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"The facts" in this context always refer to some tangential detail that can be blamed instead of lack of gun control.  Here, it is going to be that he was a troubled, mentally disturbed person. 
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Here in Our Lady of Blades, we firmly believe in each and every child's fundamental right to be free- Specifically, free to play with sharp and pointy things. Access to anything from files and scissors to knives and hatchets is facilitated, everywhere throughout the institution grounds. A child can get, say, a knife, simply by asking the authorized personnel (who will register the child's name and type of instrument they received), or they can get one by themselves (one can find many under tables, behind sofas or inside lunch boxes)- although the latter is not encouraged.

Either way, we go into great lengths to ensure proper and wise use of those instruments during playtime or other activities. Here, you can see a member of staff showing a boy the right way to swing a cutlass while playing Pirates Vs. Ninjas. Being Free does not mean one should not be responsible!

That is not to say, however, that there are no accidents. Those have been, I regret to say, somewhat common, although the trend has stabilized in recent years. But here in Our Lady of Blades, we believe that a sore, a scar of a missing finger or two are a small price to pay for experiencing True Freedom- Something no other institution can boast of.
And of course, any lack of safety from accidents is, we think, clearly mitigated by the overall increased protection from outside dangers. Incidents of harrassment or kidnappings have been virtually non-existent in our institution- Who in their right mind would attempt to maliciously approach a group of toddlers holding katanas and machettes? We are proud to say that the local police department has never received a report specifically for such an incident from our grounds.

Instances of "school pranks" and other types of bullying, that are a real plague to other schools, stations and facilities of our type, are also mostly absent from Or Lady of Blades. Children tend to think twice before 'pulling a fast one' on the new kid as he's sitting in his bed and sharpening his Kukri... After all, performing a noogie requires both hands, and leaves the abdomen wide open.

Now, it is true that, sometimes (but only SOME times) things might get worse. There have been some isolated... incidents, in which it was clearly demonstrated that discouragement of improper use is not enough to prevent careless, violent and dangerous outbursts- Especially when dealing with a derangement of psyche and mind. I regret to say that, on occasion, confusion and anger has led to serious bodily harm and loss of, er, vitality among our children... But in understanding the causes of the problem, we have formulated a practical solution which does not deprive anyone from their innate freedom.

In most of the incidents, the perpetrators had previously shown 'erratic' behavior of various sorts- Ranging from violent tendencies and fantasies to self-isolation and diverse improper conduct. Realizing we had to get to the root of the issue, we have established a complex system of aquiring information that detects and isolates any and all cases of such 'erratic behavior' when it first occurs.
 Special facilities have been modified in the grounds, from the basement to the attic and even the woodshed in the back yard, that effectively contain, secure and protect those poor children- restricting their access to normal facilities and assets within the grounds, and keeping them Safe from themselves.

While a significant drop in the frequency of relevant incidents is yet to be detected, the ever-increasing number of contained children is a clear marker of the effectiveness of the measure- Even if available space remains an issue, and plans for the use of the abandoned sawmill nearby are in effect. Either way, our Administration always remains firm in their effort to keep Our Lady of Blades a haven of Freedom, as well as Safety.

Souls for Arioch, Blood for the Black Sword.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-school-shooting-address-today-live-stream-updates/

I'm curious as to what the motherfucker is going to say now.

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I have data and I have projections. I've always been clear about which are which because that's the honest, scientific thing to do.

Some people here claim that I am dishonest, but that's not true. They claim that because they themselves are dishonest and that will become increasingly clear as time passes.

It is true, Dave.  Only recently you posted a photograph purporting to be of refugees fleeing Caracas to make a point against cities, but it wasn't a photograph of refugees fleeing Caracas at, all.  It was a lie.

More profoundly, you are intellectually dishonest, or else really really stupid.  You claim to be unable to understand really simple arguments that everyone else can understand, and use that as an excuse to dismiss them.  Yet you can never pinpoint what is actually wrong with the argument.

And you frequently, either through dishonesty or stupidity, conflate model with data.  As in this instance when you compare your own projections for your own land with (alleged) actual data from Haugen, to make a point about how you versus me would produce food on some unspecified island with unspecified ecosystem or climate.

That is so profoundly silly that you are either a complete idiot or...dishonest.
No it wasn't a lie.  I actually thought I read that they were fleeing Caracas ... maybe I was wrong.  Doesn't matter.  My point was a good point regardless.  Venezuelans are too dependent on "the system" and now they are paying the price.

As for "simple arguments" people make that I supposedly can't understand ... not the case ... you are the one that's intellectually dishonest or stupid.

Case in point ... your latest ridiculous assertion that I don't understand Greg Judy's keys to success.  I read your reasoning and it was shit.  But you can't see that.

If someone else had done it, you would have called them a liar.

But YOU did it, so "whatever... doesn't matter".

What a joke you are.
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For the same reason he had lied about those "different angles in the canyon", way back.

It's not really a lie if he says it.
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Dave, you only recently told us that you haul water for your animals from town every day. At least I had never heard of it until then.
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Are you insane? That would only take away people's freedom!!!11

Turning everyone in a community into a snitch, however, and meticulously reporting any and all "bad and erratic behavior" to the proper "authorities", is clearly the way to go in a truly FREE society.
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Hey dave, seems like your Glorious Leader has found the reason for the horrible shooting yesterday, and has pinpointed the solution:

"Bad and erratic behavior" must be "always reported to authorities, again and again!".

...


Now dave, I'm sure you've read Left Behind. Tell me: does the above sound like Gerald Fitzhugh, or Nicolae Carpathia?
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Meh. Just ingenious optimization of biological machinery through man-made contraptions. Right dave?
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I'd pick borealis and testy.  Maybe Faid for broken bones.

And the seeds I'd ask for would include flax and/or hemp (that'll bring testy on board).
How many man-hours per day will your program require for feeding everyone?

I don't know, Dave.
I know you don't know. But it's worth thinking about. If you are as proficient as Walter Haugen then each person will spend about 2 hours every day producing 2000 calories per day. If one person is really energetic and needs 3,000 calories per day then that person will spend three hours per day.

Meanwhile, over on my Island, each person will spend only about one hour every 3 days on a rotation system.  :wave:

So you say.
If I said it in an Elsevier journal, would you believe it more?
I dunno, try it.
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We cannot do this island experiment in real life obviously... But this does give me an idea... What if we could do it via a computer simulation? Wouldn't that be awesome? I'm going to think about this and see if I can come up with a way to do this.
You want to beat a bunch of geeks at a video game? Have you thought this one through?
Literally lol'd.
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Say whatever you want. It won't change the fact that I'm doing good science. Science which is much more useful than the kind you do. You might say that I'm democratizing science. People like you are actually enemies of science because you restrict it to such a narrow definition that only a few Elite scientists with fancy Science degrees can do science. And of course that's a lie because anyone can do science. Even kindergarteners. And they should. You are just like the papist clergy of Martin Luther's day who  said that the common people were too stupid to read the Bible in their own language.

Wow.  You are one fucking confused individual.  You don't understand experimental controls, you don't even know how to measure for comparison, you seem to think science is just a common sense confirmation of what you already believe to be true.  Grow up, man.  Elementary school children here would see through your charade.
Go f*** yourself.

What would be really fun is if Donald Trump was as bad as you people say he is and he issued a dictatorial order that all posters at talk rational were immediately exiled to one of two islands for the next five years ... Dave Hawkins would be the governor of one... And one of you people - Pingu for example - would be the governor at the other one.  Each of you  would be allowed to pick who's Island you want to live on and of course you would be initially stocked with whatever livestock and garden seeds and tools and so forth that you would need. But you only get one chance to pick and you only get one chance to buy supplies. Then you are stuck there for 5 years.  Who would you pick?
Here you go with your domination fantasies again, dave.

You really should look into that.
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One mistake you guys consistently make is in thinking or pretending that I am doing some sort of science experiment to prove to myself or to you all that the principles of HMG do indeed work.

I'm not.

The principles have already been proven. And it doesn't matter whether you believe that or not.
Well, we know it doesn't matter to you.

But tell me this: WHY do you think all the CONTRARY evidence against your "proven" principles can be dismissed? You handwave it all away as "garbage" and "propaganda". But WHY? WHY should there be a vast octohatter conspiracy, with multiple fake studies and garbage research, to disprove HMG? What is the MOTIVE?

Or does your conspiracy-theorizin' not go that deep?
I'm pulling a "socrates" here because I'm honestly curious about this, dave.

Let's take this 'Octohatter' (whose words I've linked to you before) as an example:
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In natural grazing ecosystems such as the Serengeti  or  the  Savuti  and  Makgadikgadi  systems  of  Botswana, animal  impact  is  rarely  achieved  by  grazing  in  tightly  bunched  herds.  I  have  rarely  seen  a  herd  of  zebra  or  buffalo  grazing  all  bunched  up,  they don't like it because it results in too much competition  for  food  and  so  they  spread out when they graze. The  percentage of  time  that  they  may  bunch  because  of  predators  amounts  to  fractions  of  a  percentage  of  total  time.  In  reality  animal  impact  is  determined  by  movement  patterns,  the  total  area  available  for  grazing  and  the  amount  of  time  that  animals  spend  in  an  that  area  over  the  season  (number  of  hooves/unit area/unit  time;  more  time  =  more  hoof  impact,  less  area  to  range  over  =  more  hoof impact, e.g. McNaughton 1985) such  that  even  one  or  two  cows  can  create better animal  impact  when  kept  in  an  a small  area  all  season  than  a  herd  of  500 cows that passes through for a short time. 
    Ranchers  who  attempt  to  force  their cattle to stay in densely bunched herds all the    time    are    creating    an    unnatural situation  that  is  going  to  negatively impact    upon    animal    production    and profits. However  considering  the  costs  of fencing  and  its  maintenance  and  the  need for  flexible  grazing,  I  do  believe  in  a planned  herding  approach  to  keep  the cattle  in  the  areas  that  one  wants  them  to be  and  if  really  necessary  to  bunch  them on    rare    occasions    to    achieve    some objective.
http://grassland.org.za/publications/grassroots/issues/august-2012/7%20201208%20Fynn.pdf

Now, according to YOUR version of reality, that person MUST be lying. There is no other possibility- Especially if your "proven principles" are to be taken as fact. But WHY would that person lie? He does not seem predisposed against HMG, and earnestly agrees with many aspects of it (even some that others dispute). So WHY this seemingly out-of-place lie?
Perhaps he is some kind of stooge, set up by whatever nefarious Octohatter Elite you think is supposedly working against Savory, and he wants to be more believable by mixing lies with the truth. But that wouldn't be enough. In fact, IF the truth of Savory's claims was "proven", all he would accomplish would be to have people question his expertise and credentials. There wouldn't be a shortage of others to come up and say "what's that guy talking about, it's a well-known fact that animals bunch up when they graze, I've seen it lots of times".

But no one does.

So, in YOUR reality (with Savory's claims being proven facts), we have a vast anti-HMG conspiracy setting up octohatters to lie, with the silent approval of ALL others with relevant knowledge. And all that for unstated, unspecified and unexplained reasons.

Dave, do you know what Reductio ad Absurdum is?

I don't expect you to respond to this thought exercise. But I'd appreciate it if you just gave it a thought.
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One mistake you guys consistently make is in thinking or pretending that I am doing some sort of science experiment to prove to myself or to you all that the principles of HMG do indeed work.

I'm not.

The principles have already been proven. And it doesn't matter whether you believe that or not.
Well, we know it doesn't matter to you.

But tell me this: WHY do you think all the CONTRARY evidence against your "proven" principles can be dismissed? You handwave it all away as "garbage" and "propaganda". But WHY? WHY should there be a vast octohatter conspiracy, with multiple fake studies and garbage research, to disprove HMG? What is the MOTIVE?

Or does your conspiracy-theorizin' not go that deep?
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I'm quite together.

The problem is with you all, not with me.

I think I've finally begun to zero in on the root problem with Scientists working in Life Sciences today.

Can be summed up I suppose as ...

"Science in a tiny box"

"Science defined far too narrowly"

"Only the 'Chosen Few' can do science"
The above post clearly shows that the problem is with you, and not "us all". You simply live in a different reality.
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You guys can keep asking the same questions over and over again six different ways from Sunday and the answers will all be the same. Welcome to holistic managed grazing!
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In his blog, Savory has thereafter argued that the scientific studies in the review, in fact, not at all can be applied on what he calls "Holistic Planned Grazing" and "Holistic Management" which includes much more than just grazing systems. He also believes that the complexity of the methods and that they are based on continuous adaptation make them difficult to study by traditional scientific methods that require demarcation and repeatability. This does not mean that the methods aren't built on and takes account of scientific knowledge.
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:facepalm:

You people...

Just.

Don't.

Get it.
'You're just mad bc we see through your bullshit.'
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You just made the same vague assertions using different words. Amazing.
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Say whatever you want. It won't change the fact that I'm doing good science. Science which is much more useful than the kind you do. You might say that I'm democratizing science. People like you are actually enemies of science because you restrict it to such a narrow definition that only a few Elite scientists with fancy Science degrees can do science. And of course that's a lie because anyone can do science. Even kindergarteners. And they should. You are just like the papist clergy of Martin Luther's day who  said that the common people were too stupid to read the Bible in their own language.
What a pitiful waste of words and time that post was.

You have a VERY distorted view of reality, dave. But I guess that's the kind of world you're fantasizing of living in (and saving).

A Superhero like yourself needs villains, otherwise the patches on his cape will start to show.
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It all comes round to teaching creationism to kids, I 'spose.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Meanwhile...

https://nypost.com/2018/02/13/trumps-lawyer-admits-paying-130k-to-stormy-daniels/

So Trump's personal lawyer says he paid the porn star $130,000 for some nefarious reason, and that neither Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign were involved in the transaction. Lol.

Remember when that kind of story was first page news, and not some minor footnote?
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