Tartantyco
03-28-2008, 10:16 PM
-He's some kind of conservative "intellectual"(I lol'd) and he wrote this article (http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/liberal-progressive-mind-control/), which a guy on another forum I frequent posted. I don't know much about this Brewton character but this article is just stupid. Strangely enough other people on the forum are like "woooo, dis es da truth." Here's my response, thrown together in a hurry:
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-Oh, this is just wrong on so many levels... I did like this one though:
Socialism, of which liberal-progressivism is the American sect, is more than control of the economy. Most importantly it is mind-control through the public education system.
-No, mind control is when you keep you child away from school so you can teach them teh holy bibul as historical fact.
The socialist European Union, and Germany specifically, provide ammunition for abrogating educational liberties.
-I think you should check that statement again, seeing as many European countries allow home schooling(But not for stupid reasons like in the USA).
The obvious answer is that home schooling does a better job, revealing the poor quality of public education.
-Wow, having focus on an individual pupil is better than putting him in an underfunded school system(*)? Where does this wisdom come from? Public education is not the problem here, the problem is with your system.
Less obvious is the desire of home-schooling parents to teach Judeo-Christian moral principles, which directly conflicts with the public school aim of teaching the secular religion of liberal-progressive-socialism. Propagating that mind-set necessitates identifying as ignorance all ideas of fixed and timeless moral principles.
"Less obvious is the desire of home-schooling parents to brainwash their children into believing things about the world that conflict with reality, which conflicts with the public school aim of teaching on a level playing field regardless of the pupil's race, culture or religion. This disgusting concept of tolerance is not what we want our children exposed to. We want them exposed to brainwashing that destroys their critical thinking skills and makes them grow up with a righteous hatred of muslims and jews and secularists and atheists and everyone else whose opinions conflict with ours."
Such was the work primarily of John Dewey, the leading liberal-progressive theoretician of the early 1900s. He taught Columbia University students that Darwinian evolution had proved that everything, including morality, was continually evolving. In such a world there can be no timeless principles of morality. Rules for social behavior are simply whatever intellectuals think they ought to be in matters of sexual orientation, sexual promiscuity, and every sort of sensual gratification.
-I'm not even going to bother with this massive strawman.
Under the impact of such schooling, the traditional family unit is no longer the bedrock of society.
-You know, there was a time when it was traditional to stone disobedient children, apostates, people who took a certain pathetic god's name in vain, etc. I think we should bring back that tradition! (What I'm trying to say, for the cerebrally impaired, is that traditions are only carried on as long as they serve the society. The above quote is trying to say that "Traditional=Right". If that is the case then there are a few more traditions I'd like to revive(After all, they must be correct): Dueling(Because it's cool) and spousal abuse(Because she deserves it). Tradition wooooh!)
There is now abundant evidence, in all parts of the nation, that public-education students are inculcated with anti-Americanism and a moral relativism that will not even condemn the Nazi Holocaust.
-Yes.. Of course there is... [Ermm]
Liberal-progressivism teaches students that there are no real differences among nations, races, and cultures, even sexes.
-No, I think that has a little bit more to do with reality. Did you notice, by the way, that the guy is preaching racism and sexism here? Or is it just "Ooooh, lee-ber-ul... Them r' evul..."!
In such a world, callow students must be conditioned to see every atrocity from the other guy's view point and to avoid all judgments of right or wrong.
-This is some epic logic right here.
Liberal-progressive-socialism is a world paradigm in which greedy capitalists become rich by grinding workers down to bare-subsistence levels of income, while forcing the workers to buy whatever products they produce, at whatever prices they elect to charge. Hence the endless harping in the New York Times about income inequality.
-Haha! This one is equally epic. Doesn't this person even know the meaning of the words he's using? And the remaining paragraphs are equally stupid.
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EDIT: Forgot the article link. (http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/liberal-progressive-mind-control/)
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-Oh, this is just wrong on so many levels... I did like this one though:
Socialism, of which liberal-progressivism is the American sect, is more than control of the economy. Most importantly it is mind-control through the public education system.
-No, mind control is when you keep you child away from school so you can teach them teh holy bibul as historical fact.
The socialist European Union, and Germany specifically, provide ammunition for abrogating educational liberties.
-I think you should check that statement again, seeing as many European countries allow home schooling(But not for stupid reasons like in the USA).
The obvious answer is that home schooling does a better job, revealing the poor quality of public education.
-Wow, having focus on an individual pupil is better than putting him in an underfunded school system(*)? Where does this wisdom come from? Public education is not the problem here, the problem is with your system.
Less obvious is the desire of home-schooling parents to teach Judeo-Christian moral principles, which directly conflicts with the public school aim of teaching the secular religion of liberal-progressive-socialism. Propagating that mind-set necessitates identifying as ignorance all ideas of fixed and timeless moral principles.
"Less obvious is the desire of home-schooling parents to brainwash their children into believing things about the world that conflict with reality, which conflicts with the public school aim of teaching on a level playing field regardless of the pupil's race, culture or religion. This disgusting concept of tolerance is not what we want our children exposed to. We want them exposed to brainwashing that destroys their critical thinking skills and makes them grow up with a righteous hatred of muslims and jews and secularists and atheists and everyone else whose opinions conflict with ours."
Such was the work primarily of John Dewey, the leading liberal-progressive theoretician of the early 1900s. He taught Columbia University students that Darwinian evolution had proved that everything, including morality, was continually evolving. In such a world there can be no timeless principles of morality. Rules for social behavior are simply whatever intellectuals think they ought to be in matters of sexual orientation, sexual promiscuity, and every sort of sensual gratification.
-I'm not even going to bother with this massive strawman.
Under the impact of such schooling, the traditional family unit is no longer the bedrock of society.
-You know, there was a time when it was traditional to stone disobedient children, apostates, people who took a certain pathetic god's name in vain, etc. I think we should bring back that tradition! (What I'm trying to say, for the cerebrally impaired, is that traditions are only carried on as long as they serve the society. The above quote is trying to say that "Traditional=Right". If that is the case then there are a few more traditions I'd like to revive(After all, they must be correct): Dueling(Because it's cool) and spousal abuse(Because she deserves it). Tradition wooooh!)
There is now abundant evidence, in all parts of the nation, that public-education students are inculcated with anti-Americanism and a moral relativism that will not even condemn the Nazi Holocaust.
-Yes.. Of course there is... [Ermm]
Liberal-progressivism teaches students that there are no real differences among nations, races, and cultures, even sexes.
-No, I think that has a little bit more to do with reality. Did you notice, by the way, that the guy is preaching racism and sexism here? Or is it just "Ooooh, lee-ber-ul... Them r' evul..."!
In such a world, callow students must be conditioned to see every atrocity from the other guy's view point and to avoid all judgments of right or wrong.
-This is some epic logic right here.
Liberal-progressive-socialism is a world paradigm in which greedy capitalists become rich by grinding workers down to bare-subsistence levels of income, while forcing the workers to buy whatever products they produce, at whatever prices they elect to charge. Hence the endless harping in the New York Times about income inequality.
-Haha! This one is equally epic. Doesn't this person even know the meaning of the words he's using? And the remaining paragraphs are equally stupid.
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EDIT: Forgot the article link. (http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/03/14/liberal-progressive-mind-control/)