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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #25
lol

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #26
The thing about the "gorilla channel" is that it could so easily be true. If it had happened, it would be perfectly in character with what we know of Trump.
Truth is out of style

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #27
This is maybe the most shocking revelation so far in the Wolff saga:
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Another concern: Bannonworld worried that while Trump Jr. was a media punch line, he remained highly popular with the deplorables from his many appearances on the campaign trail. In a blood feud with Trump's son, Bannon might actually lose. "The base loves Don Jr.," an adviser said. And, in the early stages of the crisis, the Breitbart audience, Bannon's own constituency since before the president began his campaign, appeared to be siding with Trump.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/did-steve-bannon-talk-himself-out-of-his-own-movement

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #28
Not really. Given the base, it makes perfect sense.
Truth is out of style

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #29
The bizarro "like a dog" phrase making a solid comeback here:



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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #30
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
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Bannonarama

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but I find the headline for this video darkly humorous.

https://youtu.be/iRSyuKYM994

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but I find the headline for this video darkly humorous.

https://youtu.be/iRSyuKYM994

"Trump book author responds to government criticism."

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Michael Wolff Did What Every Other White House Reporter Is Too Cowardly to Do

https://www.gq.com/story/michael-wolff-white-house-trump-access

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I'm gonna begin this post with the same disclaimer that needs to come with every post about Michael Wolff, which is that Wolff is a fart-sniffer whose credibility is often suspect and who represents the absolute worst of New York media-cocktail-circuit inbreeding. But in a way, it's fitting that our least reliable president could finally find himself undone at the hands of one of our least reliable journalists.

All of Wolff's excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet...Wolff has audio. He's got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

And look how he did it. He did it by sleazily ingratiating himself with the White House, gaining access, hosting weird private dinners, and then taking full advantage of the administration's basic lack of knowledge about how reporting works. Some of the officials Wolff got on tape claim to be unaware that they were on the record. Wolff denies this, but he's very much up front in the book's intro about the fact that he was able to exploit the incredible "lack of experience" on display here. In other words, Wolff got his book by playing a bunch of naive dopes.

Thank God for that. Wolff has spent this week thoroughly exploiting Trump and his minions the same way they've exploited the cluelessness of others. And he pulled it off because, at long last, there was a reporter out there willing to toss decorum aside and burn bridges the same way Trump does.

Everyone around Donald Trump is too polite to Donald Trump. Democrats, foreign dignitaries, underlings... all of them. And the White House press is perhaps the worst offender. From the media pool playing along with Sarah Sanders during press conferences--conferences where Sanders openly lies and pisses on democracy--to access merchants like Maggie Haberman doling out Trump gossip like so many bread crumbs, too many reporters have been far too deferential to an administration that is brazenly racist, dysfunctional, and corrupt. And for what purpose? It's clear to me that Haberman and the like aren't saving up their chits for just the EXACT right time to bring this Administration down. No, the only end goal of their access is continued access, to preserve it indefinitely so that the copy spigot never gets shut off. They are abiding by traditional wink-wink understandings that have long existed between the government and the press covering it.

But Wolff didn't do that. He did not engage in some endless bullshit access tango. No, Wolff actually USED his access, and extended zero courtesy to Trump on the process, and it's going to pay off for him not just from a book sales standpoint, but from a real journalistic impact. I am utterly sick to death of hearing anonymous reports about people inside the White House "concerned" about the madman currently in charge of everything. These people don't deserve the courtesy of discretion. They don't deserve to dictate the terms of coverage to people. They deserve to be torched.

Trump ascended into power in part because he relied on other people being too nice. It's fun to rampage through the china shop when the china shop owner is standing over there being like, "SIR, that is not how we do things here!" If Trump refuses to abide by the standard (and now useless) "norms" of the presidency--shit, if he doesn't even KNOW them--why should ANYONE in the press adhere to needless norms of their own? They shouldn't, and it appears that Michael Wolff was one of the few people to instinctively grasp that, and I hope more White House insiders follow his lead. Sometimes you need a rat to catch a rat.

Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #35
That is awesome.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #36
Folks,

"... a rat to catch a rat."

That's lovely.  :clap:

D.

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #37
Great piece. I'll be spamming that around a bit. :cheer:
Truth is out of style

Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #38
Michael Wolff Did What Every Other White House Reporter Is Too Cowardly to Do

https://www.gq.com/story/michael-wolff-white-house-trump-access

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I'm gonna begin this post with the same disclaimer that needs to come with every post about Michael Wolff, which is that Wolff is a fart-sniffer whose credibility is often suspect and who represents the absolute worst of New York media-cocktail-circuit inbreeding. But in a way, it's fitting that our least reliable president could finally find himself undone at the hands of one of our least reliable journalists.

All of Wolff's excerpts from Fire & Fury so far (the book was rushed into stores today) read like jayvee fan fiction. They read like a pilot that Steve Bannon himself wrote, pitched to Hollywood, and had rejected 17 times over. They read, in short, like bullshit. And yet...Wolff has audio. He's got hours upon hours of audio. Not only that, but the book has already caused legitimate upheaval in the administration, opened a permanent rift between President Trump and Bannon, AND it confirms what we have all always known to be true: that the president severely lacks the cognitive ability to do this job, and that he is surrounded at all times by a cadre of enablers, dunces, and outright thieves. As much as I wanna discredit Wolff, he got receipts and, more important, he used them. Wolff got it all. Wolff nailed them.

And look how he did it. He did it by sleazily ingratiating himself with the White House, gaining access, hosting weird private dinners, and then taking full advantage of the administration's basic lack of knowledge about how reporting works. Some of the officials Wolff got on tape claim to be unaware that they were on the record. Wolff denies this, but he's very much up front in the book's intro about the fact that he was able to exploit the incredible "lack of experience" on display here. In other words, Wolff got his book by playing a bunch of naive dopes.

Thank God for that. Wolff has spent this week thoroughly exploiting Trump and his minions the same way they've exploited the cluelessness of others. And he pulled it off because, at long last, there was a reporter out there willing to toss decorum aside and burn bridges the same way Trump does.

Everyone around Donald Trump is too polite to Donald Trump. Democrats, foreign dignitaries, underlings... all of them. And the White House press is perhaps the worst offender. From the media pool playing along with Sarah Sanders during press conferences--conferences where Sanders openly lies and pisses on democracy--to access merchants like Maggie Haberman doling out Trump gossip like so many bread crumbs, too many reporters have been far too deferential to an administration that is brazenly racist, dysfunctional, and corrupt. And for what purpose? It's clear to me that Haberman and the like aren't saving up their chits for just the EXACT right time to bring this Administration down. No, the only end goal of their access is continued access, to preserve it indefinitely so that the copy spigot never gets shut off. They are abiding by traditional wink-wink understandings that have long existed between the government and the press covering it.

But Wolff didn't do that. He did not engage in some endless bullshit access tango. No, Wolff actually USED his access, and extended zero courtesy to Trump on the process, and it's going to pay off for him not just from a book sales standpoint, but from a real journalistic impact. I am utterly sick to death of hearing anonymous reports about people inside the White House "concerned" about the madman currently in charge of everything. These people don't deserve the courtesy of discretion. They don't deserve to dictate the terms of coverage to people. They deserve to be torched.

Trump ascended into power in part because he relied on other people being too nice. It's fun to rampage through the china shop when the china shop owner is standing over there being like, "SIR, that is not how we do things here!" If Trump refuses to abide by the standard (and now useless) "norms" of the presidency--shit, if he doesn't even KNOW them--why should ANYONE in the press adhere to needless norms of their own? They shouldn't, and it appears that Michael Wolff was one of the few people to instinctively grasp that, and I hope more White House insiders follow his lead. Sometimes you need a rat to catch a rat.

That is pretty close to how I've felt about this.  I acknowledge that this guy's credibility is not the greatest.  But at the same time, I love the fact that he is trolling the fuck out of them.

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #39
Miller thinks Bannon's back can fit another knife. Nobody seems to care about the reports that was planning to dispute Wolff's account.


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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #40
Wikileaks posts the full text of Wolff's book: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/367832-wikileaks-shares-full-text-of-wolffs-trump-book

could they be any more transparent

Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #41
"leaking" a published and copyrighted work lmao

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Re: Donald Trump Didn’t Want to Be President
Reply #42
"leaking" a published and copyrighted work lmao
But, hey!
Maybe if some people will read the pirated copy rather than buying the book, Trump's "loser" tweet-characterization of Wolff will look infinitesimally less retarded! 
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