The Completely Necessary "Who is the best guitarist" battle thread - Setup. -

Testy Calibrate · 05-30-2008, 09:39 PM

Dammit. I went and spent my 4 nominees on country. And I don't like country! Since Chet was already there I added Segovia for someone else (I couldn't find Sor on youtube

) and Charo because She absolutely blew me away in Vegas. Of course,.. er. Never mind.

But Roy Clark and Doc Watson are 2 of the all time greats (along with chet).

Raitt? She's a good player, maybe better than me but not in the same league as the others on the list..

Hookpunch · 05-30-2008, 09:47 PM

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How the hell do Paisley or Raitt qualify as good guitarists? I'd sooner put someone like Kevin Cadogan in there before some no-talent country ass-clowns.

To tell the truth I hear Paisley (mostly from guitar magazines) is technically on par with guys like Dimeola and Morse but I have never been able to listen through his country songs long enough to get to the lead break.

I'll ask around some guitar forums for a good video and let the posters decide on whether he should be included.

Hookpunch · 05-30-2008, 09:53 PM

okay give this a listen, I would say his technical ability is everything they say it is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pUj5sKM0rXY

Hookpunch · 05-30-2008, 09:56 PM

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Dammit. I went and spent my 4 nominees on country. And I don't like country! Since Chet was already there I added Segovia for someone else (I couldn't find Sor on youtube

) and Charo because She absolutely blew me away in Vegas. Of course,.. er. Never mind.

But Roy Clark and Doc Watson are 2 of the all time greats (along with chet).

Raitt? She's a good player, maybe better than me but not in the same league as the others on the list..

actually I shouldn't have limited you to four, four just seemed to be what everyone else was adding on, my apologies. You can take any of my nominees except Morse and Montgomery.

Hookpunch · 05-31-2008, 12:03 AM

Are we set to go? If I don't hear of any changes by 12:00 am Eastern I think we should go with the list as it is.

Testy Calibrate · 05-31-2008, 12:10 AM

Just go with it. Some of those match ups are going to skew the top 10 though. Maybe they should be initially put into a general vote for top 10 or 20 first?

Testy Calibrate · 05-31-2008, 12:16 AM

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okay give this a listen, I would say his technical ability is everything they say it is.

Wow. He's pretty good. Style has a lot to do with it too.

Doc watson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYKzXUwmm3I

Hookpunch · 05-31-2008, 12:16 AM

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Maybe they should be initially put into a general vote for top 10 or 20 first?

Yeah I know my fave Steve Morse looks like he will be going out in the first round due to the group he is in.

How do you mean general vote for top 10 or 20?

Testy Calibrate · 05-31-2008, 04:35 AM

Well, I thought maybe the first 2 rounds of voting ought to be the 2 that lose from each and then reorganize the losers to keep maybe 5 or 10 to put back into the list again? WHat do you think?

Hookpunch · 05-31-2008, 04:45 AM

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Well, I thought maybe the first 2 rounds of voting ought to be the 2 that lose from each and then reorganize the losers to keep maybe 5 or 10 to put back into the list again? WHat do you think?

I'll have to run that by the commissioner of six string Matty.

Lucretius III · 05-31-2008, 10:14 AM

Dammit !
Missed out on this but how could you not include Bernie Gripplestone ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGWYGR3xy2Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BSPA...eature=related

Comfortably Numb · 05-31-2008, 03:46 PM

Interview with Jimmy Page from RollingStone com.

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Every song you played at Led Zeppelin's reunion show in London last year started with or was based on a killer riff. What makes a great Zeppelin riff?
It is something you know instinctively. It has energy and attitude. There's sex in it as well. It was definitely my concept to have a riff-based band. My influences were the riff-based blues coming from Chicago in the Fifties — Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf and Billy Boy Arnold records. "Boogie Chillen'," by John Lee Hooker — that is a riff. But you take it, absorb it and apply your own character, so it comes out another way.

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Posted Jun 12, 2008 3:35 PM

How did they manage that?

Monad · 05-31-2008, 04:45 PM

Can't believe you all left off Jan Ackermann

and what about George Benson? - one of the greatest jazz guitarists

Hookpunch · 05-31-2008, 04:52 PM

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and what about George Benson? - one of the greatest jazz guitarists

Well I would have put more jazz guitarists on there but Morse, Dimeola, Montgomery, Metheny etc. are excellent representatives of the genre.

Monad · 05-31-2008, 05:21 PM

Not the best

and Ackermann isn't "jazz" anyway

also what about

Allan Holdsworth

Steve Hillage??

Hookpunch · 05-31-2008, 05:29 PM

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Not the best

Huh? I would stack Morse, Dimeola, Montgomery and Metheny against any guitarist not just jazz guitarists as the best.

Okay we couldn't fit everone in, I would have liked Holdsworth in but Matty and I didn't want to monopolize the process. I am sure everyone has a guitarist that didn't make it in that they would have like in.

Michael Hedges is also missing, I would have also put in John Petrucci.

Monad · 05-31-2008, 05:46 PM

I mean compared to Benson, Ackermann, and Holdsworth. Personally I don't like Dimeola or Methany that much - they are technically skilled but I can't think of anything they did on their own I really enjoy whereas Benson contributed to some of the greatest sets in jazz history.

leccy · 06-01-2008, 10:50 AM

Just seen this.

No Gary Moore?
No Peter Green?
No Rory Gallagher?

Magdlyn · 06-01-2008, 11:43 AM

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A couple of guitarists handicapped in the finger department.

Django.

Jerry Garcia.

And let's not forget Bert Jansch, Davy Graham, Martin Carthy, John Martyn

David B

I am just aghast it took til post 18 for someone to nominate Jerry.

Danby · 06-01-2008, 04:08 PM

If, you're still taking names,

Les Paul
Chet Atkins

deserve to be on the list.

SteveF · 06-01-2008, 07:04 PM

My favourite guitarist is Kevin Shields from My Bloody Valentine; he did things with his guitar that no one else has.

A much underrated guitarist is Nils Lofgren. I went to see Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band on Friday and it was an excellent reminder of how talented Nils is.

Monad · 06-01-2008, 07:26 PM

Steve Hackett deserves to be there.

Hookpunch · 06-01-2008, 08:57 PM

Hey guys, I agree with all the previous posts, all were worthy of being on the list but nominations were on a first come first serve.

There are a few on the list I would replace with Paul and Atkins myself.

David B · 06-01-2008, 09:00 PM

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Hey guys, I agree with all the previous posts, all were worthy of being on the list but nominations were on a first come first serve.

There are a few on the list I would replace with Paul and Atkins myself.

Me, too.

Unless I've missed something, Richard Thompson isn't there, either.

Or Rory, as someone else said.

But we've got a list, and maybe we should run with out now, else we might never start.

David B

Hookpunch · 06-01-2008, 09:08 PM

Unless I've missed something, Richard Thompson isn't there, either.

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Thompson is in group 10

John Towner 41
Jeff Beck 42
Robbie Robertson 43
Richard Thompson 44

Matty should start the showdowns sometime tonight.

05-30-2008, 09:39 PM	#66338 / #51
Testy Calibrate goats in trees! : Mar 2008 : The rainbow connection : 18,875	Dammit. I went and spent my 4 nominees on country. And I don't like country! Since Chet was already there I added Segovia for someone else (I couldn't find Sor on youtube ) and Charo because She absolutely blew me away in Vegas. Of course,.. er. Never mind. But Roy Clark and Doc Watson are 2 of the all time greats (along with chet). Raitt? She's a good player, maybe better than me but not in the same league as the others on the list.. __________________ Someday we'll find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM

05-31-2008, 12:10 AM	#66405 / #56
Testy Calibrate goats in trees! : Mar 2008 : The rainbow connection : 18,875	Just go with it. Some of those match ups are going to skew the top 10 though. Maybe they should be initially put into a general vote for top 10 or 20 first? __________________ Someday we'll find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM

05-31-2008, 04:35 AM	#66456 / #59
Testy Calibrate goats in trees! : Mar 2008 : The rainbow connection : 18,875	Well, I thought maybe the first 2 rounds of voting ought to be the 2 that lose from each and then reorganize the losers to keep maybe 5 or 10 to put back into the list again? WHat do you think? __________________ Someday we'll find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM

05-31-2008, 10:14 AM	#66491 / #61
Lucretius III Suburban Avenger : Mar 2008 : Lancashire, England : 2,061	Dammit ! Missed out on this but how could you not include Bernie Gripplestone ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGWYGR3xy2Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BSPA...eature=related __________________ *Coincidences do happen ...that's why we have a word for them* Last edited by Lucretius III; 05-31-2008 at 11:54 AM.

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05-30-2008, 09:53 PM	#66343 / #53
Hookpunch Senior Member : Mar 2008 : 584	okay give this a listen, I would say his technical ability is everything they say it is. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pUj5sKM0rXY

05-31-2008, 12:03 AM	#66402 / #55
Hookpunch Senior Member : Mar 2008 : 584	Are we set to go? If I don't hear of any changes by 12:00 am Eastern I think we should go with the list as it is.

05-31-2008, 04:45 PM	#66635 / #63
Monad Rabbit in your headlights Mod: LSD, Phys Sci : Mar 2008 : UK : 13,346	Can't believe you all left off Jan Ackermann and what about George Benson? - one of the greatest jazz guitarists

05-31-2008, 05:21 PM	#66673 / #65
Monad Rabbit in your headlights Mod: LSD, Phys Sci : Mar 2008 : UK : 13,346	Not the best and Ackermann isn't "jazz" anyway also what about Allan Holdsworth Steve Hillage??

05-31-2008, 05:46 PM	#66690 / #67
Monad Rabbit in your headlights Mod: LSD, Phys Sci : Mar 2008 : UK : 13,346	I mean compared to Benson, Ackermann, and Holdsworth. Personally I don't like Dimeola or Methany that much - they are technically skilled but I can't think of anything they did on their own I really enjoy whereas Benson contributed to some of the greatest sets in jazz history.

06-01-2008, 10:50 AM	#66947 / #68
leccy Senior Member : May 2008 : UK : 990	Just seen this. No Gary Moore? No Peter Green? No Rory Gallagher?

06-01-2008, 04:08 PM	#66995 / #70
Danby Irrepressible Romantic : Mar 2008 : 5,859	If, you're still taking names, Les Paul Chet Atkins deserve to be on the list.

06-01-2008, 07:04 PM	#67036 / #71
SteveF Pleistocene person : Mar 2008 : London, UK. : 27,270	My favourite guitarist is Kevin Shields from My Bloody Valentine; he did things with his guitar that no one else has. A much underrated guitarist is Nils Lofgren. I went to see Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band on Friday and it was an excellent reminder of how talented Nils is.

06-01-2008, 07:26 PM	#67046 / #72
Monad Rabbit in your headlights Mod: LSD, Phys Sci : Mar 2008 : UK : 13,346	Steve Hackett deserves to be there.

06-01-2008, 08:57 PM	#67084 / #73
Hookpunch Senior Member : Mar 2008 : 584	Hey guys, I agree with all the previous posts, all were worthy of being on the list but nominations were on a first come first serve. There are a few on the list I would replace with Paul and Atkins myself.

06-01-2008, 09:08 PM	#67090 / #75
Hookpunch Senior Member : Mar 2008 : 584	Unless I've missed something, Richard Thompson isn't there, either. [/QUOTE] Thompson is in group 10 John Towner 41 Jeff Beck 42 Robbie Robertson 43 Richard Thompson 44 Matty should start the showdowns sometime tonight.