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Old 02-07-2012, 06:37 AM   #1697354  /  #362
Rick DeLano
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Originally Posted by Occam's Aftershave View Post
Hey Rick, I've got another question.

Remember the Voyager 1 and 2 deep space probes? Both were launched in 1977 and have traveled well into the outer reaches of the solar system. V1 now holds the record for farthest distance from earth by a man-made object, currently almost 18,000,000,000 km from Earth. V2 is over 14,000,000,000 km away.

Their trajectories were calculated to a gnat's ass before launch, designed to use gravity boosting to help speed them on their way. To date they have shown no significant deviations.

When viewed from ground they also appear to be orbiting a stationary Earth once a day. IF the Earth was not rotating that would mean that V1 is now traveling at a speed of over 1.3 x10e6 km/sec. as it circled the planet, discounting its outward velocity.

Here's the kicker. Both spacecraft are equipped with three gyroscopes containing sensitive accelerometers. All are still functioning and have been returning solid data since launch. But neither of the data sets shows any acceleration anywhere near that required to achieve your required orbital velocity. In fact, both data sets show the completely expected acceleration from their launch through their gravity slingshots by heliocentric planets to their location today.

As a matter of fact, no deep space probe at all has detected the kind of motion your dumbass geocentric claims require.

Why is that Rick? Your bullshit about them being 'stuck in the aether' won't fly because the on-board accelerometers wouldn't be affected.

Why does all the space probe data support heliocentrism while none supports geocentrism?
Speaking of bs, Occam, how strange that you should talk about Voyager and ignore Pioneer.

As in "Pioneer anomaly":

"Radio-metric Doppler tracking data received from the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft from heliocentric distances of 20-70 AU has consistently indicated the presence of a small, anomalous, blue-shifted frequency drift uniformly changing with a rate of ˜ 6× 10^{-9} Hz/s. Ultimately, the drift was interpreted as a constant sunward deceleration of each particular spacecraft at the level of a_P = (8.74 ± 1.33)× 10^{-10} m/s^2. This apparent violation of the Newton's gravitational inverse square law has become known as the Pioneer anomaly; the nature of this anomaly remains unexplained."

Why should we discuss Voyager, which cannot possibly exhibit the anomaly exhibited by both Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11, since:

"...unlike Pioneer 10 and 11, Voyager 1 and 2 are not spin stabilized. The three-axis stabilization employed by these spacecraft requires the use of small attitude stabilization thrusters several times a day. The noise produced by unmodeled small accelerations that arise as a result of uncertainties in the magnitude and exact duration of thruster firings and possible leakage afterwards reduce the sensitivity of these spacecraft to small accelerations such that an anomalous acceleration of order 10–9 m/s2 is completely undetectable.......Next on the list was Galileo......A combined analysis of Doppler and ranging data by The Aerospace Corporation from a 113-day period beginning shortly before Galileo’s second Earth encounter (Galileo flew a complicated series of flyby orbits before it achieved a transfer orbit that took it to Jupiter) does show the presence of a possible acceleration term of the correct magnitude"

Oh, by the way....remember all those articles recently saying "the anomaly is solved"?

More bs.

"The most likely cause of the Pioneer anomaly is the anisotropic emission of on-board heat.........The main question is whether or not a statistically significant anomalous acceleration signal still remains in the residuals after the thermal recoil force has been properly accounted for. Results of this meticulous study will be published soon."

Boy is it great to see anomalies being carefully investigated, instead of obstinately ignored, as in the case of Mary's Bones.
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