Robert Plant or Roger Daltrey

[deadman_932]

It is kind of odd that ..well, I KNOW that Daltry and Townshend grew up listening to old blues stuff, too...like Plant and Page and Keith Richards and a slew of UK rockers...but it's hardly detectable. It's R&B, with Beatles pop.

There's more blues in the early Stones than in The Who...and certainly in Zeppelin.

Page was responsible, really, for just mining the Old Blues -- from Johnson and Leadbelly on up...Memphis Minnie, John Lee Hooker, Blind Willie Johnson, John Hurt, Howlin' Wolf... Willie Dixon (who sued LZ), Albert King, Bukka White...Big Boy Crudup, Big Bill Broonzy, Blind Boy Fuller, Muddy Waters...that's all OLD Blues

[deadman_932]

I liked King Crimson a lot, but...I got to see ELP live and ...they were innovative. Especially Keith Emerson. Yes was nice...but I just found them tepid. Musically tight, though. I might go with King Crimson, too, just on chonological priority.

[Lucretius III]

Daltrey and Towsend I think I am safe in saying were more influenced by 2nd (or 3rd) generation Blues/R&B really, Page & Plant went back beyond that to 1st generation for their influences.

The very fact that the Motown song Heatwave is on the album A Quick One is a giveaway really

[Matty]

Daltrey was in Kes. Too cool. No contest.


oh yeah and

Mine's a tale that can't be told, my freedom I hold dear.
How years ago in days of old, when magic filled the air.
T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair.
But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her, her, her....yeah.

SLAP. What the fuck were you thinking? This guy, that wrote that? rock god? FFS,


And FWIW much as we can soon kick off a long overdue guitarist thread, the OP asks a very specific question. Who is the better guitarist out of Page and Thownsend is 100% completely moot.

Fleas' bass playing doesnt make Kedis any more musical.

[dug_down_deep]

Lemon Song my ass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUA_Q3s0So

[deadman_932]

Um...if people are that interested in music, there's some real gems to be found here: http://thepiratebay.org/ I know a few friends that post up bootleg material there regularly, free of the copyright nonsense surrounding authorized materials. BitTorrent, but...hey. I've never had a problem yet.

[Testy Calibrate]

Daltrey was in Kes. Too cool. No contest.


oh yeah and

SLAP. What the fuck were you thinking? This guy, that wrote that? rock god? FFS,


And FWIW much as we can soon kick off a long overdue guitarist thread, the OP asks a very specific question. Who is the better guitarist out of Page and Thownsend is 100% completely moot.

Fleas' bass playing doesnt make Kedis any more musical.

The lyrics didn't always work but sometimes they worked brilliantly. And the singing/talent has become the issue now I think.

Also, it just occurred to me, some of you probably don't remember these guys when they were in the respective bands with the original members. I never saw the who but I saw Zep and let me tell you, un-frickin-believable. I don't know how I could compare Bing crosby with Perry Como for example. (full discosure: the Como's were family friends so I'm supposed to really like his stuff. But for the life of me, I never got into it. I don't know how anyone could. No disrespect.)

[Thalia Thinks]

I have decided on Plant.

I cannot choose between the two bands in an overall since but as far as front men go I feel Plant is the better of the two.

As some have pointed out, being a front man isn't about strictly talent. It's the whole package. Skill, looks, personality, stage presence.

I'm curious who got laid more.

I'll have to give Puck a call and ask her to chime in on this. I know she is a big fan of The Who and IIRC she and my Gramma saw Led Zepplin in concert and she said Plant sounded like shit live.

[Lucretius III]

Possibly the best way to settle it would be a fight between Daltrey and Plant and my money would still be on Daltrey

[Thalia Thinks]

Possibly the best way to settle it would be a fight between Daltrey and Plant and my money would still be on Daltrey

IDK, judging by those recent pics Plant might be able to sit on Daltrey until he calmed down.

[JamesBannon]

Just like being back in the 6th form at school only then the big argument was who was better (pun intended) Yes or ELP
I was always the awkward sod who said King Crimson

Same here, although I liked both ELP and yes as well.

I was never a huge fan of either The Who or Led Zeppelin, though they both did some good stuff. As far as the front man goes, though I'd pick Robert Plant.

[dug_down_deep]

Possibly the best way to settle it would be a fight between Daltrey and Plant and my money would still be on Daltrey

Google Fight!

[dug_down_deep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa1kpIix0Tg

[Lucretius III]

Just goes to show (seems to be my phrase of the day this one ) first of all that there is nothing new online and that I was right Daltrey is better

[Garnet]

Plant because I like Led Zepplin and I've never been fond of The Who.

[Magdlyn]

I voted Plant based on shaggability. Daltrey just didnt do it for me. Big round eyes and a blobby nose.

[Hookpunch]

Daltrey was in Kes. Too cool. No contest.


oh yeah and

SLAP. What the fuck were you thinking? This guy, that wrote that? rock god? FFS,


And FWIW much as we can soon kick off a long overdue guitarist thread, the OP asks a very specific question. Who is the better guitarist out of Page and Thownsend is 100% completely moot.

Fleas' bass playing doesnt make Kedis any more musical.

, no one can bring down a rock idol like you Matty.

I was waiting for you to chime in. Isn't Plant the same idiot that jumped around crying "I am a golden god!" in front of Cameron Crowe who put that classic bit of gorgonzola cheese in his movie Almost Famous.

Even at 60 he isn't any better, at the end of the rehearsal for the reunion concert he yells "Sons of thunder!", the guy really talks like that, that explains "T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair."

http://zeppeled.blogspot.com/2007/11...interview.html

[Hookpunch]

Possibly the best way to settle it would be a fight between Daltrey and Plant and my money would still be on Daltrey

Hey man, don't mess with Daltrey, even at 60, he is a well known bad ass.

[Magdlyn]

, no one can bring down a rock idol like you Matty.

I was waiting for you to chime in. Isn't Plant the same idiot that jumped around crying "I am a golden god!" in front of Cameron Crowe who put that classic bit of gorgonzola cheese in his movie Almost Famous.

Even at 60 he isn't any better, at the end of the rehearsal for the reunion concert he yells "Sons of thunder!", the guy really talks like that, that explains "T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair."

http://zeppeled.blogspot.com/2007/11...interview.html

Hippies really suck, don't they? He probably reeks of patchouli as well. What a douche.

[Hookpunch]

I voted Plant based on shaggability. Daltrey just didnt do it for me. Big round eyes and a blobby nose.

I take offence, I have often been mistaken for Daltrey.

[Hookpunch]

Possibly the best way to settle it would be a fight between Daltrey and Plant and my money would still be on Daltrey

well few people know it but Roger Daltrey is a master of the martial arts.

Here he is as a young man instructing a class on self defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkU8P...eature=related

[Magdlyn]

I take offence, I have often been mistaken for Daltrey.

Pix or STFU.

[Hookpunch]

Pix or STFU.

Hey watch yourself Magdlyn, I am a black belt in the Daltrey school of self defence as in the video I posted.

[deadman_932]

And then, of course, there's these immortal, trenchant, visionary lyrics:


"My passion is a nightingale with a Sword throat
A dolphin in the Thames it’s a wasted love
It’s a telephone ringing in A empty house
It’s motherless child...
My nightmare’s a devil’s dog on a rolling log
Got no control, no sense of time, its
Just a rhyme
And a banshee hollers in the dead of night
It’s a homeless ghost
You can say it’s a good thing
You can say it’s a bad thing
You can call it anything you want
But you can’t call it love "

I agree with this bit:
"Got no control, no sense of time, its Just a rhyme" -- and not good, either. I didn't know if it's Daltrey or some giddy schoolgirl addressing "Dear Diary" ...and that was from 1992.

Edit: I also love this photo...ballet meets...something, Cthulhu knows what :

[Meathead]

Plant 12, Daltrey 7.

As for Daltrey's range, I think he proves he can sing tenderly in at least Behind Blue Eyes, it is not his fault Townshend wasn't a ballad writer.

IMO, another display of Daltrey's tone deafness when tries to get all mellow. Sorry.

"no one knows what it's like to be the sad man... to be the bad man...behind blue eyes"

SLAP. What the fuck were you thinking? This guy, that wrote that? rock god? FFS,

You would have to agree that it's actually the general rule that rock lyrics, in and of themselves, are pretty ridiculous. Moreover, granted that Plant doesn't have, say, Dylan's talents for songwriting, Plant nevertheless could lay claim to having written songs that have become classic rock songs, which in this thread is certainly worth more than what Daltrey can claim. Come on, Matty. Say it with me: Plant > Daltrey. And no, it's not beneath me to resort to bribing either.