PHYSICS and the New Intelligent Design <id>: ADVERSARIAL REVIEW -

buttershug · 09-22-2015, 09:54 PM

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Yeah that's all very nice, but the uncertainty principle has a specific mathematical form which relates conjugate variables and quantifies the level of uncertainty. Could you tell us what that mathematical form is please? I'm not even asking you about your certainty principle now, you can just go and google the uncertainty principle and tell me what the mathematical form is for say, Energy and Time or Position and Momentum (those are nice easy ones)

Since my new discoveries were pointing to the actual nature of particles, I think that I had to discovered too a different equation to solve that problem. But I cannot use the existing equation since that is for sure wrong since that equation was based on the wrong assumption.

You keep making wrong assumptions.
And do not look for being wrong.

Your egg experiment is a perfect example.
You were looking for confirmation, not being wrong.

Jet Black · 09-23-2015, 03:01 AM

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Yeah that's all very nice, but the uncertainty principle has a specific mathematical form which relates conjugate variables and quantifies the level of uncertainty. Could you tell us what that mathematical form is please? I'm not even asking you about your certainty principle now, you can just go and google the uncertainty principle and tell me what the mathematical form is for say, Energy and Time or Position and Momentum (those are nice easy ones)

Since my new discoveries were pointing to the actual nature of particles, I think that I had to discovered too a different equation to solve that problem. But I cannot use the existing equation since that is for sure wrong since that equation was based on the wrong assumption.

Ok, but what is one of the current equations. That's all I'm asking, not whether it is right or wrong or whether you can use it.

Steviepinhead · 09-23-2015, 04:48 PM

Did MrID eat Ms. Socrates?

Faid · 09-24-2015, 09:22 AM

Ohhhkay, looks like I didn't miss much did I?

Jet Black · 09-24-2015, 09:44 AM

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Yeah that's all very nice, but the uncertainty principle has a specific mathematical form which relates conjugate variables and quantifies the level of uncertainty. Could you tell us what that mathematical form is please? I'm not even asking you about your certainty principle now, you can just go and google the uncertainty principle and tell me what the mathematical form is for say, Energy and Time or Position and Momentum (those are nice easy ones)

Since my new discoveries were pointing to the actual nature of particles, I think that I had to discovered too a different equation to solve that problem. But I cannot use the existing equation since that is for sure wrong since that equation was based on the wrong assumption.

You keep making wrong assumptions.
And do not look for being wrong.

Your egg experiment is a perfect example.
You were looking for confirmation, not being wrong.

what is the egg experiment?

Faid · 09-24-2015, 09:57 AM

OMG I just read the previous discussion. Wow.
The egg experiment is- something that is best experienced, not described. It is not a mere experiment, but a state of mind. A very peculiar mind.

buttershug · 09-24-2015, 10:24 AM

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Yeah that's all very nice, but the uncertainty principle has a specific mathematical form which relates conjugate variables and quantifies the level of uncertainty. Could you tell us what that mathematical form is please? I'm not even asking you about your certainty principle now, you can just go and google the uncertainty principle and tell me what the mathematical form is for say, Energy and Time or Position and Momentum (those are nice easy ones)

Since my new discoveries were pointing to the actual nature of particles, I think that I had to discovered too a different equation to solve that problem. But I cannot use the existing equation since that is for sure wrong since that equation was based on the wrong assumption.

You keep making wrong assumptions.
And do not look for being wrong.

Your egg experiment is a perfect example.
You were looking for confirmation, not being wrong.

what is the egg experiment?

He tried to see if he could drop an egg onto tissue and not have it break.
IT not breaking proves he has intelligence.

Jet Black · 09-24-2015, 10:28 AM

Is anyone else suspicious of the way that MrID and Socrates are both talking about 2D time?

Faid · 09-24-2015, 04:51 PM

Maybe MrID is Yann?

*mind blown*

Dean W · 09-25-2015, 12:54 AM

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what is the egg experiment?

He tried to see if he could drop an egg onto tissue and not have it break.
IT not breaking proves he has intelligence.

But the hen that laid that egg didn't break it either. Who's to say that the act of the hen laying the egg didn't subject it to as much or more stress than dropping it into a pile of tissue. So, by MID logic, that would make the hen at least as intelligent as he is. Yet he's gone on record as saying that not even chimps, bonobos, or orangutans have intelligence.

Jet Black · 09-25-2015, 09:40 AM

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what is the egg experiment?

He tried to see if he could drop an egg onto tissue and not have it break.
IT not breaking proves he has intelligence.

But the hen that laid that egg didn't break it either. Who's to say that the act of the hen laying the egg didn't subject it to as much or more stress than dropping it into a pile of tissue. So, by MID logic, that would make the hen at least as intelligent as he is. Yet he's gone on record as saying that not even chimps, bonobos, or orangutans have intelligence.

It probably subjected it to more stress than he did; when the hen laid the egg, the egg was very soft - only later does it harden to stop any damage from unintelligent processes.

Faid · 09-25-2015, 02:53 PM

What the hell, let me think about this for a minute...

Problem: Keep the egg from breaking.

MrID's solution: Use a box with a gradually increasing amount of soft-tissue layers.

Chicken's solution: Make a nest.

Both solutions work.

It would seem that, according to MrID, he and the chicken are at least equally intelligent in terms of 'solving the problem'. On top of that, the chicken's solution is way less Rube Goldberg-esque.

Am I missing something?

DaveGodfrey · 09-26-2015, 12:21 AM

Mammalian solution: Give birth to live young.

Monad · 09-26-2015, 01:02 AM

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what is the egg experiment?

He tried to see if he could drop an egg onto tissue and not have it break.
IT not breaking proves he has intelligence.

But the hen that laid that egg didn't break it either. Who's to say that the act of the hen laying the egg didn't subject it to as much or more stress than dropping it into a pile of tissue. So, by MID logic, that would make the hen at least as intelligent as he is. Yet he's gone on record as saying that not even chimps, bonobos, or orangutans have intelligence.

Which shows he has no clue about what intelligence is.

woof · 09-26-2015, 04:06 AM

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Mammalian solution: Give birth to live young.

Meh. The Placoderm Solution, them fur-bags were Johnny-come-lately's in the live birth business.

buttershug · 09-26-2015, 02:02 PM

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what is the egg experiment?

He tried to see if he could drop an egg onto tissue and not have it break.
IT not breaking proves he has intelligence.

But the hen that laid that egg didn't break it either. Who's to say that the act of the hen laying the egg didn't subject it to as much or more stress than dropping it into a pile of tissue. So, by MID logic, that would make the hen at least as intelligent as he is. Yet he's gone on record as saying that not even chimps, bonobos, or orangutans have intelligence.

Which shows he has no clue about what intelligence is.

He started with the conclusion that God created humans, differently than all the other animals and had to make his work fit that conclusion.

Jet Black · 09-26-2015, 08:13 PM

Did someone give MrID's home address to Bart? I'm worried we have another TR murder on our hands.

Jet Black · 09-30-2015, 05:43 PM

Seriously, did one of you people murder him and then keep logging into his account to cover your tracks?

Alfonso Bivouac · 09-30-2015, 08:56 PM

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Seriously, did one of you people murder him and then keep logging into his account to cover your tracks?

Unfortunately his latest experiment showed him to be naturen.

Jet Black · 10-01-2015, 02:09 PM

maybe he should have added a tissue.

Entropy · 10-02-2015, 12:19 AM

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Seriously, did one of you people murder him and then keep logging into his account to cover your tracks?

Soccy is gone too? Will Dave be next?!?!

Resi · 10-02-2015, 01:29 AM

He's alive and well and entertainig a fresh forum.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin...ST;f=14;t=9680

Steviepinhead · 10-02-2015, 03:22 AM

Which "he"? I'm only seeing MrID over there, not Soccy...

Hárbarðr · 10-02-2015, 09:05 AM

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Which "he"? I'm only seeing MrID over there, not Soccy...

Not Socrates.
I hope that he has finally realized that he has wasted years of his life and is doing more useful things.

Although, finding out he is on another forum, and watching him work toward getting himself banned would be more entertaining.

More entertaining and interesting would be if he manages not to get banned.

Hárbarðr · 10-02-2015, 09:12 AM

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He's alive and well and entertainig a fresh forum.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin...ST;f=14;t=9680

Wow. That place is even deader than TR.

09-24-2015, 09:22 AM	#2565427 / #29
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	Ohhhkay, looks like I didn't miss much did I? __________________ Hi!

09-24-2015, 09:57 AM	#2565436 / #31
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	OMG I just read the previous discussion. Wow. The egg experiment is- something that is best experienced, not described. It is not a mere experiment, but a state of mind. A very peculiar mind. __________________ Hi!

09-24-2015, 10:28 AM	#2565440 / #33
Jet Black Finding Things Out Mod: ASS, LSD, Phys Sci : Dec 1969 : 31,476	Is anyone else suspicious of the way that MrID and Socrates are both talking about 2D time? __________________ The Feynmann Algorithm: (1) Write down the problem (2) Think real hard (3) Write down the solution

09-24-2015, 04:51 PM	#2565537 / #34
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	Maybe MrID is Yann? mind blown __________________ Hi!

09-25-2015, 02:53 PM	#2565745 / #37
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	What the hell, let me think about this for a minute... Problem: Keep the egg from breaking. MrID's solution: Use a box with a gradually increasing amount of soft-tissue layers. Chicken's solution: Make a nest. Both solutions work. It would seem that, according to MrID, he and the chicken are at least equally intelligent in terms of 'solving the problem'. On top of that, the chicken's solution is way less Rube Goldberg-esque. Am I missing something? __________________ Hi!

09-23-2015, 04:48 PM	#2565140 / #28
Steviepinhead Senior Member : Mar 2008 : Seattle, WA : 36,673	Did MrID eat Ms. Socrates?

09-26-2015, 12:21 AM	#2565903 / #38
DaveGodfrey Demoderated : Jan 2010 : 10,613	Mammalian solution: Give birth to live young. __________________ Why do I bother?

09-26-2015, 08:13 PM	#2566049 / #42
Jet Black Finding Things Out Mod: ASS, LSD, Phys Sci : Dec 1969 : 31,476	Did someone give MrID's home address to Bart? I'm worried we have another TR murder on our hands. __________________ The Feynmann Algorithm: (1) Write down the problem (2) Think real hard (3) Write down the solution

09-30-2015, 05:43 PM	#2566722 / #43
Jet Black Finding Things Out Mod: ASS, LSD, Phys Sci : Dec 1969 : 31,476	Seriously, did one of you people murder him and then keep logging into his account to cover your tracks? __________________ The Feynmann Algorithm: (1) Write down the problem (2) Think real hard (3) Write down the solution

10-01-2015, 02:09 PM	#2567029 / #45
Jet Black Finding Things Out Mod: ASS, LSD, Phys Sci : Dec 1969 : 31,476	maybe he should have added a tissue. __________________ The Feynmann Algorithm: (1) Write down the problem (2) Think real hard (3) Write down the solution

10-02-2015, 01:29 AM	#2567358 / #47
Resi Another devil : Jan 2012 : Tasmania : 4,200	He's alive and well and entertainig a fresh forum. http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin...ST;f=14;t=9680 __________________ Join the Sarcophilus harrisii anti-defamation league now!

10-02-2015, 03:22 AM	#2567400 / #48
Steviepinhead Senior Member : Mar 2008 : Seattle, WA : 36,673	Which "he"? I'm only seeing MrID over there, not Soccy...

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