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  • uncool
Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
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Opiates make me sick.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • Bilirubin
  • Ain't nothing ta fuck wit'
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This is the area of law that was my partner's area of research before her retirement. There is a biological/genetic component to the legal conception of parentage that is neither supported by biology nor legal tradition. In fact, there was one frequently cited latin phrase folks assumed was attributed to Justinian that she traced back to some minor book in the 70s.

In this case, if the parents are married, then the child should retain the rights the other child received as well. Sucks for them now but it should work itself out correctly in the end. Of course lol Trump nothing matters anymore

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This is the area of law that was my partner's area of research before her retirement. There is a biological/genetic component to the legal conception of parentage that is neither supported by biology nor legal tradition. In fact, there was one frequently cited latin phrase folks assumed was attributed to Justinian that she traced back to some minor book in the 70s.

In this case, if the parents are married, then the child should retain the rights the other child received as well. Sucks for them now but it should work itself out correctly in the end. Of course lol Trump nothing matters anymore

Gorsuch will write the 5-4 decision stripping all of them of citizenship

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Also the aforementioned Gorsuch is apparently hanging out at GOP policy meetings.

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Also the aforementioned Gorsuch is apparently hanging out at GOP policy meetings.
How else would he find out how to rule?

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
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  • fredbear
  • Militantly Confused
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"...without considering any evidence at all - that my views are more likely - on average - to be correct.  Because the mainstream is almost always wrong" - Dave Hawkins

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Budget talks progress, as Senate Dems drop Dreamer demand

i can't even make shitty edgy gallows humor jokes about this shit anymore. well ok actually i've got one in me: send them all to the people's razor.

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Without a solution for Dreamers, Democrats have largely refused to acknowledge that they are making progress on a spending deal. But sources familiar with the talks say the distance between Republicans and Democrats has been narrowing for weeks.

Negotiators have already agreed to a massive boost to the Pentagon's budget. While the figures are still in flux, multiple sources say Congress would raise military spending by at least $70 billion above the caps for fiscal 2018 and $80 billion in fiscal 2019.

 :stareicide:

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 :911:  :deadthread:
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Without a solution for Dreamers, Democrats have largely refused to acknowledge that they are making progress on a spending deal. But sources familiar with the talks say the distance between Republicans and Democrats has been narrowing for weeks.

Negotiators have already agreed to a massive boost to the Pentagon's budget. While the figures are still in flux, multiple sources say Congress would raise military spending by at least $70 billion above the caps for fiscal 2018 and $80 billion in fiscal 2019.

 :stareicide:

Gotta create arms manufacturing jobs somehow.

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The entire GOP is running far to the right as quickly as they can


  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
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Been meaning to read this piece by Adam Serwer for some time now: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/trump/550454/

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A few hours after news of his remarks broke, Trump attempted to reframe his objections as a matter of public safety. "The Democrats seem intent on having people and drugs pour into our country from the Southern Border, risking thousands of lives in the process," Trump tweeted. "It is my duty to protect the lives and safety of all Americans. We must build a Great Wall, think Merit and end Lottery & Chain. USA!"

Or as Walker put it, "the present situation is most menacing to our peace and political, safety. In all the social and industrial disorders of this country since 1877, the foreign elements have proved themselves the ready tools of demagogues in defying the law, in destroying property, and in working violence." He offered that "There may be those who can contemplate the addition to our population of vast numbers of persons having no inherited instincts of self-government and respect for law; knowing no restraint upon their own passions but the club of the policeman or the bayonet of the soldier; forming communities, by the tens of thousands, in which only foreign tongues are spoken, and into which can steal no influence from our free institutions and from popular discussion. But I confess to being far less optimistic."

The benefit of this history is that we know how the story ended then; with the adoption of racist immigration laws, and the immigrants from the "shithole countries" of the turn of the century defending the country in two world wars. But their children and grandchildren, having assimilated into the very whiteness Walker and his ilk saw as endangered, now repeat the same slander laid upon their ancestors against a new generation of immigrants looking for a better life in America. The old lies are now again embraced by the descendants of those who once suffered because of them.

Already the president's defenders lurch from one argument or another in transparent bad faith. No one is offended by the president's use of profanity; it is the substance of his remarks, and not the specific word he employed, that is appalling. It makes the president's remarks no less racist to say that many who voted for him share the same sentiments; it merely means that those voters subscribe to the same racism. The president was not making an assessment of the relative quality of life in Haiti or Norway, he was condemning entire populations of people of as undesirable because of where they were born. Trump's remarks do not merely express contempt for foreigners; but also for every American who shares their origins.

The president's focus on the nationality, rather than on the personal merits, of immigrants suggests what he means by "merit-based" immigration: Not accepting those immigrants who have mastered science or engineering or some other crucial skill, but instead a standard that finds white Scandinavians acceptable, while ruling out Haitians, Salvadorans, and Africans. The only "merits" here are accidents of birth and geography, owing to no individual accomplishment at all.

It would be useless to point out that African immigrants are, on average, more highly educated and more likely to be gainfully employed than native-born Americans, or that immigrants in general are less likely to commit crimes. Trump's is not a logic that employs facts, it is one that employs tribe. It is the logic of "us" being better than "them," with white Scandinavians reflecting a self-definition of "us," that excludes blacks and latinos regardless of their relationship to this country.

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
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The entire GOP is running far to the right as quickly as they can


what the hell??

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so this guy is just the swedish equivalent of a magachud:



yeah, spending $120/person on a refugee camp provides the same results as $100k/person on a proper asylum program


  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
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  • uncool
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9th circuit decision: alien minors are not entitled to an attorney at government expense at removal proceedings.

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2018/01/29/16-73801.pdf

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Neither Supreme Court nor circuit precedent compels the remedy that C.J. seeks: court-appointed counsel at government expense.

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/26/16932350/ice-immigration-customs-license-plate-recognition-contract-vigilant-solutions
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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency has officially gained agency-wide access to a nationwide license plate recognition database, according to a contract finalized earlier this month. The system gives the agency access to billions of license plate records and new powers of real-time location tracking, raising significant concerns from civil libertarians.

The source of the data is not named in the contract, but an ICE representative said the data came from Vigilant Solutions, the leading network for license plate recognition data. "Like most other law enforcement agencies, ICE uses information obtained from license plate readers as one tool in support of its investigations," spokesperson Dani Bennett said in a statement. "ICE is not seeking to build a license plate reader database, and will not collect nor contribute any data to a national public or private database through this contract."

Reached by The Verge, Vigilant declined to confirm any contract with ICE. "As policy, Vigilant Solutions is not at liberty to share any contractual details," the company said in a statement. "This is a standard agreement between our company, our partners, and our clients."

While it collects few photos itself, Vigilant Solutions has amassed a database of more than 2 billion license plate photos by ingesting data from partners like vehicle repossession agencies and other private groups. Vigilant also partners with local law enforcement agencies, often collecting even more data from camera-equipped police cars. The result is a massive vehicle-tracking network generating as many as 100 million sightings per month, each tagged with a date, time, and GPS coordinates of the sighting.
""Are we as a society ... willing to let our government create an infrastructure that will track all of us?""

ICE agents would be able to query that database in two ways. A historical search would turn up every place a given license plate has been spotted in the last five years, a detailed record of the target's movements. That data could be used to find a given subject's residence or even identify associates if a given car is regularly spotted in a specific parking lot.

"Knowing the previous locations of a vehicle can help determine the whereabouts of subjects of criminal investigations or priority aliens to facilitate their interdiction and removal," an official privacy assessment explains. "In some cases, when other leads have gone cold, the availability of commercial LPR data may be the only viable way to find a subject."

ICE agents can also receive instantaneous email alerts whenever a new record of a particular plate is found -- a system known internally as a "hot list." (The same alerts can also be funneled to the Vigilant's iOS app.) According to the privacy assessment, as many as 2,500 license plates could be uploaded to the hot list in a single batch, although the assessment does not detail how often new batches can be added. With sightings flooding in from police dashcams and stationary readers on bridges and toll booths, it would be hard for anyone on the list to stay unnoticed for long.

Those powers are particularly troubling given ICE's recent move to expand deportations beyond criminal offenders, fueling concerns of politically motivated enforcement. In California, state officials have braced for rumored deportation sweeps targeted at sanctuary cities. In New York, community leaders say they've been specifically targeted for deportation as a result of their activism. With automated license plate recognition, that targeting would only grow more powerful.

For civil liberties groups, the implications go far beyond immigration. "There are people circulating in our society who are undocumented," says senior policy analyst Jay Stanley, who studies license plate readers with the ACLU. "Are we as a society, out of our desire to find those people, willing to let our government create an infrastructure that will track all of us?"

The new license plate reader contract comes after years of internal lobbying by the agency. ICE first tested Vigilant's system in 2012, gauging how effective it was at locating undocumented immigrants. Two years later, the agency issued an open solicitation for the technology, sparking an outcry from civil liberties group. Homeland Security secretary Jeh Johnson canceled the solicitation shortly afterward, citing privacy concerns, although two field offices subsequently formed rogue contracts with Vigilant in apparent violation of Johnson's policy. In 2015, Homeland Security issued another call for bids, although an ICE representative said no contract resulted from that solicitation.

As a result, this new contract is the first agency-wide contract ICE has completed with the company, a fact that is reflected in accompanying documents. On December 27th, 2017, Homeland Security issued an updated privacy assessment of license plate reader technology, a move it explained was necessary because "ICE has now entered into a contract with a vendor."
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #595
this doesn't sound like you're focused on the 2018 elections!

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this doesn't sound like you're focused on the 2018 elections!



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Schumer's gamble... is that failure to secure protections for dreamers will fall on Republicans -- and that Trump-state Democrats will be able to survive by tacking away from the more liberal wing of the party on immigration and other issues.

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 :cripes:

  • nesb
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I think it's obvious Democrats can't just throw dreamers under the bus in a cynical move for (probably imaginary) political gains. Though, I just read an editorial arguing for exactly that--suggesting only "crazy leftists" would blame Democrats for a failure to pass DACA, and that Republicans would back down once dreamers started being deported en masse (uh-huh...). Apparently in ignorance of the fact that Democrats are going to need those "crazy leftist" votes if they want to take back Congress. All the same, I can see how signaling a willingness to let Republicans reap what they sow could be useful for negotiations going forward. Since, currently, Congress seems deadlocked over whether any action on DACA should be combined with a massive reduction in legal immigration.

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...Democrats are going to need those "crazy leftist" votes if they want to take back Congress.

why bother earning their votes when you can just blame them for losing instead?