The best star trek captain?

[nygreenguy]

Kirk?

Picard?

Janeway?

Archer?

Who do you like, and why?

I, personally, like Picard. Hes french, thats cool. HE was assimilated by the borg, thats fucking awesome. He doesnt screw around with women all the time. He seems to have a better handle on his crew.

However, kirk could kick his ass.

[Ray Moscow]

OK, there used to be competing lists of 100 reasons why either Kirk or Picard was better. Someone is bound to still have them.

My favourite for Kirk:

Three words: Flying Drop Kick!

[ravenscape]

Sisko. DS9 was my favorite of the later ST's, too. I loved the depth of Sisko's background and the connection to family. I loved that he'd lose his temper and screw up occasionally, too.

[Ray Moscow]

OK, here's a Kirk list (http://www.duke.edu/web/DRAGO/humor/trek/kirk-vs-picard.html).

And a Picard list (http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/seance/134/lists/list17.html).

I'm slightly in favour of Picard. He's tough and smart, but he's unassuming about it.

[Matty]

Piccard by a country mile.

Kirk was basically a lycra clad clueless wanker, spock was the one with the stones in that crew.

Two very pertinent points from that list:

Piccard never wore gray pajamas on the bridge.
Piccard would have figured out that "V'ger" thing in about five minutes.

True.

[Ray Moscow]

Janeway turned out to be the toughest ST captain: she defeated the Borg, the Scorpion transdimensional aliens, and Kremin time lords and all sorts of other badass threats, all on her own with just a small ship and crew.

However, with neither the flying leg kick nor the Vulcan nerve pinch in her arsenal, I think she's never going to reach the top of the polls.

[VenDexter]

Definitely Picard.

He seemed to fit the part of a Captain much better than any of the others.

Also, Picard was the sexiest of the captains. His voice, his demeanor, everything about him was sexy. Scott Bakula is certainly not hard to look at but Patrick Stewart wins hands down.

[Matty]

At the risk of a slight derail, Any of you ever see Dad Savage? .
I enjoyed that bit of Stewart portrayal too. Bit of a step away from a starship captain to a tulip growing gangster but still damn well done.

[Worldtraveller]

I can't believe you left off Sisko.

Picard is first, Sisko second, IMO. I'm afraid to admit it, but the more I see Enterprise, the more I like it, and Archer is starting to grow on me. I like the continuity, the crew is a good mix (although the vulcan, who in spite of being hot, can be much more irritating than spock ever was), and the Enterprise is consistently outclassed by lots of other vessels.

[Ray Moscow]

Sisko was a good character. I particularly liked the tenderness between him and his son.

However, I thought Avery Brooks held back his badass side too much -- best seen in his earlier role as Hawk in the Spencer for Hire series. He needed to go "Hawk" on the baddies now and then.

[Hookpunch]

It has got to be Jim "space booty" Kirk, the only captain to ever have his way with the Orion Slave Girls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_(Star_Trek)

although Pike might have had his way with the green skinned babes too, but he isn't part of the poll.

[Tartantyco]

-Now, I like TNG much better but damnit;

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1132/1199659277_d767ffa987.jpg
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/09/shatnerBBC_434x700.jpg

-You can't beat that, you just can't.

[Goldie]

I've only ever watched the old Star Trek. I used to piss of my brothers while making fun of Mr. Drama, Captain Kirk.

I DID like the campiness of it all.
So Kirk it is. :)

[Hookpunch]

Okay just consider this,

would you rather want to be flute playing, earl grey tea drinking , getting pyscho analyzed by the woman with the weird American accent Jean Luc Picard?

or

two fisted, drop kicking , tugging on your boot after a romp with that episode's hottie guest star James T. Kirk?

[Matty]

heheh, well if you put it like that..
Did Kirk ever slip Uhura one or was it just alien booty?


One line from Shatner which killed me, regarding the outing of Walter Koenig -Checkov IIRC.

well of course we always suspected he was gay but the one thing that really convinced us was when he kept wanting to set his phaser to "fabulous"

[judanne]

LOL! It's gotta be Kirk. He's a rogue, and I like that in a starship captain :D

[nygreenguy]

I can't believe you left off Sisko.

Picard is first, Sisko second, IMO. I'm afraid to admit it, but the more I see Enterprise, the more I like it, and Archer is starting to grow on me. I like the continuity, the crew is a good mix (although the vulcan, who in spite of being hot, can be much more irritating than spock ever was), and the Enterprise is consistently outclassed by lots of other vessels.

For one, I dont really consider the commanding officer of a space station to be a captain, in every traditional sense of the word. Yes, he was a captain of the defiant, but that was minor and honestly not worth mentioning.


I did like archer. HE has a rough demeanor, not the refined UFOP type. I think I only like him because of the prequel nature of the series. I was sad its time was cut short.



Janeway was tough as nails. She also never had the federation to back her up and threw together some of her crew in the first mission. Although she fought the borg, picard BECAME borg and walked away.

After all: http://picard.ytmnd.com/

[laughing dog]

Ah, Captain "Lead with my dick" Kirk. He got more crew members killed through sheer stupidity. If he was the best the Federation had to offer, it is amazing the Federation could have defeated anyone.

[nygreenguy]

Okay just consider this,

would you rather want to be flute playing, earl grey tea drinking , getting pyscho analyzed by the woman with the weird American accent Jean Luc Picard?

or

two fisted, drop kicking , tugging on your boot after a romp with that episode's hottie guest star James T. Kirk?


I love the flute and Earl Grey.....

[Goldie]

lol...
I stood up and clapped when the original skit played on SNL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihsSmJNsDX8

[Rhaedas]

I wouldn't rate Kirk as high as the others if you used just the series/films...but if you included the much deeper character throughout the various ST novels...Kirk is the role model captain, no doubt at all.

But really, they all have their own characteristics that make them excellent leaders. It's not an easy choice for a Trekkie to make. It's as bad as asking which Enterprise is the "best".

(well, unless you include Riker's modified one in "All Good Things..." I mean...damn. :D)

[Hookpunch]

heheh, well if you put it like that..
Did Kirk ever slip Uhura one or was it just alien booty?

-Checkov IIRC.

Are you kidding, Uhura knew better, old Kirk was constantly in McCoy's office getting those spray things in the ass for extra-terrestrial STDs.

He did however give her the first interracial kiss on television.

[nygreenguy]

I wouldn't rate Kirk as high as the others if you used just the series/films...but if you included the much deeper character throughout the various ST novels...Kirk is the role model captain, no doubt at all.

But really, they all have their own characteristics that make them excellent leaders. It's not an easy choice for a Trekkie to make. It's as bad as asking which Enterprise is the "best".

(well, unless you include Riker's modified one in "All Good Things..." I mean...damn. :D)

Or the trans-warp voyager!

But im a huge trekkie and can make a decision. I also do like the enterprise d the best. :)

[Tartantyco]

Ah, Captain "Lead with my dick" Kirk. He got more crew members killed through sheer stupidity. If he was the best the Federation had to offer, it is amazing the Federation could have defeated anyone.

-It always amuses me when another Captain took charge of the Enterprise in TNG, he turned out to be completely incompetent. The Federation is this awesome power in the universe but every captain sucks ass. <This does not make sense.

[umop apisdn w,I]

Kirk all the way, baby.

I mean, can you imagine how boring Futurama would be if Zap Brannigan was a spoof of Picard? It just wouldn't work...

Same with Galaxy Quest.

[Hookpunch]

One line from Shatner which killed me, regarding the outing of Walter Koenig -Checkov IIRC.

Are you sure Koenig is gay? I know Takei is, but this is the first I have hear about Koenig.

[nygreenguy]

Are you sure Koenig is gay? I know Takei is, but this is the first I have hear about Koenig.

Russians are not gay, there just foreign.

[kiwimac]

Anyone but Janeway.

[umop apisdn w,I]

Koenig is not gay as far as I know. He's been happily married for over 40 years (not that that is necessarily proof). In fact, for those who remember his appearance in Babylon 5 as Alfred Bester - the actor who played his partner in a couple of episodes is Koenig's real-life wife, Judy Levitt.

I definitely think the quote is talking about George Takei. In fact a quick Google shows lots of entertainment news sites and gay sites talking about Takei coming out of the closet and including that quote from Shatner about him...

[Monad]

I've just been watching the complete Voyager series on DVD and it confirmed my feeling that overall it's my favourite series even though I also love TNG. I think it brought back some of the excitement and action of the original series and Janeway is fantastic. I do like Picard but I think she has the edge - she's just so determined and wily but also can be warm and tender and her interactions with Seven throughout her development brought a tear to my eye on several occasions.

[Monad]

HE was assimilated by the borg, thats fucking awesome.

Don't forget Janeway was also assimilated and unlike Picard she actually chose to be assimilated to defeat them from within.

[Ray Moscow]

Koenig is not gay as far as I know. He's been happily married for over 40 years (not that that is necessarily proof). In fact, for those who remember his appearance in Babylon 5 as Alfred Bester - the actor who played his partner in a couple of episodes is Koenig's real-life wife, Judy Levitt.

I definitely think the quote is talking about George Takei. In fact a quick Google shows lots of entertainment news sites and gay sites talking about Takei coming out of the closet and including that quote from Shatner about him...

I think so, too.

[Lanakila]

Piccard all the way. Kirk was too busy screwing alien chicks to be much of a leader of his crew. Janeway's voice is just too irritating and grating to even be considered. I know the OP was about best captains but I gave my favorite instead of the best. Patrick Stewart is still a very good looking sexy man, and Shatner is not imho.

[Ray Moscow]

Don't forget Janeway was also assimilated and unlike Picard she actually chose to be assimilated to defeat them from within.

Like I said earlier, Janeway was actually the toughest of the ST captains. If they had beefed up her fighting abilities, she might have rivalled even Kirk in popularity.

[Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ]

Don't forget Janeway was also assimilated and unlike Picard she actually chose to be assimilated to defeat them from within.

*cough*Picard's plan*cough*

[Hookpunch]

Okay let's get down to it.

Kirk beat up Ricardo Montalban, the pecs that walked like a man.

Picard beat up.....well he usually asked them politely to leave the galaxy.

[His Noodly Appendage]

Malcolm Reynolds :p

[Matty]

Are you sure Koenig is gay? I know Takei is, but this is the first I have hear about Koenig.

ah maybe i mixed them up, i could have sworn it was checkov, but it was the fabulous bit i actually clearly remembered. i'll check.


and i gotta admit, I've changed my mind, the way you guys tell it it really has to be Kirk that is the official dogs bollocks.

Being willing and able to sacrifice those red shirted dudes by the dozen just so you can tap some green scaly ass whilst kicking the crap out of jealous alien husband guy is indeed pretty awesome, and something we as a junior spacefaring race should aspire to.


I still want a holodeck though. And i would give Deanna one.

[Monad]

*cough*Picard's plan*cough*

I don't recall Picard deliberately getting himself assimilated in "Best of both worlds". He did manage to help get himself out of it when recaptured.

[Monad]

And i would give Deanna one.

Beverly Crusher crush here :)

[Hookpunch]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

[Ray Moscow]

I don't recall Picard deliberately getting himself assimilated in "Best of both worlds". He did manage to help get himself out of it when recaptured.

Plus, Picard cried about it in a later episode.

Kirk would never cry, except perhaps in murderous rage.

[Hookpunch]

Plus, Picard cried about it in a later episode.

Kirk would never cry, except perhaps in murderous rage.

Didn't he cry when Edith Keeler died in City on the Edge of Forever?

But that was probably because he missed out on the customary bedding of the guest star. I might cry if I didn't get to shag a young Joan Collins too.

[Monad]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

I was very fond of Laren Ro too. Never fancied Tasha - too ice maideny for me (but did you see her RedShoe Diaries episode??). On the other hand the sexiest woman in Voyager was not 7 but B’Elanna Torres for me.

[Hookpunch]

I was very fond of Laren Ro too. Never fancied Tasha - too ice maideny for me (but did you see her RedShoe Diaries episode??). On the other hand the sexiest woman in Voyager was not 7 but B’Elanna Torres for me.


I agree there, I thought she was more attractive the Jery Ryan. On DS9 I though Chase Masterson was sweet.

[DMB]

I am half in love with Patrick Stewart. I remember him from his stage days back whenever at the Royal Shakespeare Theatre. He has been playing there quite recently, but all the seats got sold out almost overnight, no doubt to trekkies.

[Ray Moscow]

I am half in love with Patrick Stewart. I remember him from his stage days back whenever at the Royal Shakespeare Theatre. He has been playing there quite recently, but all the seats got sold out almost overnight, no doubt to trekkies.

Yeah, I tried to get tickets to see him in MacBeth earlier this year, but they were sold out. It's doing well on Broadway now, too.

He's a great actor.

[Dlx2]

On one hand,

http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_expendability_preview.jpg

On the other hand,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6oUz1v17Uo

[Gojira]

Well, if it has got to be a Fed, then J.Tiberius wins hands down.

But not in the same league as Kang, from "Day of the Dove" :cool:

[nygreenguy]

Like I said earlier, Janeway was actually the toughest of the ST captains. If they had beefed up her fighting abilities, she might have rivalled even Kirk in popularity.


Well, i just downloaded all 7 seasons, so sadly i havent seen all of them.

[Jest2Ask]

DlX2 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?

[Dlx2]

Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

Not mine, but awesome nonetheless, yeah?

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?

Fuck if I know. I'm a TOS kinda guy.

[Tartantyco]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

http://img.silverbulletcomics.com/~jonencar/Michelle%20Forbes.jpg
WANT MOAR!

[ravenscape]

DlX2 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?
That was not from a specific episode. It was just for fun, and it's been showed at many a convention.

[Athene]

Okay just consider this,

would you rather want to be flute playing, earl grey tea drinking , getting pyscho analyzed by the woman with the weird American accent Jean Luc Picard?

or

two fisted, drop kicking , tugging on your boot after a romp with that episode's hottie guest star James T. Kirk?

Deanna Troi (spelling) is English, that was an English accent she had :p

[Athene]

It has to be Picard for me, he has the voice, the intelligence, the military bearing.

[Hedwig]

Picard. He could be tough when it was necessary, but he also had a little thing called finesse. Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop. The Enterprise would have been boned if Kirk had been taken in by the Borg queen.

Also, I cannot imagine Kirk being as worthy a sparring partner against Q as Picard clearly was.

[Dlx2]

Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop.

This is why ST:TOS > ST:TNG.

That and the sexual tension EVERYWHERE.

[Hookpunch]

Picard. He could be tough when it was necessary, but he also had a little thing called finesse. Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop. The Enterprise would have been boned if Kirk had been taken in by the Borg queen.

Also, I cannot imagine Kirk being as worthy a sparring partner against Q as Picard clearly was.

You forget, Kirk beat Trelane who must have been a Q, and Apollo and various other god like beings that Roddenberry like to trash.

Picard tough? Once again I have to point out, Kirk put the beat down on Ricardo Montalban, Picard couldn't beat his senior citizen brother in the vineyard.

[Dlx2]

You forget, Kirk beat Trelane who must have been a Q, and Apollo and various other god like beings that Roddenberry like to trash.

Picard tough? Once again I have to point out, Kirk put the beat down on Ricardo Montalban, Picard couldn't beat his senior citizen brother in the vineyard.

Kirk also trashed the shit out of Landru, which was essentially proto-Borg anyways.

The real question is one of "who told the prime directive to go fuck itself more often?"

Let's face it. We all know the answer. The answer is: violating the prime directive is fucking awesome.

http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_prime_directive_preview2.jpg

[slideyfoot]

Easy question for me: who was the best actor? Patrick Stewart, no contest. But then I'm not much of a trekkie, so I'm missing decades worth of geek discussion. ;)

[Hookpunch]

Easy question for me: who was the best actor? Patrick Stewart, no contest. But then I'm not much of a trekkie, so I'm missing decades worth of geek discussion. ;)

Actually when he was young Shatner seemed to have been a better actor then when he got older. If you ever see him in a couple of old Twilight Zone episodes, Nightmare at 20,000 Feet or Nick of Time, you'll be surprised that he is the same actor as the guy in TJ Hooker.

Although lately in Boston Legal he seems to have regained his acting chops.

[slideyfoot]

Actually when he was young Shatner seemed to have been a better actor then when he got older. If you ever see him in a couple of old Twilight Zone episodes, Nightmare at 20,000 Feet or Nick of Time, you'll be surprised that he is the same actor as the guy in TJ Hooker.

I like that he seems to have a sense of humour about himself, which is the main point in his favour for me. Would be interesting checking out his earlier work, but is it at all comparable with a top RSC guy like Stewart?

Though you could argue that there is a big difference between a good stage actor and someone who can be convincing on film. Personally, I tend to lean toward the opinion that if you can manage to engage an audience on the stage, without the aid of effects/music/camera angles etc, then that's a greater achievement than managing the same on film.

But on the other...other hand, equally arguable that they're different skill sets. E.g., to bring this back to martial arts (yay!), people like Bruce Lee would have been pretty terrible in, say, an RSC production of King Lear. However, on film, he had immense screen presence. Would be interesting to know if they could ever translate to the stage: I've never acted (well, except once when I was a pirate at the age of about 6 - IIRC, my role consisted of fishing and complaining about the captain :p), so no idea.

[dug_down_deep]

Best captain - Picard. Best series - TNG. No question about it for me.

[nygreenguy]

Best captain - Picard. Best series - TNG. No question about it for me.


I agree. But voyager comes in a close second for me.

DS9 is in dead last by a long shot.

[Hookpunch]

I like that he seems to have a sense of humour about himself, which is the main point in his favour for me. Would be interesting checking out his earlier work, but is it at all comparable with a top RSC guy like Stewart?


I think Shatner also started on the stage,

According to Wikipedia.

" Trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, Shatner performed at the Shakespearean Stratford Festival of Canada in Stratford, Ontario. He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great."

[Holly]

Actually, the best Star Trek captain would have been Captain Taggart, but he is not listed in the options, so I'll have to go with Kirk...

[slideyfoot]

" Trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, Shatner performed at the Shakespearean Stratford Festival of Canada in Stratford, Ontario. He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great."

That would have been fun to see! The choice of plays is interesting too, especially if he was the lead in both: I can definitely see the link between Kirk, Henry V and Tamburlaine/Timur. ;)

[DMB]

" Trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, Shatner performed at the Shakespearean Stratford Festival of Canada in Stratford, Ontario. He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great."

That would have been fun to see! The choice of plays is interesting too, especially if he was the lead in both: I can definitely see the link between Kirk, Henry V and Tamburlaine/Timur. ;)

Did he play the lead roles in Henry V and Tamburlaine?

[Ray Moscow]

All I can think of is Shatner delivering Hamlet's soliloquy:

To ------ BE, or NOT to BE -- THAT is the QUEStion ...

[slideyfoot]

Did he play the lead roles in Henry V and Tamburlaine?

Sounds like it, if the wiki is accurate (though as we all know, not exactly the most reliable source of info): "He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great

[Hookpunch]

All I can think of is Shatner delivering Hamlet's soliloquy:

To ------ BE, or NOT to BE -- THAT is the QUEStion ...

You know his early work didn't have that diction, and he seems to have lost that with his Denny Crane work on Boston Legal. I wonder if that was just something he did for the Kirk part.

[Ray Moscow]

Actually, I think Shatner is a good actor. We can make fun of him a bit for Kirk's outlandishness, but he did invent the role (AFAIK) of ST Captain after all. All others are compared to his standard.

We can forgive TJ Hooker, which we only watched to see Heather Locklear anyway. He has redeemed himself as Denny Crane anyway.

However, I don't think any of the other ST captain players compare well to Patrick Stewart as a serious actor, but it's a bit of "apples & oranges" comparison to expect them to.

[umop apisdn w,I]

All I can think of is Shatner delivering Hamlet's soliloquy:

To ------ BE, or NOT to BE -- THAT is the QUEStion ...

You know his early work didn't have that diction, and he seems to have lost that with his Denny Crane work on Boston Legal. I wonder if that was just something he did for the Kirk part.

It was.

He's said in various interviews that part of his characterisation for Kirk was that Kirk had that peculiar diction as a way of overcoming a stammer - but unfortunately people didn't realise that it was a deliberately affected character trait and thought it was simply bad acting.

[ergaster]

Has to be Kirk. The first, the best. Janeway second.

And since we're on the topic of Star Trek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfx8Nc6VKnI

:D :D

[Murdock13]

Picard was the best captain, hands down.

However, Shatner made Kirk a much-imitated icon, and Shatner can do spoken word performances.

The older stuff is pretentious, but the "Rocket Man" rendition is classic. As is the third video down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0GAjK64VZg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbv6r_tKnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eISBTBwWKeE

[Matty]

i fucking love that version of common people. awesome.

shall we be really nasty and drop Spocks Bilbo song in to the mix too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04
that is as bad as the common people is brilliant.

[Hookpunch]

BTW: If you ever need a couple of interesting reads try this

http://www.amazon.ca/City-Edge-Forever-Harlan-Ellison/dp/1565049640/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206986578&sr=8-6

Where Harlan Ellison goes on an incredible rant on Roddenberry, tells of Shatner wiping out doing wheelies in his driveway and counting his lines on the City on the Edge of Forever script while Ellison played the gracious host.

Then read Shat's Star Trek memories where he says he wiped out because he admittedly wasn't very skilled on a motorcyle, then remembers Ellison yelling a lot at him while he was there and left quickly.

Apparently Shatner and Ellison still have the feud on simmer to this day.

[Lanakila]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

How could you neglect to mention Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9? :dunno:

[Octavia]

Janeway just beats out Picard in my book. Just barely.

[Jest2Ask]

Where is Captain Sulu ... the poll was not limited to Enterprise Captains

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

[Hookpunch]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

How could you neglect to mention Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9? :dunno:

for some reason I never was too keen on Jeri Ryan, maybe because they brought her on just to sex up the show....still I can see why you think so, it is a tough call between her and Jolene Blalock on who has the hotter bod.

[slideyfoot]

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

Not that this is a reflection on how attractive she is, but: easily one of the most wooden actresses I have ever seen on TV. Always made me laugh: I don't know if it was just the role and she's brilliant elsewhere (e.g., I'm told Hayden Christensen is capable of acting, despite showing no signs of life in the awful Star Wars prequels), but she was terrible.

[Hookpunch]

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

Not that this is a reflection on how attractive she is, but: easily one of the most wooden actresses I have ever seen on TV. Always made me laugh: I don't know if it was just the role and she's brilliant elsewhere (e.g., I'm told Hayden Christensen is capable of acting, despite showing no signs of life in the awful Star Wars prequels), but she was terrible.

No arguments there, I didn't think she was that good an actress either, I wonder if not using her native accent had something to do with it. I haven't seen her in anything else.

Still though it was good to see them cast an actress that didn't fit the usual Hollywood beauty ideal.

[Ray Moscow]

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

Not that this is a reflection on how attractive she is, but: easily one of the most wooden actresses I have ever seen on TV. Always made me laugh: I don't know if it was just the role and she's brilliant elsewhere (e.g., I'm told Hayden Christensen is capable of acting, despite showing no signs of life in the awful Star Wars prequels), but she was terrible.

No arguments there, I didn't think she was that good an actress either, I wonder if not using her native accent had something to do with it. I haven't seen her in anything else.

Still though it was good to see them cast an actress that didn't fit the usual Hollywood beauty ideal.

The greater question is why Troi got to wear the boob uniform, and none of the other ST women did.

[Murdock13]

I posted the Shatner videos, so I gotta give Patrick Stewart some props for his own neat video on YouTube, from "Extras".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M

[nygreenguy]

I posted the Shatner videos, so I gotta give Patrick Stewart some props for his own neat video on YouTube, from "Extras".



That was fucking hilarious. Thank you. :notworthy:

[Rhaedas]

Where is Captain Sulu ... the poll was not limited to Enterprise Captains

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

I agree. And thanks for the links. Wow, they nailed the TOS feeling.

[nygreenguy]

Where is Captain Sulu ... the poll was not limited to Enterprise Captains



No, it was limited to those with their own tv series.

(and my personal bias to who deserves it of course)

[VenDexter]

(and my personal bias to who deserves it of course)

Pollster bias! Pollster bias! :D

[Hookpunch]

Has anyone else read about the security about the new Trek movie? The actors could only read the script under the eye of security, they were transported in covered golf carts etc....


I am thinking that statements to the contrary that Bill Shatner might indeed be in the new movie.

[nygreenguy]

Has anyone else read about the security about the new Trek movie? The actors could only read the script under the eye of security, they were transported in covered golf carts etc....


I am thinking that statements to the contrary that Bill Shatner might indeed be in the new movie.

That would be awesome.

However, i would have liked to see a voyager movie instead.

[Hookpunch]

Has anyone else read about the security about the new Trek movie? The actors could only read the script under the eye of security, they were transported in covered golf carts etc....


I am thinking that statements to the contrary that Bill Shatner might indeed be in the new movie.

That would be awesome.



And probably worth millions in box office if he is in it. I think the Captain might be making a miraculous recovery from death.

[nygreenguy]

And probably worth millions in box office if he is in it. I think the Captain might be making a miraculous recovery from death.

iirc, the movie is some sort of prequel to TOS. If so, he can do "flashbacks" or other cheesy roles. I believe Leonard Nemoy is in it as well.

[Hookpunch]

And probably worth millions in box office if he is in it. I think the Captain might be making a miraculous recovery from death.

iirc, the movie is some sort of prequel to TOS. If so, he can do "flashbacks" or other cheesy roles. I believe Leonard Nemoy is in it as well.

Yes Nimoy is in it and Shatner came out with a statement saying he is upset that he is not in it....I am thinking a little misdirection there.

[Spherical Time]

Picard, followed by Sisko. Never got invested in Archer though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfx8Nc6VKnI

:D :DThat's freaking awesome.

[JamesBannon]

My personal pick would be that Jean luc just shaves James T, but only just. I never liked Janeway as captain funnily enough.

[Seeker630]

Picard for me-------Patrick Stewart is just a class act from head to foot. I'd put Janeway a close second.

[Teshi]

I'm one of nature's plebs so I voted entirely based on whom I'd rather work for. Picard seems least likely to get all the poor nameless bastards in his crew killed.

[MrFungus420]

I did like archer. HE has a rough demeanor, not the refined UFOP type. I think I only like him because of the prequel nature of the series. I was sad its time was cut short.

I was so pissed off that they couldn't even give Enterprise the dignity to have the last episode be an episode of Enterprise. They had to make it an episode of The Next Reguritation.

Having said that, and as much as I like Archer, I have to go with James T. Kirk.

Between Kirk and Picard is no contest.

When Picard was deep in the shit and couldn't handle it, what did he do? Figure out how to bring Kirk back to save his ass...

[Gladrags]

My vote is with Jean Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart). What an attractive man.

[Niete]

no one seems to like archer :D

[Yelnik25]

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

Picard is the best. I also really like Voyager and have a soft spot for Janeway, she was a tough cookie. But she did have the better crew, Picard had Data, Geordie and a bunch of scrubs.

[Seeker630]

no one seems to like archer :D

I think with Archer the problem was that Scott Baccula didn't have time to develop the persona and character that the others did over several seasons. He was on what? One or two seasons? I also didn't think he had as good a bunch of writers behind him as some of the others. It's like the story lines just didn't flow as well as they did with Picard or Janeway, or even Kirk.

[Teshi]

Every time Archer did that brow furrow I about died giggling. I could not take Bacula seriously.

[Hookpunch]

I thought Bakula was pretty good as a captain but the series just wasn't up to par until the final season by which time it was too late.

the other problem with Bakula is that all the other actors had their Star Trek role define them, every time I saw Bakula I kept thinking of Sam Beckett from Quantum Leap (which I hope he reprises).

[Berthold]

Deanna Troi (spelling) is English, that was an English accent she had :p
Spent her childhood there. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Sirtis)