Abiogenesis lacks convincing evidence - Part 3 -

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 08:56 AM

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Please tell us how you request for research funding is going. I can hardly wait.

Well you'll have to, unsurprisingly its not going anywhere. Do you dispute that this would be a reasonable methodology to pursue if I was to test that hypothesis?

Not really.

If its not an unreasonable methodology to pursue then was there a point to your sarcasm?

I'd not dispute it because it wouldn't be worth the effort.

....which by the way you admitted yourself.

Where did I do that?

In Red.

DaveGodfrey · 05-13-2016, 08:58 AM

That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 08:58 AM

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And BTW:

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It doesn't even matter how he worded it (although there is no doubt that was what he had asked, and we've got his actual posts to prove it).

When I first posted those exact words (about the only kind of "evidence" he would accept), rains said nothing about "strawmen" or about supposedly misrepresenting him.

In fact, he directly challenged me to show the evidence.

Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 09:01 AM

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That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

Weak.

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 09:08 AM

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You're saying that your own request on the sea vent hypothesis (the one request made by you, someone with "more experience on the field than we can possibly imagine") is not "so important"?

Nope.

You can't find any quote from me saying that it is the only evidence I'd accept.

[snip behavior unbecoming such an "experienced" person on the field]

So tell me what OTHER kind of evidence you asked for.

And tell me what was the kind of evidence that we know you DID ask for.

Both trivially easy to respond to.

Well?

Then YOU make the effort to find those quotes.
If you can't - admit you can't.

DaveGodfrey · 05-13-2016, 09:13 AM

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That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

Weak.

Hardly. What else did you think it was referring to? I pointed out that I'm not a physicist, in the preceding post, so this wasn't something I was actually likely to be doing.

You keep insisting that you're a scientist, and what you do is Science, so you should have been able to point out if my very general description of the methodology I would have used would be acceptable to you.

Instead all I get is snarkiness that I'm not the one actually doing this experiment.

Weak indeed Rainy.

buttershug · 05-13-2016, 10:13 AM

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And BTW:

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It doesn't even matter how he worded it (although there is no doubt that was what he had asked, and we've got his actual posts to prove it).

When I first posted those exact words (about the only kind of "evidence" he would accept), rains said nothing about "strawmen" or about supposedly misrepresenting him.

In fact, he directly challenged me to show the evidence.

Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

We consider saying "not tails" to be equivalent to saying "heads".

Faid · 05-13-2016, 11:25 AM

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And BTW:

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It doesn't even matter how he worded it (although there is no doubt that was what he had asked, and we've got his actual posts to prove it).

When I first posted those exact words (about the only kind of "evidence" he would accept), rains said nothing about "strawmen" or about supposedly misrepresenting him.

In fact, he directly challenged me to show the evidence.

Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Answer MY question: What OTHER kind of evidence did you ask for?

Stop evading.

Faid · 05-13-2016, 11:26 AM

Oh and, answering a question with a question is a sign you're losing the argument, as an unimaginably-experienced person once said.

Faid · 05-13-2016, 11:28 AM

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You're saying that your own request on the sea vent hypothesis (the one request made by you, someone with "more experience on the field than we can possibly imagine") is not "so important"?

Nope.

You can't find any quote from me saying that it is the only evidence I'd accept.

[snip behavior unbecoming such an "experienced" person on the field]

So tell me what OTHER kind of evidence you asked for.

And tell me what was the kind of evidence that we know you DID ask for.

Both trivially easy to respond to.

Well?

Then YOU make the effort to find those quotes.
If you can't - admit you can't.

In what weird parallel reality it is OTHERS that need to point you to your own claims, which you have never denied or dropped?

In what weird part or rainsworld is YOUR intellectual integrity the responsibility of others?

Pathetic.

Try again.

Faid · 05-13-2016, 11:30 AM

It's a simple question, rains.

Tell me what was the kind of evidence that you DID ask for.

"You tell me" doesn't cut it. In fact, it makes you look like an ass who can't own up to his words.

Is that what you want?

Faid · 05-13-2016, 11:32 AM

Poor rains. He came to this thread as a person with "more experience than we can possibly imagine", and he ended up like a washed-out, two-bit politician who's struggling to escape his past bloopers and avoid stating his past claims.

Sad, really.

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 12:18 PM

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And BTW:

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It doesn't even matter how he worded it (although there is no doubt that was what he had asked, and we've got his actual posts to prove it).

When I first posted those exact words (about the only kind of "evidence" he would accept), rains said nothing about "strawmen" or about supposedly misrepresenting him.

In fact, he directly challenged me to show the evidence.

Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Answer MY question: What OTHER kind of evidence did you ask for?

Stop evading.

You're the one evading.

You checked the original statements and can't find anything.

Now you want to make it my problem?

No, I'm not digging you out of this.

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 12:22 PM

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That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

Weak.

Hardly. What else did you think it was referring to? I pointed out that I'm not a physicist, in the preceding post, so this wasn't something I was actually likely to be doing.

You keep insisting that you're a scientist, and what you do is Science, so you should have been able to point out if my very general description of the methodology I would have used would be acceptable to you.

Instead all I get is snarkiness that I'm not the one actually doing this experiment.

Diddums.

rainbow · 05-13-2016, 12:24 PM

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We consider saying "not tails" to be equivalent to saying "heads".

I'm happy for you.

Why is this relevant?

DaveGodfrey · 05-13-2016, 02:22 PM

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That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

Weak.

Hardly. What else did you think it was referring to? I pointed out that I'm not a physicist, in the preceding post, so this wasn't something I was actually likely to be doing.

You keep insisting that you're a scientist, and what you do is Science, so you should have been able to point out if my very general description of the methodology I would have used would be acceptable to you.

Instead all I get is snarkiness that I'm not the one actually doing this experiment.

Diddums.

What makes you think I'm upset about this Rainy? I'm more disappointed that for someone who professes to have "more experience than I can imagine" in abiogenesis research, the only criticism you can provide is that I'm not writing grant proposals to NERC in order to do experiments I'm obviously not qualified to do, in a field of research that barely exists, and which I very clearly have no expertise in at all. You can do better than that, surely?

DaveGodfrey · 05-13-2016, 02:50 PM

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And BTW:

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Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Answer MY question: What OTHER kind of evidence did you ask for?

Stop evading.

You're the one evading.

You checked the original statements and can't find anything.

Now you want to make it my problem?

No, I'm not digging you out of this.

I'm not aware that you ever came out and said it was the only kind of evidence that you'd accept. However it was the only example that you provided and you didn't ever say that anything else would be acceptable to you.

Is there any other evidence that you'd accept? If so, what is it? Don't be coy.

Faid · 05-13-2016, 03:15 PM

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And BTW:

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Which you have consistently failed to do.

Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Do you dispute the bolded part is true?

Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Answer MY question: What OTHER kind of evidence did you ask for?

Stop evading.

You're the one evading.

You checked the original statements and can't find anything.

Exactly. I didn't find ANY OTHER kind of evidence that you asked for. Perhaps you can do better?

Also, other than... WHAT? Come on rains. Say it. Be a champ.

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Now you want to make it my problem?

Being afraid to admit to the kind of evidence you DID ask for IS your problem, rains. Sorry.

I know it, you know it, the whole thread knows it.

And seeing you weasel and twist and turn like that, unwilling to admit to what you HAVE asked for, is hurting no one but you.

By all means keep doing it if you like. Being the nice guy that I am, though, I'll keep trying to give you a chance to dig yourself out:

What kind of evidence DID you ask for in relation to the sea vent hypothesis, rains?

Go ahead. Make the leap.

Faid · 05-13-2016, 03:24 PM

Here rains. I'll make it real simple for you.

This is the one question you demand an answer to (after systematically ignoring all mine):

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Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Notice that "it" there, rains? That's the answer to MY question.

And I'm sure you agree that, unless we have firmly established what "it" refers to, your question is pretty much meaningless.

So tell me, in clear and precise words (and with links, if you like) what "it" refers to, and I'll then respond to your question.

Sounds reasonable, yes?

buttershug · 05-13-2016, 09:10 PM

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We consider saying "not tails" to be equivalent to saying "heads".

I'm happy for you.

Why is this relevant?

It's your tactic of choice.
I'm just pointing out that it doesn't work.

rainbow · 05-20-2016, 12:11 PM

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Here rains. I'll make it real simple for you.

This is the one question you demand an answer to (after systematically ignoring all mine):

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Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Notice that "it" there, rains? That's the answer to MY question.

Stop dodging.

I didn't say it anywhere and you were lying.

rainbow · 05-20-2016, 12:17 PM

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I'm not aware that you ever came out and said it was the only kind of evidence that you'd accept.

Thank you.

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However it was the only example that you provided and you didn't ever say that anything else would be acceptable to you.

I was asked a question about what sort of evidence I'd accept. I answered.
Nobody delivered.

The question remains in the court of those wishing to defend the hypothesis. YOU come up with the Evidence that convinces YOU.

I'll tell you where it falls short.

That is how it works.

rainbow · 05-20-2016, 12:19 PM

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That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass.

Weak.

Hardly. What else did you think it was referring to? I pointed out that I'm not a physicist, in the preceding post, so this wasn't something I was actually likely to be doing.

You keep insisting that you're a scientist, and what you do is Science, so you should have been able to point out if my very general description of the methodology I would have used would be acceptable to you.

Instead all I get is snarkiness that I'm not the one actually doing this experiment.

Diddums.

What makes you think I'm upset about this Rainy?

Your rant.

Perhaps when you get over it, we can discuss it further?

rainbow · 05-20-2016, 12:22 PM

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We consider saying "not tails" to be equivalent to saying "heads".

I'm happy for you.

Why is this relevant?

It's your tactic of choice.
I'm just pointing out that it doesn't work.

What you say is my tactic, Butters?

Faid · 05-20-2016, 12:36 PM

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Here rains. I'll make it real simple for you.

This is the one question you demand an answer to (after systematically ignoring all mine):

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Answer my question:Where did I say it was the ONLY kind of evidence I'd accept?

Notice that "it" there, rains? That's the answer to MY question.

Stop dodging.

I didn't say it anywhere and you were lying.

Tsk Tsk Tsk. Remind me that thing about resorting to insults again? How did it go?

What is "it", rains?

You don't even have the spine to say it, do you?

What a sad parody of your previous pseudo-academic facade you've become.

05-13-2016, 08:58 AM	#2649573 / #1027
DaveGodfrey Demoderated : Jan 2010 : 10,613	That was referring to my efforts to create a quark-gluon plasma in my spare time dumbass. __________________ Why do I bother?

05-13-2016, 11:26 AM	#2649598 / #1034
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	Oh and, answering a question with a question is a sign you're losing the argument, as an unimaginably-experienced person once said. __________________ Hi!

05-13-2016, 11:30 AM	#2649601 / #1036
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	It's a simple question, rains. Tell me what was the kind of evidence that you DID ask for. "You tell me" doesn't cut it. In fact, it makes you look like an ass who can't own up to his words. Is that what you want? __________________ Hi!

05-13-2016, 11:32 AM	#2649603 / #1037
Faid just as bad : Mar 2008 : 22,052	Poor rains. He came to this thread as a person with "more experience than we can possibly imagine", and he ended up like a washed-out, two-bit politician who's struggling to escape his past bloopers and avoid stating his past claims. Sad, really. __________________ Hi!

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