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Old 03-08-2011, 03:29 AM   #1330502  /  #101
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There is much repetition in Hebrew mythology. The Egyptian exile seems to be a purposeful construction to make the Babylonian exile seem like a recurrence, in order to maintain hope.
interesting. i had thought i was the only person with that strange idea.

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ETA: Also you just undid all of western theology.
no no, "classical theism" which is apparently whatever the fuck SMS wants it to be. western theology itself is quite varied, and clearly "classical theism" must be some subset of that. clearly it's rather unrelated to the bible, which not only has a frequently (but not always) anthropomorphic god, but also his (still divine) incarnate son, who is also god. and it really doesn't get any more anthropomorphic than "actually a human being".

quotes around "classical theism" because, while it is a real set of theological ideas, i'm not entirely sure that SMS is actually using them correctly. because, as i understand it, classical theism shouldn't particular contradict the scriptures of any of the abrahamic religions.
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Lol. Just what do you think aquinas' analological predication is all about or Christian negative theology, and so on. Heck, it was one of the central topics of medieval philosophy.
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classical theism

Probably need to add that to the definition list for the debate.
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:32 AM   #1330661  /  #104
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classical theism

Probably need to add that to the definition list for the debate.
Perhaps. Or I could just go along with the atheists' delusion that theists have historically thought of God's goodness as just some superlative moral virtue possessed by God.
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:32 AM   #1330663  /  #105
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Lol. Just what do you think aquinas' analological predication is all about or Christian negative theology, and so on. Heck, it was one of the central topics of medieval philosophy.
Lol. Aquinas is the first example and founder of classical theism?
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Old 03-08-2011, 04:35 AM   #1330676  /  #106
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@perfesser sms


You may want to just source an actual definition.
From what I've read of the term, you equivocate widely.

You equivocate more widely than those theologians who keep trying to neuter their god.

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Lol. Just what do you think aquinas' analological predication is all about or Christian negative theology, and so on. Heck, it was one of the central topics of medieval philosophy.
Lol. Aquinas is the first example and founder of classical theism?
No, although he is a paradigmatic classical theist. So is Athanasius, Anselm, Augustine, Maimonides, Avicenna, Averroes, Scotus, blah blah.
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Holy shit SMS. You have your categories fucked up I think. You provided a frame, an analysis, not a fact.

ETA: Also you just undid all of western theology.
no. it's a historical fact that its conception is how i said it was and that you cannot predicate something to it.
No, it is a historical fact that the concept of the Mono-deity in Western thought is primarily an anthropometric entity which has been subject to constant revision towards a force-abstract. It is also a historical fact that characteristics have been and are constantly ascribed to it.

Dishonest moron.
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Holy shit SMS. You have your categories fucked up I think. You provided a frame, an analysis, not a fact.

ETA: Also you just undid all of western theology.
no. it's a historical fact that its conception is how i said it was and that you cannot predicate something to it.
No, it is a historical fact that the concept of the Mono-deity in Western thought is primarily an anthropometric entity which has been subject to constant revision towards a force-abstract. It is also a historical fact that characteristics have been and are constantly ascribed to it.

Dishonest moron.
What about the concept that a Mono-deity is just the ultimate answer to the collection of Poly-deities in grater and grater abstract Classes - with the largest Mono-class - conceptually able to contain lower-level classes - much the same as Sets and Set-theory ala Russell and Whitehead ?
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wait. I wrotew the op. did a mod start the thread? I haven't seen it. Granted I've been scarce but while I was around, it didn't show up.
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Just when I was going to start a 'How did Testy die" thread...
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Old 04-09-2011, 02:23 PM   #1371411  /  #115
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wait. I wrotew the op. did a mod start the thread? I haven't seen it. Granted I've been scarce but while I was around, it didn't show up.
testy, did you die?
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yes, for your sins. he's since been resurrected.

there, problem of evil: SOLVED.
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there, problem of evil: SOLVED.
Do you like me?
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I dare someone to get on a plane and murder testy in cold blood because his return to this thread is killing TR
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Testy died and his ghost paid a brief visit.
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If I drive 1.5 hours south, I can confirm his state of being. Or non-being.
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The rainbow connection lies an hour and a half south of you?

Hmmm.
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someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection.

I'm not working in an office much these days so I don't get much dorking around time on the computer. That will change in September and I'll be back in an office probably.
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