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  • ksen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1075
so when self-styled liberals are supporting the removal or limiting of a right for people they disagree with,

Yeah, except that no one is actually doing this.

  • Pandora
  • Resurrected Robot
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1076
How many people have been threatened with violence in order to curtail their constitutionally protected rights?  How many incidents of property and personal violence have occurred as a result of a group of people trying to prevent someone from exercising their right to free speech?

Not nearly enough.
Yay!  That's one more person who supports rights-as-privileges for those you agree with, and who approves of the application of preemptive violence against those you disagree with. 
Just because you're unique doesn't mean you're useful.

  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1077
this thread is making me more supportive of preemptive violence tbh

  • Pandora
  • Resurrected Robot
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1078
so when self-styled liberals are supporting the removal or limiting of a right for people they disagree with,

Yeah, except that no one is actually doing this.
Ahh., so you disagree with the methods used to silence invited conservative speakers at college campuses via riot and threats of violence?
Just because you're unique doesn't mean you're useful.

  • ksen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1079
How many people have been threatened with violence in order to curtail their constitutionally protected rights?  How many incidents of property and personal violence have occurred as a result of a group of people trying to prevent someone from exercising their right to free speech?

Not nearly enough.
Yay!  That's one more person who supports rights-as-privileges for those you agree with, and who approves of the application of preemptive violence against those you disagree with. 


When we're talking about literal Nazis, then yeah.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1080
there are good communists. the only good nazi is a dead nazi.

  • ksen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1081
so when self-styled liberals are supporting the removal or limiting of a right for people they disagree with,

Yeah, except that no one is actually doing this.
Ahh., so you disagree with the methods used to silence invited conservative speakers at college campuses via riot and threats of violence?

No, why?

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1082
I for one would be okay with giving pandora the dresden treatment.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1083
yo where's that really good article highlighting how while conservative idiots going to colleges solely for trolling gets all the "Muh Speech!" attention, the corporatization of higher education does a whole hell of a lot more to crush leftist speech.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1084
less corporatization, more the attempt to strip-mine the prestige associated with higher ed for the purposes of the emerging kleptocracy

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1085
how many people have been murdered in the past 12 months by Nazis versus how many have been murdered by people who don't want Nazis to speak on campus?

How many people have been murdered in the last 12 months, in general?  Because, you know, murder is illegal.  Asshole Nazis who murder people should be tried for both murder and hate crimes. 

Speech, however, is a right

another thing that is a right: being able to continue to live your life without someone ending it

im not sure you really thought this one through, lol

  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1086
yo where's that really good article highlighting how while conservative idiots going to colleges solely for trolling gets all the "Muh Speech!" attention, the corporatization of higher education does a whole hell of a lot more to crush leftist speech.

You mean Don Moynihan's piece?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/opinion/whos-really-placing-limits-on-free-speech.html

He is a pretty awesome Twitter follow, btw. Also lol at how much of an old pandora is about Twitter.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1087
how many people have been murdered in the past 12 months by Nazis versus how many have been murdered by people who don't want Nazis to speak on campus?

How many people have been murdered in the last 12 months, in general?  Because, you know, murder is illegal.  Asshole Nazis who murder people should be tried for both murder and hate crimes. 

Speech, however, is a right

another thing that is a right: being able to continue to live your life without someone ending it

im not sure you really thought this one through, lol

nono living is a privilege. organizing political action to murder all minorities and establish a white master race at gunpoint is a right.

DON'T BE A TYRANT GUNNARJ

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1088
also lol there are plenty of legal limits on free speech, including direct threats of harm, direct attempts to cause harm, and direct planning to commit a crime. But it's interesting that pandora is only dedicated to first amendment defenses when it's on behalf of murderous nazis, and is totally ok with limits on speech for everyone else.

  • ksen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1089
Wolves are totally fine with strong men as pack leaders.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1090
The whole "alpha wolf pack" thing is actually based on very dated science! The original research was on a captive wolf pack in the 40's, but studies since then on wild wolves have found a completely different pack dynamic centered around family, not "alpha" machismo shit.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1091
lol at all of the red pill idiots who base their whole fucked up misogynistic ideology around "alpha" and "beta" science from the 1940's

  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1092
The whole "alpha wolf pack" thing is actually based on very dated science! The original research was on a captive wolf pack in the 40's, but studies since then on wild wolves have found a completely different pack dynamic centered around family, not "alpha" machismo shit.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629

The most fun you'll ever have is mentioning this to a dog trainer who likes to alpha roll and idolizes Cesar Milan.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1093
The whole "alpha wolf pack" thing is actually based on very dated science! The original research was on a captive wolf pack in the 40's, but studies since then on wild wolves have found a completely different pack dynamic centered around family, not "alpha" machismo shit.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629

lol of course pandora idolizes a caged dog.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #1094
shut the fuck up you idiot

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neo-nazi-video-charlottesville-violence_us_5a8ca5dce4b00a30a250606c?xy4j_%3Fclear


Nazis aren't actually interested in "Free Speech" and the moment they have enough power, conveniently achieved in part thanks to idiots giving them a platform, they will crush liberal ideas such as free speech. You don't beat Nazis by out-debating them.
I don't give a fuck if they're interested in free speech. 
You shoulda just stopped there and put a bullet in your head.