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Hi, Dave. Are you badgering or franoogling?

 :badger:
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But you running a couple goats on ten acres of prime arable land tells us nothing about whether your system will work anywhere else on the planet.
Or if it can be adapted to a significant portion of the Earth's land, or how to adapt it, and what global consequences could follow such adoption.
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Oh, and, your repeated "explanations" are vague and unsupported assertions which boil down to "you gotta adapt it to your needs [1], but you have nothing to offer beyond that.
Not a real quote.
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You claim one size doesn't fit all but there's good reason to believe it's one size fits one... you. You can't offer anything to people in different environments, cultures, and circumstances.

Wanna claim you do? Be extremely specific. If you need a specific case, a rural Swede.
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Republicans Invent 'Release The Memo' To Distract From...Everything.  Quoting Susan Hennessey:

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[The memo] appears to be some loose collection of Nunes's individual unfounded allegations related to unmasking, not clearly even endorsed by his fellow Republicans, now being seized on by opportunists looking for a Hail Mary to try to tank the 702 bill before Trump signs it.

I have no clue what game Nunes is playing at but this has nothing to do with 702. Furthermore, no one is "releasing" anything without an executive branch classification review. Even for four pages, that's a multi-week endeavor.

My prediction is that after causing completely unnecessary chaos today, this memo will be released in some redacted from in a few weeks and prove to be an utter embarrassment to Nunes personally, the HPSCI majority, and frankly to US House of Representatives

Um, er, obvs!



Dave?
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Depending on how many goats you had, it could tell you:

How much more or less often your goats were sick (and if it were statistically significant)
How much more or less milk was produced (and if that were statistically significant)
Whether the milk included more or less essential nutrients (and if it were statistically significant)
Etc.
the milk nutrient analysis would be interesting and I hope to do that at some point. I have already begun doing something along those lines by having my pasture grasses tested. But my goats have never been sick except for one time for about 24 hours and I already know that was my fault and I immediately corrected the problem. So what would I even track?
You would track the illnesses of a statistically significant number over a longer time.

As for milk quantity, I already have a very good feel for how it goes with each lactation and I'm quite happy with it so why should I keep any more detailed records?
Because nobody will ever give a shit if you're satisfied. What they want to know is a best estimate of what they can get.

Duh.
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Hypothesis:  My goats will produce milk just fine on forage alone - no grain - and will be healthy and happy and get pregnant and have kids each year with no meds.

Observation:  They are

Conslusion:  Maybe you don't need grain or meds after all, like the grain companies and vets want you to believe.
Why the sudden "maybe"? Is it finally sinking in that what you have done cannot be generalized?
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Republicans Invent 'Release The Memo' To Distract From...Everything.  Quoting Susan Hennessey:

Quote
[The memo] appears to be some loose collection of Nunes's individual unfounded allegations related to unmasking, not clearly even endorsed by his fellow Republicans, now being seized on by opportunists looking for a Hail Mary to try to tank the 702 bill before Trump signs it.

I have no clue what game Nunes is playing at but this has nothing to do with 702. Furthermore, no one is "releasing" anything without an executive branch classification review. Even for four pages, that's a multi-week endeavor.

My prediction is that after causing completely unnecessary chaos today, this memo will be released in some redacted from in a few weeks and prove to be an utter embarrassment to Nunes personally, the HPSCI majority, and frankly to US House of Representatives

Um, er, obvs!


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I'm open to suggestions... For a new thread title which is not so preachy. You said this one was too preachy.
I realize that some believe there is an extra hot place in hell for hypocrites, so it might be tricky, but how about
"I'm sorry I said woo-hoo. Complain here."

but I'm not sorry I said woohoo. In that context it was appropriate.
are all nazis also MRA types?

I don't think you have to be, but it does help
Or incels. Fine group of fellas. Banned at Reddit. Dave should join.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.

Your thinker is completely borked, Dave.

A straw floor with a wood stove IS dangerous. And the longer you used a wood stove with a straw floor, the drier your straw would become, and the more likely a stray spark or ember would smoulder long enough to start a fire. That, buddy, is a fact. It's also a fact that I don't want you to die in a fire for real. Which is why I nagged you about your chimney and advised you on better woodstove management.
We just moved back into our house after almost a year.

First a small fire in the wall around the chimney. After 40+ years the framing was so dry it ignited from the heat from the chimney.

Then asbestos in the popcorn ceilings and wallboard joint compound.

Then months of the moronic insurance company's adjuster, way out of his depth, trying get us to accept a quote riddled with errors and omissions.

Then the insurance company sat on a quote from a real contractor for a month.

Then three months of rebuilding.

One test of flammability in one situation cannot be generalized.

(The house is awesome, much better than before. Especially an all-new kitchen and foam insulation in most of the house. Can you tell which part still has fiberglass?)

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If you did in fact make that calculation and I used your number exactly without modifying it, then what's the problem?
Same problem you {falsely} accused others of just a few hours ago.

Another way of putting it is that you quote mined me. You took one snippet of my post out of context and focused on it and by doing so added your own meaning which didn't exist in my original post.
One snippet of his post out of context.

Added your own meaning which didn't exist in the original post.

Duh.
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Congressional Republicans are claiming another bombshell here within the last 2 hours...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/breaking-rep-gaetz-calls-congress-release-shocking-secret-fisa-memo-threatens-democracy-core-video/
Hoft is widely known as the stupidest man on the Internet. He even beats you.

He's never right.
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The conclusion I draw is that Dave feels enabled/validated by people calling him out - probably because no-one else with a brain takes  a blind bit of notice of anything he says.
That's why he's here. Goats and rubes are not great conversationalists, and just agreeing with the local fascists is not very rewarding.
I've posted several times the reasons why I post here but it wouldn't hurt to say it again.

1) I like writing about the things I do. For me it's a sort of whiteboard to test ideas.
2) sometimes I get good ideas and good criticism from you people.
3) I get free science papers
4) I enjoy the study in psychology.
5) watching people with Advanced Science degrees say stupid things is rather entertaining
In other words, even though it is a DISCUSSION board, you have no actual intention of DISCUSSING anything. 

Got it.
number one and number two involve discussion. You are spinning and misrepresenting and lying again.
No, they do not involve discussion.

Writing about things you do is proselytizing. If you responded meaningfully to other's responses that would be discussion. You don't do that.  lol is not discussion.

Similarly, gleaning what you think are good ideas is not discussion. Discussing why they are good ideas would be, well, discussion. You don't do that.

Running away from anything that threatens your fantasies especially when you raised the subject in the first place, is not discussion. R. H. Brown, anyone?
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Likewise if you had wanted to be 100% honest about the goats climbing trees thing you could have said something like this ...

"Hey Dave why don't you let your goats wander around in the woods to get some browse in their diet? I know you tried that at one point. What's the deal? Was it too hard to navigate around the trees? Or what?"

And I would have responded like "yeah it's too hard moving them around on the forest floor and besides my trees need pruning anyway so it's a lot easier to just manage the goats in the pasture and cut and carry limbs to give them browse. Plus they don't need browse in their diet to be healthy anyway, so it's just a bonus."
That would be dishonest, and would be avoiding the point.
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You guys already know about the record setting Dow Jones, the low unemployment numbers for blacks and hispanics, the bonuses being given to tons and tons of employees due to the tax cut and the record setting holiday sales numbers ...

What you may NOT know is which companies are in fact moving (back) to USA production ... and the official reasons given by the companies themselves (not by Trump) for moving back ...

This article lists those ...

https://www.gobankingrates.com/making-money/companies-reinvested-america-following-trumps-election/
A more honest - non quote miney - response to this post would have been something like this...

" oh yeah Dave that's interesting to see companies that are bringing jobs back to the USA and see what they say for themselves about why they are doing it.  One thing though... Are you of the opinion that the record setting stock market is all because of Donald Trump?"

THAT would be a 100% honest response.
The inference that you ascribed the stock market to Trump is unavoidable. Stupid, but unavoidable.

You ignored my post on the jobs.

Remind me... how many layoffs at AT&T?
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It's always the same story.
There is no dishonesty.
It's just a Raging Narcissist inferring that X posting Y
"makes it look like Z" 
where Z = whatever conflicts with Raging Narcissist's self-righteous, self-congragulatory, self-stroking beliefs.
It would be a good exercise FOR YOU to figure why every single participant in this thread considers YOU to be the dishonest one.


Also "subtle dishonesty" usually turns out to be Dave interpolating stuff that nobody actually said, but he thinks were "implied" by the post.".
But obvious and unavoidable inferences from what he writes, such as his stock market moronicity, are strictly verboten and dishonest
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You are making it sound like I said ... Look at the record stock market. It's all because of Donald Trump!

But of course that's not what I said at all. So it's dishonest to characterize me that way.
That's what you strongly implied, any native English speaker would read it that way.

You just don't have the stones to admit you made an incredibly stupid remark.

As usual.

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Dave, your implication that only some species of goats can climb trees is in any case beside the point.
Dave seems to be forgetting "goats are goats" in the context of that study of non-dairy goats.
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You guys already know about the record setting Dow Jones, the low unemployment numbers for blacks and hispanics, the bonuses being given to tons and tons of employees due to the tax cut and the record setting holiday sales numbers ...

What you may NOT know is which companies are in fact moving (back) to USA production ... and the official reasons given by the companies themselves (not by Trump) for moving back ...

This article lists those ...

https://www.gobankingrates.com/making-money/companies-reinvested-america-following-trumps-election/
I notice they lie about Carrier. It was 800 jobs, not 1,100,and those 800 are being laid off.

The Ford bit is a lie too. Most of the investment was committed in 2015 in labor negotiations.

Not a trustworthy source.
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You guys already know about the record setting Dow Jones, the low unemployment numbers for blacks and hispanics, the bonuses being given to tons and tons of employees due to the tax cut and the record setting holiday sales numbers ...

What you may NOT know is which companies are in fact moving (back) to USA production ... and the official reasons given by the companies themselves (not by Trump) for moving back ...

This article lists those ...

https://www.gobankingrates.com/making-money/companies-reinvested-america-following-trumps-election/
So what does this have to do with "Some heads are gonna roll" ?  :dunno:

Or do you agree this is now just the "Dave Hawkins Cheerleading for Trump" thread?
To my mind it is just one more item that makes it less likely that you and Pingu's prediction that Trump will not be in office next year more unlikely.
Did you notice that AT&T is giving bonuses and laying off 11,000 and using most of the savings to buy back stock so the 1% can be worth much more?

And Carrier is laying off the jobs Trump "saved" in fall 2016?

And the stock market is following the trend Obama established with nothing done by Trump?
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No explanation for diversity of species?

"The Origin of Species".

You don't like the explanation.

Too bad.

Reality is not affected by your ignorant preferences.
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He'll never give up on his warped "close to Nature" fantasy.
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Gosh, they're acting like goat! Who'da thunk?