The Great Sausage Debate

rainbow · 10-08-2014, 01:07 PM

http://answersingenes.blogspot.com/2...-sausages.html

Or is a sausage filled with chicken really a sausage?

~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ · 10-08-2014, 01:39 PM

Meat is murder

rainbow · 10-08-2014, 01:46 PM

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Meat is murder

We in Africa don't always see it that way.

~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ · 10-08-2014, 01:48 PM

Brother Daniel · 10-08-2014, 05:18 PM

re the OP: That blog post is witty enough, sure. But is it fair? Where are the examples of philosophers behaving in a way analogous to that?

Heinz Hershold · 10-08-2014, 09:02 PM

The analogy is not correct. A true philosopher would never build an actual sausage machine; he would just describe it conceptually with conceptual sausages and all.

naturalist.atheist · 10-08-2014, 10:50 PM

The philosophers would have a virtual sausage fest with that one.

~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ · 10-08-2014, 10:55 PM

GROSS

Quizalufagus · 10-09-2014, 03:37 AM

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re the OP: That blog post is witty enough, sure. But is it fair? Where are the examples of philosophers behaving in a way analogous to that?

What is this even an analogy for? I'm not sure what philosophy's opponents imagine the real life analogue of this machinery is, or what philosophical sausages they think it would make if it were working right. Actually, people who make arguments like the OP don't seem to understand why people do philosophy or what it is.

ETA: For that matter, every time I've ever had a conversation with someone demanding to know what the practical fruits of philosophy are, they've just refused to accept that any of useful byproducts you can list are actually philosophy. The people who look around for these practical gains just cry No True Philosopher when you point out how valuable philosophical projects like first-order logic have turned out to be.

Heinz Hershold · 10-09-2014, 06:05 AM

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The philosophers would have a virtual sausage fest with that one.

Can you provide the links to support that assertion?

rainbow · 10-09-2014, 07:06 AM

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The philosophers would have a virtual sausage fest with that one.

Can you provide the links to support that assertion?

http://www.earthstar.co.uk/deep1.htm

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"And I demand that I am Vroomfondel!" shouted the younger one.

Majikthise turned on Vroomfondel. "It's alright," he explained angrily, "you don't need to demand that."

"Alright!" bawled Vroomfondel banging on an nearby desk. "I am Vroomfondel, and that is not a demand, that is a solid fact! What we demand is solid facts!"

"No we don't!" exclaimed Majikthise in irritation. "That is precisely what we don't demand!"

Scarcely pausing for breath, Vroomfondel shouted, "We don't demand solid facts! What we demand is a total absence of solid facts. I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel!"

"But who the devil are you?" exclaimed an outraged Fook.

"We," said Majikthise, "are Philosophers."

steve_bnk · 10-09-2014, 08:37 AM

Calling Dr Freud...calling Dr Freud patients choking on phallic symbols..

Old Dan · 10-09-2014, 10:20 AM

Look, yall, chicken sausage is a real thing, now, and we have evidence.

http://www.atkfoods.com/chicken-sausages

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The Ingredient that Makes Every Dish Something Special

Our Sausages by Amylu gourmet chicken sausages are:

100% natural — no nitrites, no nitrates, no added MSG, no preservatives, no artificial anything
100% fresh boneless, skinless breast and thigh meat
100% pork-free — our sausages feature tender lamb casings for better eating quality. Available in lamb casing and skinless on our website. (***Please Note: Some retail locations may stock a variety of lamb casing, pork casing, or skinless. Please read the ingredient statement to see which casing is being used. If no casing is listed, the product is skinless. Call for locations.)
Gluten free
Low in fat — high in protein — low in carbs
A premium-quality handmade texture that's beautiful to look at, and delivers a truly satisfying dining experience

There's even recipes fer cookin chicken sausage: http://allrecipes.com/recipes/meat-a...icken-sausage/

So that settles it, I win the thread, yall can go home now.

eversbane · 10-09-2014, 04:08 PM

wood burning stoves and space exploration go so well together

AppleEatsWorm · 10-09-2014, 06:33 PM

Science involves basic philosophy skills (reasoning, argumentation, logic, deduction, induction, observation). Data without interpretation is not useful. Interpretation that cannot be backed up with argumentation is also not useful. A philosopher who rejected experimentation when it was readily available would indeed be foolish, but like Brother Daniel brought up, I'm not sure that's actually happening.

Lion IRC · 10-10-2014, 04:41 AM

BUMP retweet. Whatever. Good post.

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Science involves basic philosophy skills (reasoning, argumentation, logic, deduction, induction, observation).

Science used to be called natural philosophy

steve_bnk · 10-10-2014, 05:18 AM

Philosophy is a category not a function.

Heinz Hershold · 10-10-2014, 05:45 AM

I still think my post is the best. Sausages, links, get it?

Ahhh never mind!

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The philosophers would have a virtual sausage fest with that one.

Can you provide the links to support that assertion?

Non-Euclidean SlapBracelet · 10-10-2014, 06:35 AM

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Sausages, links, get it?

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Oh, wait. It's a pun! I get it. Ha!

Heinz Hershold · 10-10-2014, 07:41 AM

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Sausages, links, get it?

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Oh, wait. It's a pun! I get it. Ha!

Non-Euclidean SlapBracelet · 10-10-2014, 08:32 AM

That didn't answer my question at all.

rainbow · 10-10-2014, 10:26 AM

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That didn't answer my question at all.

Did your question really exist? How do you know?

It may have been a figment of your imagination, possibly a hallucination.

Are you on any medication?

rainbow · 10-10-2014, 10:30 AM

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Look, yall, chicken sausage is a real thing, now, and we have evidence.

http://www.atkfoods.com/chicken-sausages

:

The Ingredient that Makes Every Dish Something Special

Our Sausages by Amylu gourmet chicken sausages are:

100% natural — no nitrites, no nitrates, no added MSG, no preservatives, no artificial anything
100% fresh boneless, skinless breast and thigh meat
100% pork-free — our sausages feature tender lamb casings for better eating quality. Available in lamb casing and skinless on our website. (***Please Note: Some retail locations may stock a variety of lamb casing, pork casing, or skinless. Please read the ingredient statement to see which casing is being used. If no casing is listed, the product is skinless. Call for locations.)
Gluten free
Low in fat — high in protein — low in carbs
A premium-quality handmade texture that's beautiful to look at, and delivers a truly satisfying dining experience

There's even recipes fer cookin chicken sausage: http://allrecipes.com/recipes/meat-a...icken-sausage/

So that settles it, I win the thread, yall can go home now.

Well there are some real problems with that.
An all natural chicken product is a chicken, not a sausage. No chickens naturally become sausages.

I find your argument to be flawed.

Old Dan · 10-10-2014, 11:29 AM

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Look, yall, chicken sausage is a real thing, now, and we have evidence.

http://www.atkfoods.com/chicken-sausages

:

The Ingredient that Makes Every Dish Something Special

Our Sausages by Amylu gourmet chicken sausages are:

100% natural — no nitrites, no nitrates, no added MSG, no preservatives, no artificial anything
100% fresh boneless, skinless breast and thigh meat
100% pork-free — our sausages feature tender lamb casings for better eating quality. Available in lamb casing and skinless on our website. (***Please Note: Some retail locations may stock a variety of lamb casing, pork casing, or skinless. Please read the ingredient statement to see which casing is being used. If no casing is listed, the product is skinless. Call for locations.)
Gluten free
Low in fat — high in protein — low in carbs
A premium-quality handmade texture that's beautiful to look at, and delivers a truly satisfying dining experience

There's even recipes fer cookin chicken sausage: http://allrecipes.com/recipes/meat-a...icken-sausage/

So that settles it, I win the thread, yall can go home now.

Well there are some real problems with that.
An all natural chicken product is a chicken, not a sausage. No chickens naturally become sausages.

I find your argument to be flawed.

That's 'cause yer basin' yer own point in a logical fallacy, miss.

Ya said "No chickens naturally become sausages." That's true. I counter that there aint no meat whatsoever, not pork, nor beef neither, that can naturally become sausage.

Since all sausage is unnatural, and done gotta be made by hand, then it's entirely possible to make chicken sausage, y'hear?

steve_bnk · 10-10-2014, 01:10 PM

I've had beef, venison, tofu, and pork sausage.

Never heard of chicken.

10-08-2014, 01:07 PM	#2439990 / #1
rainbow Senior Member : Aug 2014 : Africa : 1,328	The Great Sausage Debate http://answersingenes.blogspot.com/2...-sausages.html Or is a sausage filled with chicken really a sausage? __________________ Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game

10-08-2014, 05:18 PM	#2440091 / #5
Brother Daniel predisposition to antagonism Kodos the Executioner Mod: HASH, Philo, Math, THC : Jun 2008 : on the shore of the North Atlantic : 15,670	re the OP: That blog post is witty enough, sure. But is it fair? Where are the examples of philosophers behaving in a way analogous to that? __________________ Requiem: Everything we humans do is fully deserving of ridicule and mockery. Without a God to laugh, it falls to us enlightened fools to make up the difference.

10-09-2014, 04:08 PM	#2440565 / #14
eversbane Big Time Nerd. : Apr 2009 : PETM : 26,953	wood burning stoves and space exploration go so well together __________________ "probability isn't an absolute fact about the world" -Febble "equilibrium points are not dense in the phase space." -el guapo "[T]here seems to be a lot of quackery here -- almost a New Age belief in the power of a gut unspoiled by burgers and fries." -John Hawks

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10-08-2014, 01:39 PM	#2439998 / #2
~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ Banned : Mar 2008 : 44,650	Meat is murder

10-08-2014, 01:48 PM	#2440001 / #4
~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ Banned : Mar 2008 : 44,650

10-08-2014, 09:02 PM	#2440213 / #6
Heinz Hershold Superior Member : Sep 2011 : 2,727	The analogy is not correct. A true philosopher would never build an actual sausage machine; he would just describe it conceptually with conceptual sausages and all.

10-08-2014, 10:50 PM	#2440270 / #7
naturalist.atheist Member : May 2012 : 69	The philosophers would have a virtual sausage fest with that one.

10-08-2014, 10:55 PM	#2440271 / #8
~~Bartholomew Roberts~~ Banned : Mar 2008 : 44,650	GROSS

10-09-2014, 08:37 AM	#2440415 / #12
steve_bnk Senior Member : Apr 2014 : Seattle Wa USA : 496	Calling Dr Freud...calling Dr Freud patients choking on phallic symbols..

10-09-2014, 06:33 PM	#2440682 / #15
AppleEatsWorm mit OXY-Kraft : Aug 2014 : 11216 Burton Street, Independence MO : 247	Science involves basic philosophy skills (reasoning, argumentation, logic, deduction, induction, observation). Data without interpretation is not useful. Interpretation that cannot be backed up with argumentation is also not useful. A philosopher who rejected experimentation when it was readily available would indeed be foolish, but like Brother Daniel brought up, I'm not sure that's actually happening.

10-10-2014, 05:18 AM	#2441075 / #17
steve_bnk Senior Member : Apr 2014 : Seattle Wa USA : 496	Philosophy is a category not a function.

10-10-2014, 08:32 AM	#2441097 / #21
Non-Euclidean SlapBracelet Senior Member : Sep 2013 : 2,700	That didn't answer my question at all.

10-10-2014, 01:10 PM	#2441167 / #25
steve_bnk Senior Member : Apr 2014 : Seattle Wa USA : 496	I've had beef, venison, tofu, and pork sausage. Never heard of chicken.