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08-02-2011, 12:47 AM   #1490494  /  #1
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Dawkins Jokes about Rape

http://skepchick.org/2011/07/the-privilege-delusion/
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08-02-2011, 01:15 AM   #1490509  /  #2
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08-02-2011, 01:20 AM   #1490511  /  #3
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08-02-2011, 03:11 AM   #1490614  /  #4
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And how did Dawkins joke about rape? He put down skepchick for overreacting about a guy talking to her on the elevator where it was a significant portion of one of her blogs. One thing that goes along with putting yourself out in public is that the public will react with you. There will be some nut jobs and there will be some decent people. But remember she put herself in that position. Skepchick blew an extremely small incident way out of proportion and Dawkins rubbed her face in that fact.
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08-02-2011, 03:12 AM   #1490617  /  #5
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another gay forum jdg is slowly conquering...
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08-02-2011, 03:20 AM   #1490625  /  #6
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08-02-2011, 03:26 AM   #1490630  /  #7
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With shades of matty!

Eta omg dawkins is mattyshizzle

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08-02-2011, 03:29 AM   #1490631  /  #8
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This may be one of the first times I have agreed with Dawkins since I read "The Selfish Gene."
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08-02-2011, 03:33 AM   #1490636  /  #9
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Wtf are you talking about, are you drunk on cocktails again

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08-02-2011, 03:35 AM   #1490639  /  #10
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I am talking about that she overreacted to the guy asking her to his room and then she overreacted to Dawkins criticism and initially she overreacted to that retard who said he hoped she was raped (note he did not threaten to rape her).
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08-02-2011, 03:40 AM   #1490642  /  #11
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08-02-2011, 03:40 AM   #1490644  /  #12
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As a guy who really enjoys objectifying women, and using them as playthings for my own gratification -- I still think it's creepy to proposition a woman in an elevator at 4 a.m.

I don't think she really overreacted. Some of the responders certainly did, and Dawkins probably reacted to them, not the original post.

And now everybody's overreacting together, and it's all great fun, while the original creep that started it all is still drinking coffee alone in his hotel room a month later.
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08-02-2011, 03:53 AM   #1490657  /  #13
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As a guy who really enjoys objectifying women, and using them as playthings for my own gratification -- I still think it's creepy to proposition a woman in an elevator at 4 a.m.

I don't think she really overreacted. Some of the responders certainly did, and Dawkins probably reacted to them, not the original post.

And now everybody's overreacting together, and it's all great fun, while the original creep that started it all is still drinking coffee alone in his hotel room a month later.
He probably wasn't even a creep. He was at a fucking atheist conference. He probably had fucking aspergers and literally wanted to have a cup of coffee and talk about the last Harry Potter movie.
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08-02-2011, 04:36 AM   #1490685  /  #14
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oh shit tapatalk confused me and i thought gunner's post was the OP because i have jerome on ignore!

all i saw was the thread title and then gunner's post so i thought his screenshot was actually from dawkins!

please accept tapatalk's apology!
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08-02-2011, 07:24 AM   #1490782  /  #15
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As a guy who really enjoys objectifying women, and using them as playthings for my own gratification -- I still think it's creepy to proposition a woman in an elevator at 4 a.m.

I don't think she really overreacted. Some of the responders certainly did, and Dawkins probably reacted to them, not the original post.

And now everybody's overreacting together, and it's all great fun, while the original creep that started it all is still drinking coffee alone in his hotel room a month later.
He probably wasn't even a creep. He was at a fucking atheist conference. He probably had fucking aspergers and literally wanted to have a cup of coffee and talk about the last Harry Potter movie.
That's quite possible.
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08-02-2011, 10:51 AM   #1490801  /  #16
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Hey JEROME!
You accidentally posted this in "Science/Skepticism"
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08-02-2011, 12:27 PM   #1490817  /  #17
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Vox, it is about the Skepticism community.

If you think it better somewhere else?
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I am talking about that she overreacted to the guy asking her to his room and then she overreacted to Dawkins criticism
dawkins "criticism" amounted to using the plight of women in fundamentalist muslim countries to dismiss a woman's complaint about what she considered sexual harassment. this is gross, exploitative, demeaning behavior that allows dawkins to pretend that he gives a shit about women in order to silence women. it's a very convenient tactic for sexists, because on the list of "terrible things that can happen to people" stuff like FGM and wearing a burqa are pretty goddamn high, so a clueless privileged asshole like dawkins could use this as cover to dismiss a whole lot of stuff women in the first world consider unfair or abusive.

do you actually think this is acceptable? really?

btw, this lady's "overreaction" to the dude asking her for coffee (under some pretty specific circumstances) amounted to her saying that she thought it was rude and clueless and made her uncomfortable. how is this an "overreaction" but dawkins privileged temper tantrum about how first world women shouldn't complain because they have it better than women who can't drive or leave home without a male escort not also an overreaction? how does that work?

you can see her "overreaction" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHwduG1Frk#t=4m40s

holy crap listen to this crazy bitch go on for less than a minute about how this incident made her uncomfortable, try wearing a tent for a week before getting uppity again!!

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and initially she overreacted to that retard who said he hoped she was raped (note he did not threaten to rape her).
no, seriously, are you trolling? you're making a distinction between being told she deserves to be raped, and being threatened with rape, in order to conclude that she overreacted to being told she deserves to be raped, tortured, or killed? and her "overreaction" once again was anything but, since she basically just posted it as an example of the intimidating and fucked up things men in the atheist community say when they disagree with her. please tell me this is a troll
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08-02-2011, 01:19 PM   #1490823  /  #19
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I am talking about that she overreacted to the guy asking her to his room and then she overreacted to Dawkins criticism
dawkins "criticism" amounted to using the plight of women in fundamentalist muslim countries to dismiss a woman's complaint about what she considered sexual harassment. this is gross, exploitative, demeaning behavior that allows dawkins to pretend that he gives a shit about women in order to silence women. it's a very convenient tactic for sexists, because on the list of "terrible things that can happen to people" stuff like FGM and wearing a burqa are pretty goddamn high, so a clueless privileged asshole like dawkins could use this as cover to dismiss a whole lot of stuff women in the first world consider unfair or abusive.

do you actually think this is acceptable? really?

btw, this lady's "overreaction" to the dude asking her for coffee (under some pretty specific circumstances) amounted to her saying that she thought it was rude and clueless and made her uncomfortable. how is this an "overreaction" but dawkins privileged temper tantrum about how first world women shouldn't complain because they have it better than women who can't drive or leave home without a male escort not also an overreaction? how does that work?

you can see her "overreaction" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHwduG1Frk#t=4m40s

holy crap listen to this crazy bitch go on for less than a minute about how this incident made her uncomfortable, try wearing a tent for a week before getting uppity again!!

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and initially she overreacted to that retard who said he hoped she was raped (note he did not threaten to rape her).
no, seriously, are you trolling? you're making a distinction between being told she deserves to be raped, and being threatened with rape, in order to conclude that she overreacted to being told she deserves to be raped, tortured, or killed? and her "overreaction" once again was anything but, since she basically just posted it as an example of the intimidating and fucked up things men in the atheist community say when they disagree with her. please tell me this is a troll
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08-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #1490826  /  #20
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Whoa . . . gunner want to go get some coffee in my room?
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08-02-2011, 01:29 PM   #1490827  /  #21
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you can see her "overreaction" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHwduG1Frk#t=4m40s
jesus christ the whining

eta: also has anyone noticed that feminism-related matters are a big button for ffUY
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08-02-2011, 01:30 PM   #1490828  /  #22
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I've been vaguely keeping an eye on this netdrama over the past few weeks. It's been pretty amusing! From the group-think at Pharyngula to the idiots at erv, there's been entertainment from all directions.
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well what's the consensus here? i'm thinking dawkins is being a douche
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08-02-2011, 01:32 PM   #1490831  /  #25
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well what's the consensus here? i'm thinking dawkins is being a douche
Isn't that pretty much his job?
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