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04-20-2016, 11:17 PM   #2641064  /  #26
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Journalist James McKinley wrote for The New York Times 19 April 2016:
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A Brooklyn man who beat a transgender woman to death after he had started flirting with her was sentenced to 12 years in prison...
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He should have pled temporary insanity. Imagine, you're a guy, thinking you are making out with a woman who is responding so nicely, and then finding out it is another guy. Some guys would go berserk. Hard to tell just what someone would do when they lose their mind for a few moments...
People who go beserk to the point of beating someone to death need to be isolated from the rest of us. I would have made it permanent incarceration.
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04-20-2016, 11:30 PM   #2641072  /  #27
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nobody cares about canadia
What about Seattle, a man used the woman's locker room at the public pool, the woman called police.

Apparently he was allowed to stay, but not sure how many women will continue to bring their daughters to that public swimming pool.
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04-20-2016, 11:36 PM   #2641075  /  #28
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04-22-2016, 07:02 PM   #2641915  /  #29
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nobody cares about canadia
What about Seattle, a man used the woman's locker room at the public pool, the woman called police.

Apparently he was allowed to stay, but not sure how many women will continue to bring their daughters to that public swimming pool.
I don't know what bubble you live in but Seattle's not Franklin, Tennessee or even Peoria, Illinois.

Most people who've shared a rest room or locker room with a trans person don't know that they did.
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04-23-2016, 06:54 PM   #2642148  /  #30
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nobody cares about canadia
What about Seattle, a man used the woman's locker room at the public pool, the woman called police.

Apparently he was allowed to stay, but not sure how many women will continue to bring their daughters to that public swimming pool.
What about it?

I don't know how many mothers will continue to bring their daughters to that public swimming pool. By the way, which pool was this and where was this incident reported, citations please.

Personally, I don't care. Doesn't bother me at all. I generally don't go to public swimming pools. Primarily because of all the kids, so the fewer of them the better. Though I have to say the girls are generally better behaved and less annoying. Maybe that's no longer the case, I haven't been to a public pool in ages.

I do go to my gym and swim. They don't allow anyone under 17 in the pool, but I guess kids are allowed elsewhere and so also in the dressing rooms. So far they've not been too much of a disturbance. Some of the young adults are annoying but so are some of the seniors.
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04-23-2016, 07:05 PM   #2642152  /  #31
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Is this the tranny thread?

Caitlin Jenner (aka Bruce Jenner) is a 65 year old nutjob.

97% certain she/he is never going remove her/his penis. Jenner’s transgender congruence stops there.

Jenner’s always going to be a cross dresser with facial reconstruction & breast implants.
Which certainly makes things more interesting.
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04-24-2016, 11:02 AM   #2642301  /  #32
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Why do so many trannies and fags commit suicide?

Suicide rates

General population.................................4.6%

Fags/queers...........................................2 0.0%

Trannies.......................................... ......41%

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"If we want to end the scourge of suicide, it’s time we stop trying to fix transgender people. It’s time to fix society."

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Now, how dumb is that! Might as well let all the incarcerated out of prison and fix society because there will always be criminals and society should just get used to it.
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04-24-2016, 03:58 PM   #2642363  /  #33
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Aren't you an endearing little flyspeck.
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04-24-2016, 05:09 PM   #2642373  /  #34
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Why do so many trannies and fags commit suicide?
Because they don't get the psychiatric hypnotherapy that they desperately need to find out why they are so fuktup and get the help they need to put them on the right path.
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04-25-2016, 01:14 AM   #2642469  /  #35
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Why didn't you get help?
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04-25-2016, 07:28 PM   #2642677  /  #36
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We talked about a road trip with a trans friend to FL down the 95. We decided no stopping in NC due to hate bills there; now if this passes gotta hold it through both Carolinas from the VA line to the GA line.
No concerns that a leading advocate to open the bathrooms is a convicted child molester?

Look it up, Chad Sevearance, President of Charlotte’s LGBT Chamber of Commerce.
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04-25-2016, 07:42 PM   #2642684  /  #37
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We talked about a road trip with a trans friend to FL down the 95. We decided no stopping in NC due to hate bills there; now if this passes gotta hold it through both Carolinas from the VA line to the GA line.
No concerns that a leading advocate to open the bathrooms is a convicted child molester?

Look it up, Chad Sevearance, President of Charlotte’s LGBT Chamber of Commerce.
Is that your name?
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04-25-2016, 07:57 PM   #2642691  /  #38
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We talked about a road trip with a trans friend to FL down the 95. We decided no stopping in NC due to hate bills there; now if this passes gotta hold it through both Carolinas from the VA line to the GA line.
No concerns that a leading advocate to open the bathrooms is a convicted child molester?

Look it up, Chad Sevearance, President of Charlotte’s LGBT Chamber of Commerce.
Ah, cute little Baby Bluffoon Jerome has made more poopoo. In this instance, it seems he's overstated the situation.

http://www.snopes.com/nc-bathroom-bi...-sex-offender/

I guess he can't get any traction in other threads so he figured he'd give this one a try.
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04-25-2016, 09:31 PM   #2642715  /  #39
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Leading advocate would be exactly the President of a group that originally proposed an ordinance regrading the issue.

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Group says it will fight

Many of Charlotte’s top employers, including Bank of America and Wells Fargo, already have LGBT protections in place for their employees, said convicted child molester Chad Sevearance, president of the Charlotte Business Guild, an LGBT-founded business group and part of the coalition that originally proposed the ordinance.

The ordinance’s demise, the convicted child molester said, compromises those same employees who are unprotected “when they leave for lunch … when they go to hail a cab for a meeting across town,” the convicted child molester said. “Not only should we have protections in the workplace, but we should have protections in the marketplace, as well.

“The fact that someone can ask me, a convicted child molester, to leave a restaurant because I’m presumed to be gay or transgender … it seems farfetched, but if it does happen, there’s no recourse,” he said.

The business guild planned to meet Tuesday night to consider protests or rallies, convicted child molester Sevearance said, but is more interested in holding public forums to speak to City Council about transgender issues. On its Facebook page, the guild rallied its members to contact City Council members and send a “loud message that this vote is unacceptable and will not be forgotten.”

Convicted child molester Sevearance agrees with Howard’s statement that voting down the ordinance would not be good for recruiting business.

“When … individuals see this and look at Charlotte for a place to put roots down, they’re going to second-guess that,” he said.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...e12311795.html
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04-25-2016, 10:30 PM   #2642720  /  #40
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Ever notice when JerTroll gets caught in a lie, he simply goes on the down low?
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04-25-2016, 11:11 PM   #2642736  /  #41
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Leading advocate would be exactly the President of a group that originally proposed an ordinance regrading the issue.

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Group says it will fight

Many of Charlotte’s top employers, including Bank of America and Wells Fargo, already have LGBT protections in place for their employees, said convicted child molester Chad Sevearance, president of the Charlotte Business Guild, an LGBT-founded business group and part of the coalition that originally proposed the ordinance.

The ordinance’s demise, the convicted child molester said, compromises those same employees who are unprotected “when they leave for lunch … when they go to hail a cab for a meeting across town,” the convicted child molester said. “Not only should we have protections in the workplace, but we should have protections in the marketplace, as well.

“The fact that someone can ask me, a convicted child molester, to leave a restaurant because I’m presumed to be gay or transgender … it seems farfetched, but if it does happen, there’s no recourse,” he said.

The business guild planned to meet Tuesday night to consider protests or rallies, convicted child molester Sevearance said, but is more interested in holding public forums to speak to City Council about transgender issues. On its Facebook page, the guild rallied its members to contact City Council members and send a “loud message that this vote is unacceptable and will not be forgotten.”

Convicted child molester Sevearance agrees with Howard’s statement that voting down the ordinance would not be good for recruiting business.

“When … individuals see this and look at Charlotte for a place to put roots down, they’re going to second-guess that,” he said.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...e12311795.html
Just like Bluffy, a serious problem with reading comprehension, partly due to Hawkinsing.
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04-25-2016, 11:19 PM   #2642738  /  #42
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Wow. 29 posts and already going on my ignore list. That's got to be a record of some sort. Anyway... bye bye indago.
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04-25-2016, 11:22 PM   #2642739  /  #43
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Is this the tranny thread?

Caitlin Jenner (aka Bruce Jenner) is a 65 year old nutjob.

97% certain she/he is never going remove her/his penis. Jenner’s transgender congruence stops there.

Jenner’s always going to be a cross dresser with facial reconstruction & breast implants.
Wow. You know, even for you that seems a bit needlessly judgmental.

If Jenner's unhappiness is alleviated, and she is content without having to remove parts, then fine. If she is happy and finds satisfaction being able to present publicly as female, then it's pretty much nobody's business what dangly bits are under her skirt.
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04-27-2016, 04:03 PM   #2643166  /  #44
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We talked about a road trip with a trans friend to FL down the 95. We decided no stopping in NC due to hate bills there; now if this passes gotta hold it through both Carolinas from the VA line to the GA line.
No concerns that a leading advocate to open the bathrooms is a convicted child molester?

Look it up, Chad Sevearance, President of Charlotte’s LGBT Chamber of Commerce.
Thanks to the research generously supplied by RAFH, not one iota. Dude was 20 and liked young stuff. By that measure half of our Presidents were dangerous. Plus, he was at least at the time a male who had sex with other males. Please explain how such an individual is somehow a danger to females.
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04-27-2016, 04:16 PM   #2643171  /  #45
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Ever notice when JerTroll gets caught in a lie, he simply goes on the down low?
Well, I think when Jerome or another extremist posts stuff like that it's never completely clear whether they (1) believe the bullshit they post, or (2) know it's bullshit but post it as a means of manipulation. I suspect most times the answer in in a matter of degrees of both/and rather than either/or.

Those who are emotionally invested in transphobia and enforcement of binary gender roles often don't know what's going on with themselves when they do things like this.

Joe Baegant mentioned a local leader of the plutocracy in his town in Virginia in his book Deer Hunting With Jesus who told people all the time that NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) wrote the Democratic Party platform.

Same shit, different day.
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05-02-2016, 01:52 PM   #2644944  /  #46
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From The American College of Pediatricians 21 March 2016:
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The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. ...A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. ...Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.
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05-02-2016, 02:09 PM   #2644955  /  #47
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The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States. The College was founded in 2002 by a group of pediatricians including Joseph Zanga, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), as a protest against the AAP's support for adoption by gay couples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ..._Pediatricians
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05-02-2016, 07:42 PM   #2645113  /  #48
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The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a socially conservative association of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States. The College was founded in 2002 by a group of pediatricians including Joseph Zanga, a past president of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), as a protest against the AAP's support for adoption by gay couples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ..._Pediatricians
"The American College of Pediatricians has been described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "hate group" with "a history of propagating damaging falsehoods about LGBT people"."

The "Southern Poverty Law Center IS a "hate group""...
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05-02-2016, 07:55 PM   #2645118  /  #49
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Homosexual Parenting: Is It Time For Change?

ABSTRACT: Are children reared by two individuals of the same gender as well adjusted as children reared in families with a mother and a father? Until recently the unequivocal answer to this question was “no.” Within the last decade, however, professional health organizations,1 academics, social policymakers and the media have begun asserting that prohibitions on parenting by same-sex couples should be lifted. In making such far-reaching, generation-changing assertions, any responsible advocate would rely upon supporting evidence that is comprehensive and conclusive. Not only is this not the situation, but also there is sound evidence that children exposed to the homosexual lifestyle may be at increased risk for emotional, mental, and even physical harm.
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LOL. Quoting the ACP on anything is like quoting ICR or AIG on science. They pull exactly the same crap. In their case, rather than religious apologetics it's to give a pseudo-scientific fig leaf to anti-gay organizations and helping right-wing loons lobby and provide useless amicus briefs.

thatsneakyguy missed the best part of the Wiki, a description by their founding turd.

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Zanga has described ACPeds as a group "with Judeo-Christian, traditional values that is open to pediatric medical professionals of all religions who hold true to the group's core beliefs: that life begins at conception; and that the traditional family unit, headed by a different-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children."
Reads just like Ken Ham's "statement of faith" or that of just about any fundamentalist college where faculty and students alike are required to reject demonstrable reality, evidence be damned.

These idiots are are like every other sham outfit claiming to go "where the evidence leads" but they reject comprehensive sex education and promote abstinence only bullshit. You don't have to be a MD or PhD to figure out abstinence only is colossal failure. Simple statistics show this and just about anyone who cares to can easily demonstrate this for themselves by pulling up easily obtainable state records. If they refuse to acknowledge something as basic as this why would you listen to anything else they have to say? "Where the evidence leads" my ass.

Of course, since they are a policy/lobbying group and not any sort of association that actually produces original research or objective medical science, this comes as no surprise to anyone. Ideology trumps everything with these bozos.

But hey, just about everyone here already knows all this. I'm just fucking bored enough to waste my time typing it out in this shite thread.
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