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I see elves and pixies: the psychoactive drugs and hallucinogens thread

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I knew Testy would be first in the thread

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I knew the sun would rise this morning.
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"People will take psilocybin at a rave or at Burning Man [. . .] but the effect," he said, "evaporates like water running through their hands."

That's a strange, categorical statement for a psychopharmacologist to make. Either he knows better, and he's got some agenda, or he's bizarrely ignorant.
  • Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 08:52:07 PM by Recusant

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"People will take psilocybin at a rave or at Burning Man [. . .] but the effect," he said, "evaporates like water running through their hands."

That's a strange, categorical statement for a psychopharmacologist to make. Either he knows better, and he's got some agenda, or he's bizarrely ignorant.
Yes; ~33 years ago (the last psilocybin fun I had) I was watching a ceramic seagull fly around the room for an hour before my friend poked me to get up out of the chair.  You can trip for hours from what I remember.

Gave all that stuff up before I turned 20.

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Leary did experiments with prisoners back in the 60s

All the psychoactive chemicals showed great ability to transform people.  So the government shut him down. 

The last thing we need is a bunch of free thinkers and happy people.
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"People will take psilocybin at a rave or at Burning Man [. . .] but the effect," he said, "evaporates like water running through their hands."

That's a strange, categorical statement for a psychopharmacologist to make. Either he knows better, and he's got some agenda, or he's bizarrely ignorant.
Yes; ~33 years ago (the last psilocybin fun I had) I was watching a ceramic seagull fly around the room for an hour before my friend poked me to get up out of the chair.  You can trip for hours from what I remember.

Gave all that stuff up before I turned 20.

I meant that a psychopharmacologist should know perfectly well that an experience with a powerful hallucinogen can have a lasting influence on a person (as FX alluded to), that is, long after the immediate experience, even outside of a clinical setting where that person is being shepherded or coached to achieve some objective.
  • Last Edit: December 15, 2016, 08:36:28 AM by Recusant

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Well, to be honest, the after effects of psilocyban were very benign when I compare it to LSD or Ecstasy which I found had a lasting hold on my thoughts.  I never took mescaline but have heard that the experience is similar to ecstasy.

Although anecdotal, none of the group I was with had any lasting effects from mushrooms but did have noticeable or relatable effects from other drugs.

I can see that if your psyche is susceptible to some type of imprint from any hallucinogen then mushrooms would be like any other trip on any other drug.

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Shrooms are not like Peyote, which is not like acid, which is certainly not like anything else.
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Leary did experiments with prisoners back in the 60s

All the psychoactive chemicals showed great ability to transform people.  So the government shut him down. 

The last thing we need is a bunch of free thinkers and happy people.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Well, to be honest, the after effects of psilocyban were very benign when I compare it to LSD or Ecstasy which I found had a lasting hold on my thoughts.  I never took mescaline but have heard that the experience is similar to ecstasy.

Although anecdotal, none of the group I was with had any lasting effects from mushrooms but did have noticeable or relatable effects from other drugs.

I can see that if your psyche is susceptible to some type of imprint from any hallucinogen then mushrooms would be like any other trip on any other drug.
LSD is by far the more profound between the two although I had a shroom experience that outdid all the others combined but it was not exactly profound. Mescaline is usually sold in the purple barrel pills and is less strong although different than LSD.

Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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"People will take psilocybin at a rave or at Burning Man [. . .] but the effect," he said, "evaporates like water running through their hands."

That's a strange, categorical statement for a psychopharmacologist to make. Either he knows better, and he's got some agenda, or he's bizarrely ignorant.
Yes; ~33 years ago (the last psilocybin fun I had) I was watching a ceramic seagull fly around the room for an hour before my friend poked me to get up out of the chair.  You can trip for hours from what I remember.

Gave all that stuff up before I turned 20.

I spent a couple of centuries or so (Subjective: Real time about 30 Min.) lost in a sunset at Chesler Park in Canyonlands National Park a few decades ago.