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Oh well.  I guess by some definition I'm a crypto-fascist.  But, by other definitions I'm a racist, a sexist, etc.  It doesn't bother me.
Exactly.

A dick and proud of it.
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eta: like, the root words of it in latin mean "to move away from one's race" and it has connotations of immorality because the fist people to throw the word around were real concerned about race treason, racial purity, etc.

 I've been perfectly clear on how I'm using the word.  I mean, most antifa goons are fucking white, a product of white liberal education systems. You can't get any whiter than a 100 pound girl with dreadlocks bragging about collecting her Nazi scalps, throwing glass bottles at people, then getting her head kicked in, and then everyone finding out she's actually a porn actress.  That's fucking peak white person. I'd call her a degenerate.  And a fucking idiot.

As far as who makes up these groups, I find their views repellent and antithetical to living in a free society, and most of them are authoritarians in waiting.  Many of the sub groups that associate or march with Antifa are equally disgusting to me (black bloc, certain BLM groups, anarchists, radical feminists, actual communists, etc).  Their actions and views are immoral and misanthropic, and that's the word I use.


citations required.
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I have measured. I have compared. Anything else I'm missing?

How did you measure?  Where are your measurements? What things did you compare?
I measured milk production. I've listed it here in detail by month.
Where?


Mainly I compared the Health and Welfare and happiness of my goats with goats I've had in the past and with goats I know of in my area. 
Not a particularly notable basis.

Mine are in perfect health, have a good body condition, get pregnant and kid normally, have good milk production, and don't require any kind of medications whatsoever.
Has anyone else offered an opinion of the health of your goats, given you have a negative credibility?

Everyone else in my area complains of problems with parasites unless they medicate. 
Citations?

They also give vaccinations I suppose as a preventative. I myself had a goat died on me one time and I have no idea why.
Really?

I just chalked it up to some sort of sickness related to the traditional ways of keeping goats
  Of course, it couldn't possibly be a result of your care.
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I have measured. I have compared. Anything else I'm missing?
So what are your initial measurements and for what, and what are your measurements now?

The lack of a responses is indicative of not having taking measurements in the first place.
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The energy required to make Dave look stupid is small enough to require MIT level of expertise to measure.
No energy at all is required, it's spontaneous. Self-energizing.

So, you're saying his stupidity has reached critical mass.
No, and it probably never will. Too much reality in the environment.

Such absorb both idioarks and stupidons.
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Fairly simple solution to the national debt, simply indict and convict Chase and other banks that participated with the Nazis and nationalize them. There goes a lot of it.

Then to fix Social Security, change the law so loans from the SS fund are not involuntary but require the approval of an independent oversight committee and that any and all interest on those loans is paid back into the SS fund rather than the General Fund or covered by additional government bonds.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.
I see. It's also totally fine to have your chimney exit inside your attic.
Certainly, if you want to be a martyr. And that's a major aspect of Bluffy's victimhood.

Tbf, I doubt he seriously wants to go up in flames with his home, and he does have some urge toward self-preservation. Notably, he took advice to reduce cresote production and produce more heat, and eventually moved his chimney (I think).

If you've never encountered a serious chimney fire, or even a little one, you might be less inclined to take them seriously - after all, most people assume such a fire would be confined to a fireproof chimney.

However, if you've seen blue flamelets spurting between chimney bricks in your kitchen while the whole thing is roaring like a freight train, and shortly after go outdoors to view the 2 metre tall pillar of flame emerging above your roof, the issue of creosote and chimney safety takes on a whole new urgency.*

*So lucky. VFD having their monthly meeting less than a km. away, house once belonged to mother of fire chief, so he knew exactly where it was. That was 30 years ago. Very vivid memory.
My daughter was up in the mountains on a ski trip with friends, staying in a very nice cabin, an A-Frame. Sometime during the night, those on the upper floors smelled smoke, and woke everyone. They barely escaped with their pajamas on and some blankets, the cabin was gone before the fire department got there.  The problem, creosote in the flue and an inadequate separation of the flue from the structure.

Sure, excess creosote in the flue is not really common, though it happens often enough, but usually the separation, either air space or non-flammable construction intervenes. So, no worries. Just go to sleep. It's all OK. The flames are your fate in hell.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.

I placed a glowing coal on some straw and it caught fire in about 5 seconds.  What does that tell us then Dave?
That you lied, or, perhaps, you were taking hallucinatory drugs and simply imagined the whole thing. You probably shoplift and prostitute yourself to support your LSD habit.
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You asked me how I would spot propaganda. I told you. I even gave you a concrete example from my very own experience. Now I'd like to hear you give a coherent response instead of falling victim to the mountainous clouds of squid ink being dispensed right now.

I don't think you did.  You don't seem to have a concept corresponding to "methodology".  Whenever you are asked how you do things, you respond with what you did.


yes I realize that but unfortunately I don't have the financial resources to increase N to 10 or 100 or 1000 or to do all these other rigorous things that you want me to do. But that does not mean that I'm not doing science. This is why I keep saying that you have too narrow a definition of science.
Yes it does.
If someone approached you with a "cure-all" patent medication of their own creation, and swore holy heaven it would cure anything, after all they had tried it on themselves and that they are there and healthy is proof of it's effectiveness, would you accept that? Would you buy the potion?

Or would you want some additional support, like field tests on more than the salesman and, perhaps, his family?

The lack of ability, financial or otherwise, or even that such would be adverse to sales or whatever, to substantiate your claims does not reduce that liability. That you would think so is just another reason why you suck at science.

Just another aspect of why Bluffy the Salesman doesn't even understand sales. Just another example of his failing to even recognize his own bias.
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: No matter how transparently pathetic or retarded any of Dave's claims may be they can always be followed by something even more pathetic and retarded.



You would think, that in a finite universe, there would be a limit to that statement.

So far no though.
Seventh Law: No matter how transparently pathetic or retarded any of Dave's claims may be they can always be followed by something even more pathetic and retarded.
Is inviolate.
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And in whose interest is it to promulgate the "propaganda" that straw is flammable?
Who - other than haters here - is pushing that insidious lie?
Borealis. To try to make me look stupid and her smart.

No.  You look stupid because you ARE stupid.  While it's true that people tend to look smarter than you when they point that out, that's epiphenomenal.  People point it out partly because it's a DISCUSSION board, and partly, in this case, because we don't actually want you to die in a fire.
Speak for yourself.

I personally believe it would be a fitting end to Bluffy's career. I've always liked instances when one is hoisted upon their own petard.
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The energy required to make Dave look stupid is small enough to require MIT level of expertise to measure.
No energy at all is required, it's spontaneous. Self-energizing.
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I see. It's also totally fine to have your chimney exit inside your attic.

When your attic is open on both ends it's probably fine.
No.

Your argument is similar to stating that since fires are relatively rare, it's OK to block some of the exits. Because fires are relatively rare and if everyone cooperates the other exits will be sufficient.

How about when you're the last in line?
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Ok. How about just explaining how to spot propaganda. Are there any tell tale signs that you're experiencing propaganda? Easy ways to recognize it?
I'll give you an example related to the topic of this thread. Commercial grain and dairy goats.  Almost everyone I know who owns Dairy goats says that you have to give them grain to keep them healthy. Propaganda? Or truth? How do we tell? By observation, just as you stated. Well guess what my observations have been over the past two years? They have been that this idea about Dairy goats and Grains is a myth. Propaganda. And it makes sense because grain is something you have to BUY which of course makes it in the interest of the people who sell it to promote the myth. See how that works?
I'm not really sure you've isolated the only important factor through that sort of logic. I mean, milk production is one of those pretty observable sorts of things. BTW, are your milk goats the type where the tips of their tails is bald(ish)?
I didn't say I have isolated the only important factor. I said that I've determined the "dairy goats need grain" schtick to be a myth. And I did so by observation, which includes observation of milk output.
Which you didn't record. So we have only your post-event recollections.

Sorry, not science. Propaganda.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.
I see. It's also totally fine to have your chimney exit inside your attic.
Certainly, if you want to be a martyr. And that's a major aspect of Bluffy's victimhood.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.
Except that one instance when they did.

Which makes your claims propoganda.
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Ok. How about just explaining how to spot propaganda. Are there any tell tale signs that you're experiencing propaganda? Easy ways to recognize it?
I'll give you an example related to the topic of this thread. Commercial grain and dairy goats.  Almost everyone I know who owns Dairy goats says that you have to give them grain to keep them healthy. Propaganda? Or truth? How do we tell? By observation, just as you stated. Well guess what my observations have been over the past two years? They have been that this idea about Dairy goats and Grains is a myth. Propaganda. And it makes sense because grain is something you have to BUY which of course makes it in the interest of the people who sell it to promote the myth. See how that works?
Did you buy straw bales? Tarps? An iPhone? Propane? Gasoline for the Volvo replacement? Fast Food? Goats? Chain Saws? Internet? Microfibre blankets? A Wood Stove? Clothing? Solar Panels? The bible? HMG? Batteries? Sex? Sheep?
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And the REASON it's wrong is because most of what you read involves SELLING SOMETHING in some way.

SALES drives so much error in our world today.  And most selling is based on half truths, spin and manipulation.

Besides everything else, not all salesmen work like you do.
Also, that isn't even a reason. It's an unconnected claim. The reason X is wrong is ___
Where it might as well say "because Mikey likes it".
I knew Mikey, and he did like it.
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What The Fuck Dave. :smug:
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Choose your feed wisely.
Lactating does and does in late pregnancy have higher nutritional needs than dry does, wethers, or bucks. They will need supplemental feed beyond grass hay and browse in order to maintain their body condition and produce milk. Alfalfa, which is technically a legume and not a grass, is needed for them to meet their bodies' high demand for calcium. Some areas of the country can find alfalfa hay, but it can be difficult to find in some locations. In my location, the best source for alfalfa is in pellet form or Chaffhaye. Choose a brand with pellets that have a low amount of dust and a good green color (not a dull brownish shade). I prefer Standlee brand alfalfa pellets.
Lactating does also need some amount of grain. Grain will be a small portion of the diet, because while the does will only receive grain once or twice a day on the milk stand, they will be eating browse or hay all day long. Supplementing an animal with grain when it makes sense and is necessary is not going to be detrimental to the animal or to you; in fact, it will be beneficial because it will keep the animal in good condition and support a higher level of production. This is not the same as sticking your goats on dry lot and feeding them nothing but grain, which will definitely impact the health of the animal and the quality of the milk.
You should still choose good sources of grain. I prefer to stay away from soy, and so I have transitioned my girls from a premade goat pellet to a hand made mix. I am loosely following the recipe #3 on the Land of Havilah website. I recommend staying away from soy for a number of reasons, but if mixing your own is out of the question for you, you can look for soy-free brands. If this is also impossible for you, avoid sweet feeds with high molasses contents and provide a pellet formulated for goats.

ETA: Dave, you suck at reading and science.

They are wrong.

Most of what you read about Animal Science is wrong.

In fact, most of what you read in the much broader category of Life Sciences is wrong.

And you know this how?
Bluffy wants to believe it.
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And the REASON it's wrong is because most of what you read involves SELLING SOMETHING in some way.

SALES drives so much error in our world today.  And most selling is based on half truths, spin and manipulation.
Oh, Bluffy, you need not confess your sins to us.
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Also I think I am doing a service to humanity by warning people about blind guides like you.
well that's pretty delusional since every single reader of your words here seems to think Pingu is a pretty good scientist, that you suck at it, and that you are a complete asshole into the bargain.
So truth is determined by majorities?
Truth is determined by observation. :)
That's better. Thank you for acknowledging that.
But a single observation by a single highly biased observer does not overwhelm the multiple observations of multiple observers, especially when those all tend to agree and disagree with the single observation of the single observer with significant bias.

But your bias is your bias, and highly informed by your biases and your militantly ignorant narcissistic DK personality.
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Not this thread title. The saving agriculture thread. It would sure would be nice if you guys would read as well as you think you do.
This is the extra preachy one. But how about "How to drink lost of goats milk for cheap (and dream of saving the world)" for the other one?
Nah
If your priority was: less preachy, it's still better, no?
Part of me feels like we all NEED to be preached at a bit for a topic that's this important.  I mean think about it ... we're talking about our very existence as a human race ... our very ability to feed ourselves.  Yeah it's that important.  Why not preach about it a bit?  I WANT people to get energized ... Coaches preach to their athletes about far less important matters.  Why?  To stir their emotions so they will wake up and do something useful for the cause.
It helps immeasurably to support your preaching with evidence. You, like most preachers, fail to do so or when you attempt such, you fail miserably. Primarily because you can't get past the preaching habit and there's often a major issue with self-promotion.

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My criticism was that you don't read as well as you think you do. And that seems to be correct in light of your comment here...
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Dave?  You continually get busted posting articles that don't mean what you thing they do!
You back yourself into a corner, like the supplementary feed needed by dairy goats, and what do you do?
You stagger in and post a passage that's three font sizes larger, which talks about the dietary needs of hair sheep.

Less than a few hours after Pingu carefully explained, multiple times, why dairy goats need extra protein.

I wonder often where you would find yourself in a standard reading test?  Sixth or seventh grade?

Out of respect for the handicapped, most test administrators would not, for ethical reasons, subject Bluffy to such a test. There's no need to rub salt into the wounds.
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I find it extraordinary that Dave, who knows perfectly well that he often selects small extracts from other people's posts, without using the quote function, thus breaking the link to the original, and often not even bothering to quote correctly - indeed sometimes placing words they did not write, and actually putting them in quotation marks - has the nerve to accuse me of "quotemining" by quoting only part of his post (using the quote function btw) - and "implying" something he did not write, even though the context DOES in fact, imply it, and even though in any case, I implied no such thing - I  simply asked him to compare the same metric as he was citing for Trump's period office to Obama's.

To which he replied

Don't know. Don't care.

Then accused me of dishonesty when I provided some data.

The hypocrisy is meter-blowing.

no it's not. It's just that you don't understand what an actual quote mine is. Just like you don't understand what reductionism is. And I'm tempted to say just as you don't know what science is but that would be going a bit too far because I think you do understand some aspects of science it's just that your view of science is far too narrow.
I find it extraordinary that Dave, who knows perfectly well that he often selects small extracts from other people's posts, without using the quote function, thus breaking the link to the original, and often not even bothering to quote correctly - indeed sometimes placing words they did not write, and actually putting them in quotation marks - has the nerve to accuse me of "quotemining" by quoting only part of his post (using the quote function btw) - and "implying" something he did not write, even though the context DOES in fact, imply it, and even though in any case, I implied no such thing - I  simply asked him to compare the same metric as he was citing for Trump's period office to Obama's.

To which he replied

Don't know. Don't care.

Then accused me of dishonesty when I provided some data.

The hypocrisy is meter-blowing.

no it's not. It's just that you don't understand what an actual quote mine is. Just like you don't understand what reductionism is. And I'm tempted to say just as you don't know what science is but that would be going a bit too far because I think you do understand some aspects of science it's just that your view of science is far too narrow.
Did you not take notice of the common definition of "quote mine" I provided?
I could do the same for "reductionism" and "science" and pretty much every davinition you've ever come up with.

The point is, Bluffy, there is a real world out here and it uses definitions for words. That you believe your davinitions should prevail is simply a symptom of your militantly ignorant narcissistic DK posterboy mindset. And, perhaps, one reason you have so much trouble communicating with others.