The best star trek captain?

[Jest2Ask]

DlX2

Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?

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Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

Not mine, but awesome nonetheless, yeah?

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?

Fuck if I know. I'm a TOS kinda guy.

[Tartantyco]

ooohhh! Maybe we should start a thread on hottest ST actors/actresses

Tasha Yar for me, just the thought of sliding the grand daughter of Bing Crosby one gives me a "white" Christmas

Deanna Troy - yes guy! I love those Mediterranean features with that English accent almost always slipping out.

T'Pol, she really had an odd but attractive look and I don't mean the character, the actress.

Beverly Crusher ---a tough call to say who had the nicer pecs, her or Uhura

Which brings to the original babe to fill out a Trek mini-skirt -Uhura! Damn but those legs were distracting. No wonder Kirk lost so many red shirted ensigns , he couldn't concentrate.

Laren Ro - or whatever the name of Michelle Forbes' character was. I even like the mole.

WANT MOAR!

[ravenok]

DlX2

Captain Jean - Luc Picard : Out standing great work , the stuff to be found on You -Tube is better in many respects to mainstream entertainment

I do not seem to recall the song and dance with the hat & cane any idea what episode that was from?

That was not from a specific episode. It was just for fun, and it's been showed at many a convention.

[Athene]

Okay just consider this,

would you rather want to be flute playing, earl grey tea drinking , getting pyscho analyzed by the woman with the weird American accent Jean Luc Picard?

or

two fisted, drop kicking , tugging on your boot after a romp with that episode's hottie guest star James T. Kirk?

Deanna Troi (spelling) is English, that was an English accent she had

[Athene]

It has to be Picard for me, he has the voice, the intelligence, the military bearing.

[Hedwig]

Picard. He could be tough when it was necessary, but he also had a little thing called finesse. Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop. The Enterprise would have been boned if Kirk had been taken in by the Borg queen.

Also, I cannot imagine Kirk being as worthy a sparring partner against Q as Picard clearly was.

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Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop.

This is why ST:TOS > ST:TNG.

That and the sexual tension EVERYWHERE.

[Hookpunch]

Picard. He could be tough when it was necessary, but he also had a little thing called finesse. Kirk, as much as I love him, had about as much finesse as a bull in a china shop. The Enterprise would have been boned if Kirk had been taken in by the Borg queen.

Also, I cannot imagine Kirk being as worthy a sparring partner against Q as Picard clearly was.

You forget, Kirk beat Trelane who must have been a Q, and Apollo and various other god like beings that Roddenberry like to trash.

Picard tough? Once again I have to point out, Kirk put the beat down on Ricardo Montalban, Picard couldn't beat his senior citizen brother in the vineyard.

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You forget, Kirk beat Trelane who must have been a Q, and Apollo and various other god like beings that Roddenberry like to trash.

Picard tough? Once again I have to point out, Kirk put the beat down on Ricardo Montalban, Picard couldn't beat his senior citizen brother in the vineyard.

Kirk also trashed the shit out of Landru, which was essentially proto-Borg anyways.

The real question is one of "who told the prime directive to go fuck itself more often?"

Let's face it. We all know the answer. The answer is: violating the prime directive is fucking awesome.

[slideyfoot]

Easy question for me: who was the best actor? Patrick Stewart, no contest. But then I'm not much of a trekkie, so I'm missing decades worth of geek discussion.

[Hookpunch]

Easy question for me: who was the best actor? Patrick Stewart, no contest. But then I'm not much of a trekkie, so I'm missing decades worth of geek discussion.

Actually when he was young Shatner seemed to have been a better actor then when he got older. If you ever see him in a couple of old Twilight Zone episodes, Nightmare at 20,000 Feet or Nick of Time, you'll be surprised that he is the same actor as the guy in TJ Hooker.

Although lately in Boston Legal he seems to have regained his acting chops.

[slideyfoot]

Actually when he was young Shatner seemed to have been a better actor then when he got older. If you ever see him in a couple of old Twilight Zone episodes, Nightmare at 20,000 Feet or Nick of Time, you'll be surprised that he is the same actor as the guy in TJ Hooker.

I like that he seems to have a sense of humour about himself, which is the main point in his favour for me. Would be interesting checking out his earlier work, but is it at all comparable with a top RSC guy like Stewart?

Though you could argue that there is a big difference between a good stage actor and someone who can be convincing on film. Personally, I tend to lean toward the opinion that if you can manage to engage an audience on the stage, without the aid of effects/music/camera angles etc, then that's a greater achievement than managing the same on film.

But on the other...other hand, equally arguable that they're different skill sets. E.g., to bring this back to martial arts (yay!), people like Bruce Lee would have been pretty terrible in, say, an RSC production of King Lear. However, on film, he had immense screen presence. Would be interesting to know if they could ever translate to the stage: I've never acted (well, except once when I was a pirate at the age of about 6 - IIRC, my role consisted of fishing and complaining about the captain ), so no idea.

[dug_down_deep]

Best captain - Picard. Best series - TNG. No question about it for me.

[nygreenguy]

Best captain - Picard. Best series - TNG. No question about it for me.

I agree. But voyager comes in a close second for me.

DS9 is in dead last by a long shot.

[Hookpunch]

I like that he seems to have a sense of humour about himself, which is the main point in his favour for me. Would be interesting checking out his earlier work, but is it at all comparable with a top RSC guy like Stewart?

I think Shatner also started on the stage,

According to Wikipedia.

" Trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, Shatner performed at the Shakespearean Stratford Festival of Canada in Stratford, Ontario. He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great."

[Holly]

Actually, the best Star Trek captain would have been Captain Taggart, but he is not listed in the options, so I'll have to go with Kirk...

[slideyfoot]

" Trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, Shatner performed at the Shakespearean Stratford Festival of Canada in Stratford, Ontario. He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great."

That would have been fun to see! The choice of plays is interesting too, especially if he was the lead in both: I can definitely see the link between Kirk, Henry V and Tamburlaine/Timur.

[DMB]

That would have been fun to see! The choice of plays is interesting too, especially if he was the lead in both: I can definitely see the link between Kirk, Henry V and Tamburlaine/Timur.

Did he play the lead roles in Henry V and Tamburlaine?

[Ray Moscow]

All I can think of is Shatner delivering Hamlet's soliloquy:

To ------ BE, or NOT to BE -- THAT is the QUEStion ...

[slideyfoot]

Did he play the lead roles in Henry V and Tamburlaine?

Sounds like it, if the wiki is accurate (though as we all know, not exactly the most reliable source of info): "He played a range of Shakespearean roles at the Stratford Festival in productions that included Shakespeare's Henry V and Marlowe's Tamburlaine the Great

[Hookpunch]

All I can think of is Shatner delivering Hamlet's soliloquy:

To ------ BE, or NOT to BE -- THAT is the QUEStion ...

You know his early work didn't have that diction, and he seems to have lost that with his Denny Crane work on Boston Legal. I wonder if that was just something he did for the Kirk part.

[Ray Moscow]

Actually, I think Shatner is a good actor. We can make fun of him a bit for Kirk's outlandishness, but he did invent the role (AFAIK) of ST Captain after all. All others are compared to his standard.

We can forgive TJ Hooker, which we only watched to see Heather Locklear anyway. He has redeemed himself as Denny Crane anyway.

However, I don't think any of the other ST captain players compare well to Patrick Stewart as a serious actor, but it's a bit of "apples & oranges" comparison to expect them to.

[umop apisdn w,I]

You know his early work didn't have that diction, and he seems to have lost that with his Denny Crane work on Boston Legal. I wonder if that was just something he did for the Kirk part.

It was.

He's said in various interviews that part of his characterisation for Kirk was that Kirk had that peculiar diction as a way of overcoming a stammer - but unfortunately people didn't realise that it was a deliberately affected character trait and thought it was simply bad acting.

[ergaster]

Has to be Kirk. The first, the best. Janeway second.

And since we're on the topic of Star Trek:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfx8Nc6VKnI