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The left-wing conspiracy theory that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russian officials ahead of the 2016 presidential campaign continued to crash and burn Friday, with Robert Mueller's indictment showing the foreign nationals began meddling in US politics one year before Donald Trump announced his run for office.

Almost exactly a year after the above tweet: "Woman Who Helped Organize Miss Universe in 2013 Announced Trump's Presidential Run in January, 2015"

Go ahead and put your high-speed mind to work on the possible implications.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Brownbeck Resigns
Given Brownback's association with the dominionist New Apostolic Reformation, it will be interesting to see how he sees fit to define and promote religious freedom.
rural oregon is a very strange place.

It shares its values with the rest of what some have called the "Empty Quarter," so not all that strange. Ignorantly jealous of its supposed independence and myopically freedom-loving, yes. I agree that an inhospitable attitude is not notably common, though there is some racism.
A few months ago the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit found that breastfeeding was a protected medical condition under the Pregnancy Discrimination Act. Of course that involved an employer-employee dispute which is what the Pregnancy Discrimination Act specifically addresses, but perhaps it could be argued that the decision set a precedent in regards to civil rights of breastfeeding mothers.
Nope. In this thread it's been established that on this topic I don't know what I'm talking about and Pavlovs Dog does. I'm fine with that, and if I wish to learn more I'll do my own research, per his suggestion.  :)
Thank you. I know I'm not owed any lessons on civil rights law from Pavlovs Dog, but at least I've learned that there's no point to me trying to dispute anything in this topic with him.
At least three state laws protecting the rights of breastfeeding mothers specifically refer to their right to breastfeed in a "place of public accommodation." However when I referred to that term, I was told by Pavlovs Dog that "'accommodation' refers to the ADA" as if it was irrelevant to this topic. If he's a lawyer he knows that the term is used in civil rights law, not just the ADA. Still, I may be mistaken and am willing to improve my understanding.
Wouldn't it be funny if PD turned out to be a lawyer who litigated these types of cases?

He could very well be. In which case he should have no trouble pointing out where I've erred.
You have no idea what you are talking about.

Yes, you've said that more than once. However, you've yet to even begin to show that your understanding of this topic is superior to mine, nor have you done anything to actually support your assertions. Indeed, your apparent claim that the concept of "public accommodation" is only relevant to the ADA is a glaring falsehood. It's pretty clear that your posts in this thread addressed to me are just lame trolling. If you at least exerted yourself enough to show a spark of wit, I could respect that.
Yes, the potential conflict is go read about the civil rights act, the ADA, and protected classes and what the constitutional power is that is the basis for them.

Non-answer. If you knew the specifics of the conflict, you wouldn't be assigning me homework to try to discover it for you. I haven't invoked suspect classes or "protected classes."  I've pointed to the concept of public accommodation and its relevance to the state law. The state has decided it has an interest in protecting the rights of breastfeeding mothers in regards to public accommodations. Are you claiming that the state's decision is unconstitutional? If so, on what basis? Are you aware of any successful challenge to this sort of law (which exists in the statutes of nearly every state in the US)?
State law is not really relevant to the extent it conflicts with constitutional rights.  "Accommodation" refers to the ADA, which has the same type of constraints as the civil rights act.

"Public accommodation" is a relevant concept in regard to much more than the ADA.

Can you cite any possible conflict between this particular state law and constitutional rights?
The property rights belong in the same place all "property rights" are with respect to commercial activity in view of the civil rights act.  Which is not to say the answer is clear there.

"Commercial activity" is a rather vague category, while "public accommodation" is much less so. In regard to public accommodations (definitely including public restaurants) decisions by the Supreme Court of the United States have clarified the matter considerably.

It also is clear that the state in which this incident took place has a law protecting the right of a woman to breastfeed her child "in any location, public or private, where the woman and child are otherwise authorized to be." The opinion of the doofus Rob Port about the primacy of property rights in this case is empty blithering.

Christmas is over, but Darwimas is right around the corner!  :clap:

I am not in a position to say that Lincoln was the worst president in US history. I suspect that Lincoln wanted to do good for the country and I suspect he worked very hard to try to do what he believed was the right thing. I do believe it was a mistake to not let the South go and secede peacefully. I think eradicating slavery could have been accomplished in better ways. I think his critical bad decision that Lit the fire of the war was the decision to resupply Fort Sumter. I think he should have said hey, South Carolina has a right to secede, and it doesn't make sense for the feds to own property there anymore, let them have Fort Sumter. I also think he had no idea what the human cost of War would be.

Lincoln did let the South secede peacefully. In fact South Carolina had seceded before he was inaugurated, and it was clear that more southern states would follow. In his inaugural address Lincoln said:

The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to collect the duties and imposts; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion, no using of force against or among the people anywhere. Where hostility to the United States in any interior locality shall be so great and universal as to prevent competent resident citizens from holding the Federal offices, there will be no attempt to force obnoxious strangers among the people for that object. While the strict legal right may exist in the Government to enforce the exercise of these offices, the attempt to do so would be so irritating and so nearly impracticable withal that I deem it better to forego for the time the uses of such offices. . . . In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to "preserve, protect, and defend it."

Lincoln kept his word; the Civil War did not begin because the US government attacked the South, rather the South attacked the US government. If the South had not attacked it seems clear that Lincoln would have worked to bring about a peaceful reversal of secession.
What a mighty fortress is willful ignorance.  :awgee:
Furthermore, what would the effect of the north holding political power be?
Would they make the south stop slavery perhaps?

By an act of Congress, I don't think so. 

By Presidential Proclamation (Executive Order), sure.  That is what the Emancipation Proclamation was, but it only applied to ten states under the War Powers Act.  It probably couldn't be challenged during the war (not really sure), but maybe could have been after hostilities ceased.  It took the 13th Amendment to actually end slavery in the U.S.

During peacetime the Emancipation Proclamation would basically have been unconstitutional. It was issued as a war measure by Lincoln in his capacity as Commander in Chief. See 10 Facts: The Emancipation Proclamation
And furthermore: Dave, why do you think the South was concerned about the North holding political power?

Why do you think the South should have had more power than the North?

Given that the South was given congressional (at 3/5) for the non-voting slaves, they had more power per voting citizen in the South than any voting citizen in the north.  Voting citizen being only white males.

Yeahbut TheYummyCod on said that "The South was being underrepresented in Congress," citing the completely trustworthy and unbiased Robert Rhett, so there.
 :hmm:  There will be plenty of scope for intellectual dishonesty once Dave Hawkins discovers that only four seceding states issued declarations of causes.  :happydance:
That  account is "protected" now. Franson got some rather negative reactions last month for tweeting anti-transgender bullshit. I guess she's got Trumpitis, and can't help herself from tweeting out stupid crap. As far as I've been able to learn this is something about high school students asking to meet with her, and being rebuffed.
Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
"shift NASA's resources" sounds like they want to cut science to pay for it.  manned spaceflight is great.  as long as it isn't taking money away from science.

guessing the first thing to go will be the lying climatologists.

yeah this seems plausible. it actually sounded kinda cool so i wasn't sure what the real horrible agenda actually is even though i knew there had to be one.

Cutting back on NASA's climate science work is more than likely part of this, but . . .

"Imagine the possibility waiting in those big beautiful stars if we dare to dream big. That's what our country is doing again, we're dreaming big," the president said, with Apollo 17 moonwalker Harrison Schmitt, Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin and other key space program officials looking on.

"This is a giant step toward that inspiring future and toward reclaiming America's proud destiny in space and space has so much to do with so many other applications including a military application."

Computers and Technology / Re: AI playing Go
DeepMind's AlphaZero is now trouncing chess and shogi programs, being "self-taught" in both.

"DeepMind's AI became a superhuman chess player in a few hours, just for fun" | The Verge

The end-game for Google's AI subsidiary DeepMind was never beating people at board games. It's always been about creating something akin to a combustion engine for intelligence -- a generic thinking machine that can be applied to a broad range of challenges. The company is still a long way off achieving this goal, but new research published by its scientists this week suggests they're at least headed down the right path.

In the paper, DeepMind describes how a descendant of the AI program that first conquered the board game Go has taught itself to play a number of other games at a superhuman level. After eight hours of self-play, the program bested the AI that first beat the human world Go champion; and after four hours of training, it beat the current world champion chess-playing program, Stockfish. Then for a victory lap, it trained for just two hours and polished off one of the world's best shogi-playing programs named Elmo (shogi being a Japanese version of chess that's played on a bigger board).

One of the key advances here is that the new AI program, named AlphaZero, wasn't specifically designed to play any of these games. In each case, it was given some basic rules (like how knights move in chess, and so on) but was programmed with no other strategies or tactics. It simply got better by playing itself over and over again at an accelerated pace -- a method of training AI known as "reinforcement learning."

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That brief mention doesn't do credit to shogi, which is a fascinating game in which captured pieces become essentially "paratroops" for the capturing side.
An interesting serendipity-- "Shortey" is damn close to "short eyes" which is prison slang for pedophiles. May he enjoy his stay in the hoosegow.
Bloomberg has corrected its story of the 5th. Now says that Deutsche Bank has provided financial records of people associated with Trump.  :dunno:

Corrects story published Dec. 5 that said Mueller "zeroed in" on Trump's business dealings.