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Old 03-22-2016, 09:01 PM   #2629161  /  #13
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I wish cats didn't eat so many native birds. Would defo have a couple then (great for rodent control).
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I wish cats didn't eat so many native birds. Would defo have a couple then (great for rodent control).
There's this magical thing ya can do to a cat to prevent it from eatin native birds: keep yer fuckin doors shut and dont let the daggone cat outside.

'round my end of the holler, outdoor cats are illegal, yall. $50 fine, plus $50 to jailbreak yer cat from the shelter (ya got 5 days, or else they put the cat down).
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Why the fuck would I want to have a cat or two shut up inside permanently?

And I don't give a shit about your local legislation. It's not applicable over here.
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Why the fuck would I want to have a cat or two shut up inside permanently?
Keep yer cats inside to

- protect 'em from predator animals that might kill and/or eat 'em
- keep 'em off of roadways where vehicles might run 'em over
- protect 'em from harsh weather conditions
- protect local birds and other small creatures from gettin killed
- be able to pet 'em and love 'em whenever ya want, instead of whenever they get back inside after a day of dodging cars and killin birds
- give 'em a chance at a longer life in comfort, instead of a brutal life in the wild

Frankly, I dunno why ya feel it's so important to risk yer cat's life instead of keepin the cat inside where it's safe.

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Frankly, I dunno why ya feel it's so important to risk yer cat's life instead of keepin the cat inside where it's safe.
For exactly the same reason that I wouldn't want anyone shutting me inside permanently to "keep me safe".

Tell you what: start with yourself. After the first five years you can tell us how great it is.
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Frankly, I dunno why ya feel it's so important to risk yer cat's life instead of keepin the cat inside where it's safe.
For exactly the same reason that I wouldn't want anyone shutting me inside permanently to "keep me safe".

Tell you what: start with yourself. After the first five years you can tell us how great it is.
Yer actin like I aint never had no cats or aint never kept 'em inside when I did have 'em.

I used to let my cats roam around outside, but I done lost too many cats to the roads, son. With the last pair of cats I had, one of 'em got hit and survived, but with brain damage, and a dead arm that atrophied over the years. I aint never let neither one of 'em outside after that, 'specially when I heard that Animal Control hunts outside cats and takes 'em to the shelter to get their $100.
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Frankly, I dunno why ya feel it's so important to risk yer cat's life instead of keepin the cat inside where it's safe.
For exactly the same reason that I wouldn't want anyone shutting me inside permanently to "keep me safe".

Tell you what: start with yourself. After the first five years you can tell us how great it is.
Yer actin like I aint never had no cats or aint never kept 'em inside when I did have 'em.

I used to let my cats roam around outside, but I done lost too many cats to the roads, son. With the last pair of cats I had, one of 'em got hit and survived, but with brain damage, and a dead arm that atrophied over the years. I aint never let neither one of 'em outside after that, 'specially when I heard that Animal Control hunts outside cats and takes 'em to the shelter to get their $100.
No, I aint acting like anything of the sort. I'm simply answering your question, and suggesting that if you think being shut inside permanently is the best way to live you could test that theory yourself.

And pointing out that the situation over here is different. The laws are different. The ecosystem is different. Over here, cats are the predators.
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Why the fuck would I want to have a cat or two shut up inside permanently?
Keep yer cats inside to

- protect 'em from predator animals that might kill and/or eat 'em
- keep 'em off of roadways where vehicles might run 'em over
- protect 'em from harsh weather conditions
- protect local birds and other small creatures from gettin killed
- be able to pet 'em and love 'em whenever ya want, instead of whenever they get back inside after a day of dodging cars and killin birds
- give 'em a chance at a longer life in comfort, instead of a brutal life in the wild

Frankly, I dunno why ya feel it's so important to risk yer cat's life instead of keepin the cat inside where it's safe.
Length of life is not equal to quality of life. Lots of people, esp. in places like Australia, sacrifice the pleasure of having cats for the reasons given.

Where I live, lifespan of outdoor cats can be significantly improved by teaching your cat to come when called, to come in before dark, and to run for the ditch when it hears a motor. My cats learn that, and none of them have been especially brilliant animals.

There's no question they have a significant impact on small wildlife, and I wouldn't have cats if they were regularly killing at risk species. Individual cats tend to specialise though. My last cat liked rabbits, squirrels, and the occasional partridge. He wasn't into small birds. Current cat likes squirrels, the occasional rabbit, and juncos, which are so plentiful in this area they've been pushing out other birds.

I often wonder about the NA studies on cat predation - huge numbers are tossed around, but it is my guess that if one compared those numbers to things like loss of habitat to agriculture and urban sprawl, invasive species like starlings and pigeons, migratory birds killed by running into tall buildings, etc., those killer cats might look like small fry.
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