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Messages - Dave Hawkins

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Agreed.  And the evidence I've seen suggests that it has.

This is real simple.  We have two competing hypotheses for any given desert like the Sahara ... Milankovitch Cycles?  Or Human Activity?
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There's an important difference between desert and desertification you're militantly ignoring.
Not ignoring it.  It's just not important.  A desert is an area that has become desertified.  Unless of course it was that way from the beginning, which is highly unlikely given the evidence we have in the present day.
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What is the most horrifying thing that you see the Republican Party doing right now?
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Dave, in your opinion, is the Tapeat sandstone layer the one that was deposited by the flood?
"the one" ??? There were many layers deposited during the global flood. Yes I think the Tapeats Sandstone was deposited sometime during the global flood year.
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I think you octo Hatters call this sort of thing a literature review, no?
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On the contrary, what I have instructed Sea Star to do is what's known as the scientific method... Propose a hypothesis, then try to refute it. The hypothesis is "desertification is caused by over grazing and deforestation" ... Googling those terms for various regions of the world allows us to attempt to refute that hypothesis. Certainly if we find no articles supporting that hypothesis, then we can consider it to be refuted. On the other hand, if we do find articles supporting that view, then we have to evaluate those for their quality. If we find an abundance of articles supporting that view and the articles seem to be well researched, then we can consider the hypothesis to be tentatively supported.

Welcome to science!
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A year from now 10 people from the DOJ and FBI will be behind bars and this crowd will be saying that it's Injustice and that Donald Trump is the real crook.

This crowd is not interested in truth.
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I've posted evidence for the Flood many times before ... some examples better than others ...

Here's one of my all time favorites ...

The sandstone layer that includes the Tapeats but has many different names all across North America ... I was first made aware of the remarkable nature of this sandstone layer by Bill Hoesch of ICR ... https://www.icr.org/article/3342/ ...

This layer is enormous ... covering a majority of the land area of the N. Am continent ...

Also it's incredibly flat ...

And it's incredibly thin ...

There is no process occurring today which could possibly create anything remotely close to such a layer.  (No the Bahamas doesn't cut it)

While you cannot look at this layer by itself and conclude "Global Flood" ... you CAN look at it and conclude ... "Gigantic continent sized hydraulic cataclysm the likes of which has never been equalled in all of recorded history."

From that conclusion, it's only a small step, employing other evidence, to "Global Flood"

You're welcome.
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Lol ... no.  YOU have it wrong.
So the "insurance policy" was simultaneously something for in case it happened and something to prevent it from happening?
Or what?

Please elaborate.
Yes. Please elaborate.
it appears that they put a plan in place to try to prevent Trump from getting elected. But in case he got elected, the plan would allow them to get him impeached.
Aha. Right. Just like a life insurance is something you put in place to prevent your death. But in case you die, allows you to resurrect?
Analogies are never perfect.
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Lol

Sea Star has been trolling me this whole time.
No she hasn't you dumbshit. She's trying to figure out if you actually have a point because your stupid a+b produces lettuce as a sum. She's trying to figure out where your logic is broken so she can either agree or disagree with you. As it is, you've just made a stupid assertion and pointed to pajamas as support.
Of course I have a point. How many times do in have to repeat it? The cave art in SE Algeria tells us that this area was lush and green less than 10000 years and that there were grazing herds. 

So this is your summary, or at least your main point. Good. Thanks.

Now please feel free to present your next claim -
Quote
what we know about mismanaged grazing herds causing desertification today
with link and summary - be sure to point out the main idea you want me to understand.

Thanks! I was sad when I thought you quit. :(

Lol sure you were. You were already given the link and summary. Now what new questions do you have?

Link and summary about overgrazing?
If it was in all the jabber at the other folks, I told you I didn't read anything but the posts between you and me.
But now that I understand your first claim, we can move on. If you posted something earlier in response to someone else, kindly share it with me now that you and I are at that point. Thanks!

http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2013/sep/overgrazing-turning-parts-mongolian-steppe-desert

I don't know if you are just trolling or not ... if you are, you're pretty good lol ... anyway, I'll play your game at least for little while longer ...

You say that you want me to "teach"you ... so I guess you are taking the role of "student" ... great ...

One of the most important things I want my "students" to learn is to THINK INDEPENDENTLY.  For example, you could have come up with this link yourself if you had recalled that the article was talking about the Mongolian steppe by Googling "desertification overgrazing Mongolian steppe" ... comes up as first hit ... anyway, you can continue to teach yourself about this topic by changing terms ... try "desertification overgrazing deforestation" ... also go to Google Maps or Google Earth and zoom way out so you can see all the areas worldwide affected by desertification and try adding those regions to your search term ... for example, "desertification overgrazing South Africa" or Kenya or West Texas or wherever you like.
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Who's known for killing and maiming people, Dave? Antifa protesters or the Klan/white supremacists/nazis? Come on, you must know the answer to that one.
Both.  (Talking about currently, not in the past)
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Daily Caller... The FBI lost five months worth of text messages between struck and page ... Lol... sorry for the spelling using Siri
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Also why don't you tell me why you are interested in sustainable agriculture.
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Lol

Sea Star has been trolling me this whole time.
No she hasn't you dumbshit. She's trying to figure out if you actually have a point because your stupid a+b produces lettuce as a sum. She's trying to figure out where your logic is broken so she can either agree or disagree with you. As it is, you've just made a stupid assertion and pointed to pajamas as support.
Of course I have a point. How many times do in have to repeat it? The cave art in SE Algeria tells us that this area was lush and green less than 10000 years and that there were grazing herds. 

So this is your summary, or at least your main point. Good. Thanks.

Now please feel free to present your next claim -
Quote
what we know about mismanaged grazing herds causing desertification today
with link and summary - be sure to point out the main idea you want me to understand.

Thanks! I was sad when I thought you quit. :(

Lol sure you were. You were already given the link and summary. Now what new questions do you have?

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If you and Sea Star don't buy It, fine. Say so, then shut up and move on. It won't help to keep asking me 6 different ways from Sunday.
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Lol

Sea Star has been trolling me this whole time.
No she hasn't you dumbshit. She's trying to figure out if you actually have a point because your stupid a+b produces lettuce as a sum. She's trying to figure out where your logic is broken so she can either agree or disagree with you. As it is, you've just made a stupid assertion and pointed to pajamas as support.
Of course I have a point. How many times do in have to repeat it? The cave art in SE Algeria tells us that this area was lush and green less than 10000 years and that there were grazing herds.  Put that together with what we know about mismanaged grazing herds causing desertification today and you have a case for "overgrazing plus a few other factors caused the Sahara."

What seems to be the problem in understanding this?
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Lol ... no.  YOU have it wrong.
So the "insurance policy" was simultaneously something for in case it happened and something to prevent it from happening?
Or what?

Please elaborate.
Yes. Please elaborate.
it appears that they put a plan in place to try to prevent Trump from getting elected. But in case he got elected, the plan would allow them to get him impeached.
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Yes.  The devil wears BOTH uniforms ... Lol
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Hey girls ... got anything interesting to talk about RE: saving agriculture?
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Lol ... no.  YOU have it wrong.
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The Strzok anti-Trump text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page about "no way" Trump gets elected and having an "insurance policy" to see that he doesn't, certainly needs some explaining.
::)

There was no " 'insurance policy' to see that he doesn't "

That was invented by conspiracy theorists.


Bullshit. The insurance policy was clearly mentioned in Strzok's text message. Whether it actually existed or not, it wasn't invented by conspiracy theorists.
Yes it was mentioned.
But there's nothing in the memo that says it had anything to do with preventing Trump's election.

Quote from: Stzrok
I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office -- that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk. It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40.
Expecting a life insurance policy to prevent your death would be strange.
Then again, taking an umbrella with you to make sure it will not rain, does seem to work.
He wasn't proposing an insurance policy to prevent death in the analogy ... he was proposing and insurance policy in case death occurred.  And it did in fact occur ... "death" happened from Strzok's perspective when Trump was elected ... so ... time to cash in the insurance policy ... good thing they had enough foresight to purchase it ... see?
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The Strzok anti-Trump text message to FBI lawyer Lisa Page about "no way" Trump gets elected and having an "insurance policy" to see that he doesn't, certainly needs some explaining.
::)

There was no " 'insurance policy' to see that he doesn't "

That was invented by conspiracy theorists.


Bullshit. The insurance policy was clearly mentioned in Strzok's text message. Whether it actually existed or not, it wasn't invented by conspiracy theorists.
Yes it was mentioned.
But there's nothing in the memo that says it had anything to do with preventing Trump's election.
Hahahaha .... right... Lol