Guess the Ethnicity

[Preno]

This might be fun if enough people participate.

The title is kinda self-explanatory - someone posts a picture associated in some way with an ethnicity/nationality, whoever guesses it correctly continues. You can post pretty much anything you like: tools, art, people, food, ... if you can link to it without giving it away, even audio/video. Maybe don't make it language-based, since we already had a "guess the language" thread at IIDB (anyone up for a new round?).

Repetition is okay, as long as the clues are different enough. I would say no googling, but it's going to be difficult to google for items on pictures anyway, so I guess no googling unless everyone's stuck or something.

Let's begin:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Shaman.jpg

[Autodidact]

Turkish? *has no idea why she said that*

[Preno]

Nope.

[premjan]

The shoes look West Asian vaguely. But they could be an Elizabethan jester's. Maybe Chinese?

[dug_down_deep]

For some reason, to me it looks Scandinavian. Am I warm or cold?

[Preno]

Warm.

[premjan]

German?

[Preno]

Too warm, you need to go somewhere colder.

A more telling picture:
http://www.folklore.ee/Folklore/vol13/pics/e19.gif

[Autodidact]

O.K., Finnish. Or Lapp.

[praying]

Holland

[praying]

Iceland

[praying]

Ohh ohh I know Alaska, I can see it form my house ;)

[Preno]

O.K., Finnish. Or Lapp.Correct, it's a Sámi ("Lappish", although this is now considered derogatory) shaman's drum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rune_drum). You go.

[SteveF]

Good idea this. They look like Reindeers or something on there. So, Siberia.

[SteveF]

Oh. Too late.

[Preno]

Oh. Too late.Good guess, though, Siberian drums supposedly have similar designs.

[Autodidact]

Go for it:

http://gallery.beardcommunity.com/albums/uploads11/ainu_yasli_adam.jpg

[premjan]

Ainu I think.

[Autodidact]

Curse you, premjan. Take it. I challenge anyone to beat premjan's record for speed.

[premjan]

http://www.survival-international.org/lib/img/gallery/Image_Galleries/jarawa/news/JARAWA37_news.jpg

[SteveF]

Andaman Islands?

[Autodidact]

Cape Verde?

[muon]

Andaman Islands was my first choice as well.

[Goldie]

Haitian?

[premjan]

Yes, Andamanese (Jarawa). Go SteveF.

[SteveF]

Well googling for this group, the first piccie I found is this one. I think it's going to be rather hard to get from this example, so if we're having no success then I'll provide another (clearer IMO) example

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk186/geosteve/quiz.jpg

[Preno]

Ok, I remember this exact picture, so I'm gonna let others guess.

[SteveF]

Ok, I remember this exact picture, so I'm gonna let others guess.

Heh! Given our recent conversations, I thought you might have a good idea about this one. When I first saw the photo it didn't really fit my pre-concieved notions, although the more I look at it, the clearer it becomes (I think).

[Sarpedon]

Those look like Maple leaves, so I'll guess Canadian

[premjan]

There are grapes maybe on the maple? Someone from Southern/Eastern Europe or West/Central Asia is my guess.

[muon]

How about Ossetian?

[Sarpedon]

haha, I suck at the plant identifying

[premjan]

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ART/ART203/grape-leaf-fern_~VEN093.jpg
Grape leaves do look like maple a bit.
http://www.photoseek.com/03MI-G0011-MapleLeaf.jpg

[The 800# Gorilla]

Greek?

[Matty]

hey we have vines in canada you know. some decent Canuck wines out there beliee it or not. Check out Pelle Island vineyards for a very nice example.

anyway, she could be from anywhere but on vacation :)
Counting the vines as a red herring, and lking at facial aspects i'd say Icelandic, but i'm crap at this sort of thing.

[nygreenguy]

Italian!

[Brother Daniel]

One of the until-recently-Yugoslavian places, maybe?

[Matty]

Northern Italy is a good call too i guess.

[SteveF]

premjan is the closest so far but not correct.

[Brother Daniel]

"Southern or Eastern Europe, or Western or Central Asia" is a HUGE bit of turf. Is this really incorrect, or just not specific enough to win the prize?

[Autodidact]

Polish?

[premjan]

Ukraine?

[muon]

Hungarian.

[Teshi]

Georgian.

[SteveF]

Ok, here's another photo of this group:

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/4336/14042/f/60076-Uighur-Kids-0.jpg

[Monad]

My guess would have been Uighar from the first photo esp

[premjan]

Makes sense, Central Asians are supposed to be ancestral to both Europeans and East (and South) Asians.

[SteveF]

That's correct!

[Preno]

UigharAlmost correct.

[SteveF]

If anyone is interested, I got the photo of the girl from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

[Monad]

Makes sense, Central Asians are supposed to be ancestral to both Europeans and East (and South) Asians.

That was my thinking too

[Monad]

UigharAlmost correct.

gah - the "a" was a typo - 'twas meant to be Uighur - I plea dyslexia :) (since as usual I didn't even notice my error)

[premjan]

China has control over Asian headwaters and Central Asian aboriginals.

[Monad]

Preno will probably get this straight away

http://www.fingermarks.co.uk/gifs/tribesman.jpg

[Preno]

Not really, but going by the reindeer on his headwear and the lack of slanty-eyes, I'd guess it might be a member of some Uralic ethnic (Samoyed?) or a non-Inuit native of Canada/Alaska.

[Autodidact]

Inuit?

[SteveF]

Possibly Sami.

[muon]

Yakut. Maybe Evenk.

[Monad]

All nope so far - some close-ish - but this one is a bit more interesting

[Teshi]

Tuvan?

[Monad]

Nope - very different language group (clue)

[Teshi]

How about Haida? That's a pretty different language group :D

[Monad]

Warm (depending on your perspective on some issues)

[ravenscape]

Evenk?

eta: oops, was guessed earlier.

[Teshi]

Heh. Tlingit?

[Monad]

hehe - warmer

[ravenscape]

Chilkat?

[Monad]

Pretty much same as Tlingit no?

[ravenscape]

very close, I think

[Monad]

This is hard because if I give any more clues about how you are warm and how you are not it would give it away.

[Preno]

Hahaha, ok, I was gonna guess Ket or Yukaghir, but it must be Ket.

[Monad]

Well done - knew you'd get it - I gave too much away when I said the clue was "different language group" - geographically people were closer with the Asian/Siberians but not in terms of ethnicity and language - Ket is as rare if not rarer than Haida I think these days but is interesting because a case has recently been made for it to be part of the Na-Dene language group which may make the Ket a relic of the people's who speak Na-Dene and crossed over to the Americas (whether or not Haida is, is another controversy).

[Preno]

I was wondering at the start why you thought I was gonna guess it... how about this one:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04zjaBu09u9m9/610x.jpg

This may be too easy for some, I dunno.

[SteveF]

edit - just added another but will wait till after preno's

[alien billie]

Haven't got a clue about the answer, but am I the only one who thinks that the banner on the left looks like a Cock-for-Christ?

[muon]

Sorbian? Just because.

[Brother Daniel]

Trans-Dnestrian? (sp?)

[Preno]

Sorbian? Just because.Correct, it's the Sorbian Easter ride.

[SteveF]

Ok, here we go with my earlier one. Not too tricky I don't think:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1146/975807518_602a3b122b.jpg

[premjan]

Looks like Kalash to me.

[muon]

I agree. Kalash or Nuristani at least.

[muon]

Here's one for you ...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2879568193_74bc7e8a87.jpg?v=0

[Teshi]

Bavarian. (Which is a total guess based on the fact that she looks kinda like my great aunt)

[SteveF]

premjan and muon both correct for mine. As I said, not too hard that one.

[muon]

Was my post too hard? Here's another clue.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2882627176_90d134f6fb.jpg?v=0

[Teshi]

Mobius? German?

[Preno]

I'm guessing that's the flag, but I don't think I've ever seen it.

[premjan]

Metis is blue (and apparently red as well).

[muon]

We have a winner! Metis it is. How did you know that one, Premjan?

[premjan]

I'm sorry after you gave a clue, I googled it. As I cheated you can confer the prize on someone else.

[dug_down_deep]

If googling's not allowed, those of us without encyclopedic knowledge will not be having much fun.

[SteveF]

I've been good and not googled. Which means that some I've been ok with. On the other hand, some of the recent ones have been totally beyond me.

[Preno]

Well, I think it would make more sense not to google, since this can make it too easy (like now), but if everyone seems to be stumped why not. Anyway, just go, someone.

[Teshi]

I don't think this one is too hard, since they're in national costume...

http://www.ozturkler.com/data/0007/images/117.jpg

[Preno]

Dunno, I'll try Armenian.

[Teshi]

nope

[SteveF]

Azeri?

[muon]

Romanian?

[Teshi]

some of 'em live in Romania, but nope

[SteveF]

Roma?

[dug_down_deep]

Croatian, was my guess. Even before I googled. (Which told me nothing, btw.)

[premjan]

Croats do wear hats sort of like those.

[Brother Daniel]

Ok, I'll say Magyar. Fair number of those in Romania.

[premjan]

I think the Magyar constumes are more colorful.

[Ray Moscow]

I don't think this one is too hard, since they're in national costume...

http://www.ozturkler.com/data/0007/images/117.jpg

I think I've seen these in an "ethnic" dance show in Moscow, so I'm guessing it's FSU but can't remember where.

So I'll guess Azerbaijan.

[Teshi]

Warmer, but no dice yet.

I may have thought this one was easier than it is, since I've been there.

[dug_down_deep]

Chechen?

[Matty]

Could it be the number one exporter of potassium, the Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan?


A more serious guess would be Hungarian?

[premjan]

Poland I think.

[Ray Moscow]

Look at the people. Could be Armenian, Georgian, etc.

Kazakhs look like Western Chinese (and are probably closely related).

[Preno]

No, they don't look very Central Asian, so they're probably not Kazakhs (I'm assuming by "Western Chinese" Ray means the Uyghur, which are Turkic like the Kazakhs, although they are more closely related to Uzbeks). If they're not Armenian, my next guess would be Georgian, too.

[Teshi]

Here, I'll give you another image of the same group. Couple clues in this picture should help narrow it down.

http://aboutkazan.com/images/kazan-russia-tatars-people-photos-1.jpg

And an extra super-big hint for any poetry lovers:

http://relationsmedia.photographie.com/magazine/agenda/106639/img/upload/Anna_Akhmatova_1924-M_4712F.jpg

[SteveF]

Albanians?

[Matty]

Look at the people. Could be Armenian, Georgian, etc.

Kazakhs look like Western Chinese (and are probably closely related).

Borat doesnt. :D

[premjan]

OK Tatar.

[Teshi]

Right on, premjan.

[muon]

I'll try Turkish, but not because I really believe it ...

[SteveF]

Ah yes, Tatar is a good call I reckon.

edit - i see premjan was correct. Apparently this is the poet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Akhmatova

[premjan]

You can have my turn.

[Brother Daniel]

Borat doesnt. :D
Plenty of ethnic Russians in Kazakhstan. Maybe Borat is (pretends to be) one of them. :D

[Autodidact]

Since I am too ignorant to ever get a turn legitimately, I'll accept premjan's kind offer. This image has lots of data for you geographically knowledgeable players:

[Ray Moscow]

Look at the people. Could be Armenian, Georgian, etc.

Kazakhs look like Western Chinese (and are probably closely related).

Borat doesnt. :D

I suppose Jewish guys from England are an exception.

I used to go to Kazakhstan regularly. It's not a bad place.

[Matty]

Since I am too ignorant to ever get a turn legitimately, I'll accept premjan's kind offer. This image has lots of data for you geographically knowledgeable players:

Turkish?

[Brother Daniel]

Nepali?

[Preno]

Don't think so, these are Muslims.

[premjan]

They from the Indian subcontinent - Bori Muslims?

[Brother Daniel]

Don't think so, these are Muslims.
I was working with the hypothesis that Auto was trying to throw us off with people who look like they're probably Muslims. Silly idea, I know.

[Pan Narrans]

Kurdish?

[Autodidact]

Pans has it. I'm pleased to have stumped the board for 12 hours. The knowledge base around here compares favorable to the old IIDB.

[Pan Narrans]

O damn, now I have to think of a new one...

I'll make it easy on you:

[Preno]

Persian?

[Pan Narrans]

Nope

[Ray Moscow]

Well, the dishes look Georgian, even though the wall decoration looks a bit Islamic.

Pretty girl, wherever she's from.

[SteveF]

Well, the thing in her left hand looks like a tagine, so I'll say she's Moroccan. Even though I'm not convinced she looks all that Moroccan.

[premjan]

Kashmiri?

[Pan Narrans]

SteveF's got it.

[Autodidact]

Algerian?

[SteveF]

Plenty of clues here:

http://www.davidsanger.com/images/bolivia/3-104-12.bolivianwoman.y.jpg

[Teshi]

Quechua?

[Matty]

Mayan?

[SteveF]

Nope and nope

[Matty]

Peruvian

[Lanakila]

Aymara?

[SteveF]

Yep, Aymara!

Your turn.

[Lanakila]

Who me? I'm new to this game and not good. Might be a minute or so.

[Lanakila]

This one is too easy.

[Brother Daniel]

Samoan?

[Teshi]

Hawai'ian?

[Teshi]

Yep, Aymara!

Your turn.

That's Lake Titicaca in the background, right?

[SteveF]

Yep, Aymara!

Your turn.

That's Lake Titicaca in the background, right?

Yeah.

[muon]

Maori

[Autodidact]

Australian aborigine?

[damian]

http://souljonz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/blackface_nocap.jpg

eta don't go with your gut because this one is actually pretty tricky.

[d-_-b]

wigro

[Autodidact]

Jewish

[premjan]

Haitian?

[damian]

you're getting warmer.

[premjan]

American I guess.

[clete]

I think that man might actually be caucasian.

[damian]

I think that man might actually be caucasian.

oh man, good spot. the lips probably gave it away.

[Autodidact]

And Jewish!

[Brother Daniel]

the lips probably gave it away.
Not to mention the lower eyelids.

[Lanakila]

Samoan?
Samoan was Right. Brother Daniel you are next.

[Ray Moscow]

the lips probably gave it away.
Not to mention the lower eyelids.

Al Jolson was ...?

[clete]

the lips probably gave it away.
Not to mention the lower eyelids.

Al Jolson was ...?
Kenyan?

[Teshi]

Al Jolson was ...?

Lithuanian, right?

[Brother Daniel]

Someone else want to take my turn?

[muon]

OK, try this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2897402080_7e11da0d3d.jpg?v=0

[Matty]

druidic if there is such a thing.

[muon]

Predates the original druids by thousands of years ... and of course that's not an ethnicity.

[Teshi]

Argh, I know where that thing is, but I don't know who put it there. Cornish?

[Teshi]

Through google-fu I now know. But I won't tell - wouldn't be fair :D

[Matty]

Argh, I know where that thing is, but I don't know who put it there. Cornish?

you could well be right. its a fertility thing right?

i should fucking know this, i'm from cornwall. i think there is something similar on dartmooor too which would make it bronze age something or other. celts~?
i suck at history. You can tell i dropped it age 13 cant you.

[muon]

In fact Cornish was what I was looking for. The term is an anachronism as far as the people who made this object, but on the other hand it's uniquely part of the modern Cornish landscape.

Teshi gets the win.

[Teshi]

Rock on.

It's a Bell-Beaker artifact, right?

Okay, I'll post a new one. I took these photos myself.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/effing_dogooder/Picture049.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/effing_dogooder/Picture060.jpg

[Preno]

No idea.

[Autodidact]

That looks like Anasazi to me. In fact, it looks like Northern New Mexico.

[Autodidact]

Teshi? Did you forget us?

[Teshi]

Um, yes.

Sorry.

Autodidact, you're correct. It's at Bandelier.

[Autodidact]

I didn't suddenly get smarter, I've been there. (I live in Colorado.)

O.K., this picture has LOTS of info in it, and I'm sure you all will get it quick:

[premjan]

Er, it's labeled.

[Teshi]

Ha, I'm guessing it's a young Berber woman in Tunisia :D

[Autodidact]

O.K. shut up, I blew that and you caught it before I edited. O.K. please hang out while I wrack my brain for some other obscure ethnic group. Please stay tuned.

[Autodidact]

Alright then, try this. Darn, now I can never do the Berbers.

[Teshi]

Hee hee hee.

Amish?

[praying]

Hee hee hee.

Amish?

Nope there is carpet in the picture.

[Teshi]

Ooh, good point.

Pennsylvania Dutch? Some of them are not so strict.

[premjan]

Mennonite?

[Autodidact]

Hint: Wrong continent.

[Autodidact]

More:

[Autodidact]

Does this help?

[Autodidact]

Not that anyone's listening, but it's Basque.

[Preno]

Well, I certainly wouldn't have guessed that. How about something a bit different:

http://www.uelenart.com/prints-e/previews2/04_eines_lubam.jpg

[Preno]

No guesses? How about now:

http://www.eth.mpg.de/research/ssc/images/ssc-image-02.jpg

[premjan]

The first picture's URL gives it away.

[Preno]

Well, yeah, if you know the village, it does, but I'm assuming most people don't. And if they do, they'd probably guess it anyway. Also I'm lazy.

[muon]

Inuit?

[Teshi]

Siberian Inuits?

[Lanakila]

Tibetians?

[premjan]

Hint: it is one of those places that Palin can nearly see from Alaska.

[SteveF]

Koryaks?

[Teshi]

Hint: it is one of those places that Palin can nearly see from Alaska.

Chukchi?

[premjan]

http://www.uelenart.com/english3.htm
Sorry to let the cat out of the bag. I did google this.

[Preno]

Yes, Chukchi, Teshi's turn. (Although the Koryaks are closely related.)

[Teshi]

Well, crap, now I have to come up with something challenging but not ridiculous.

Okay, here goes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/effing_dogooder/CIMG1445.jpg

Gonna require a pretty specific answer on this one :D

[premjan]

Uygur?

[praying]

Hey that's my Mom and Dad!

[praying]

Well, crap, now I have to come up with something challenging but not ridiculous.

Okay, here goes:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_nJ7sjHF0_xU/RtFyas6BoXI/AAAAAAAAAK0/kg5ohaPIWn8/CIMG1445.JPG

Gonna require a pretty specific answer on this one :D

The big red X is from Microsoft!! :D

[Preno]

I'll guess Indonesian.

[SteveF]

I can't see any pic....

[Autodidact]

On my monitor they look like the invisible people from Nowhere Land.

[premjan]

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_nJ7sjHF0_xU/RtFyas6BoXI/AAAAAAAAAK0/kg5ohaPIWn8/CIMG1445.JPG
Sort of Ladakhi I think.

[Teshi]

Heh. Put it on Photobucket. Better?

None of y'all are right yet :D

[Autodidact]

Mongolian?

[Teshi]

nope nope.

[premjan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/effing_dogooder/CIMG1445.jpg

[Autodidact]

Hmong?

[muon]

Manchu?

[Teshi]

Hmong?

Yes. Flower Hmong, specifically.

Your turn!

[Autodidact]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5d/Parayar_School_Children.jpg/800px-Parayar_School_Children.jpg

[muon]

Tamil

[premjan]

Looks like my hometown.

[Autodidact]

Wow, muon, right. And go.

[muon]

Happy people in festive traditional dress. How boring.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2941441793_4b14f21cd7.jpg?v=0

[Monad]

Wow, muon, right. And go.

Well sort of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parayar

http://www.devendrakulam.org/uploads/Who%20are%20the%20Paraiyars.htm

Origins of the word Pariah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah

[Autodidact]

The picture is from Parayar, but the group is Tamil, or so said the caption when I stole it.

[premjan]

There's nothing to remark those children as parayar rather than just Tamil.

[Monad]

The picture is from Parayar, but the group is Tamil, or so said the caption when I stole it.

They are from Rajapalayam which is in the Tamil Nadu state in India, Parayar is not a place but a social group based on caste status. The Parayars are a distinct social group with it's own history and traditions (as the second article I linked to goes into). The complication as I see it is what makes their social group distinct is the Indian caste system and centuries of "outcast" or "untouchable" status. So technically one may say they are Tamils by virtue of geography but socially and culturally they are distinct and would probably see themselves that way too (though note that might take different forms depending on their political views as much as anything as the fight against the caste system is also something that has long traditions). Whether that constitutes an ethnic difference I can't say - it's not an easy question - so in that sense I felt the answer was probably right enough (hence the "sort of").

[muon]

Happy people in festive traditional dress. How boring.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2941441793_4b14f21cd7.jpg?v=0

Anyone? Bueller?

[HAMMER]

Korean, surely korean

[Zelda]

Japanese

[muon]

Not Korean or Japanese. Very interesting that you thought that, though. You're going to be really surprised.

[Zelda]

Not Korean or Japanese. Very interesting that you thought that, though. You're going to be really surprised.

Well I can't wait to see what it is then.:D

[muon]

Head west a ways ...

[HAMMER]

Hawaiians?

[Esocyn]

Er, Mongolian?

[Preno]

Not Korean or Japanese. Very interesting that you thought that, though. You're going to be really surprised.
Head west a ways ...I actually thought Korean at first, too, but going by your hints, could they be Kalmyk?

[Jet Black]

walrusmen!

[muon]

Not Korean or Japanese. Very interesting that you thought that, though. You're going to be really surprised.
Head west a ways ...I actually thought Korean at first, too, but going by your hints, could they be Kalmyk?

Wow, you got that from "head west a ways"? Kalmyk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyks) it is---the only Buddhist territory in Europe.

[Preno]

I mostly guessed it from "you're going to be really surprised" (which I was when I heard about them).

This one may be too non-specific, I might post another one after a few guesses:

http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq92/Preno_cz/ethn1.jpg

[SteveF]

Bedouin?

[Preno]

Nope.

[muon]

Berber?

[premjan]

Berber? ETA - oops beaten to it.

[Autodidact]

Roma?

[SteveF]

Assyrian?

[Preno]

That was quick, SteveF got it.

[premjan]

Oops hit on it by accident - Syriac.

[SteveF]

That was quick, SteveF got it.

Well, barely educated guesswork is bound to strike lucky every once in a while.

[SteveF]

Ok, here is another:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk186/geosteve/piccie.jpg