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You guys can think whatever you want to.  You always do no matter what the facts are anyway.  But the truth is ... we were discussing longevity of indigenous people groups and I found an old Maasai guy that was spry enough to marry a young bride - woo hoo!  I'll say it again and I'll keep saying it as long as it comes up.  "Woo hoo!  The guy's nowhere close to being dead ... everyone seems happy ... Woo hoo!"  You guys have something mentally wrong if you can't see the appropriateness of my comment. 
Oh, I see.
Your "woo-hoo!" was only celebrating the old guy's health, and was exactly equivalent to the "woo-hoo!" you would have given to a healthy blood pressure reading, and had absolutely nothing to do with "hubba-hubba - what old guy wouldn't want to get it on with a 15 year old"

::)
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"But, as to child marriage, his argument was that one bride (15 years old) was claimed to be happy about it by a South African white woman that didn't speak their language.  And another (12 years old) was claimed to be getting a great deal because she married a rich guy and could get fucked by all the other adults that she desired."

Good case study in the art of spin.

AKA lying.


But as always you can't specify the lie, only accuse someone of lying.

That was a summary Dave, where was the lie?


ETA: Or is it in fact yourself that is lying as usual.


First lie: "child marriage" - you are giving readers the impression that we were discussing "child marriage."  But I was not discussing child marriage.  I was discussing longevity of indigenous people groups.  In my search for long lived indigenous people, I ran across that article so I posted it with the "woo hoo" comment which echoed the sentiment of the on site white woman living in the village.  That was just a passing comment intended to communicate "wow, that 70 year old guy is plenty healthy enough to attract a hot young bride!"

Second lie:  Misrepresenting the article I posted which included an admission that yes, sometimes brides are as young as 12.  The purpose of that article was to respond to those who were basically saying ... in effect ...  "Poor 15 old bride ... she's stuck having sex with an old geezer who probably can't even get it up."  People would not understand that from what you wrote.

A commitment to truth - 100% truth - requires the hard work of actually trying to understand what people are saying and not misrepresenting them.
Wow, what a pathetic stretch. Neither of those are lies, Dave.
Ben is right, dave.  :sadyes:

Rather than admit that you cannot, in fact, identify any lies*, you are now lying to yourself.

* as defined by the rest of the world.
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Well yes, when people post lies about me it often puts me in the mood to call them liars, yes.
but when you can't / won't identify any lie, it just makes you look foolish.
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You guys can keep playing this childish game if you want to. But I think it's more interesting to talk about the causes of the Civil War and related issues.
... and, apparently, to call people liars without identifying any lie.
(speaking of childish games)
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Nope. You're lying.
Can you point out the lie or do you just mean you don't like that interpretation?
I could. But it's a waste of time to do so.
No, you can't.
We've all seen you play this game before.
It's transparently childish.
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This is a science Forum. It's not about beliefs. It's about observation and evidence.
Nah.
It's an Alternative Science Forum.
To which you bring alternative observation and evidence.

(aka "alternative facts")
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When all else fails, trot out the bluster and bravado.
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Nope. You're lying.
Have you noticed the number of people in the past couple of days who have called you out for this consistent pattern?
I.e.  accusing people of lying, without specifying any lie?
It's profoundly dishonest.
But that doesn't seem to bother you.
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Dave, it's futile to post contreehouse. No one but you and a few of his followers trust that guy.

It's not a matter of trust. Its a matter of content which actually checks out upon close inspection... and other aspects
Except that it doesn't.
Sure it does!
He checks it against what he wants to believe and - lo and behold! - it checks out.
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The point is ... there are reasons why I don't always eat my preferred foods ... but I get plenty of nutrition from other foods ... so do my goats.
who picks up their tab at Wendy's?
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3) it has been reported that these "very fine people" were not marching with Nazis but had gathered separately and peaceably to protest statue removal.
No it hasn't.
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I presume you've heard the song "Strange Fruit"? You do know what its about don't you?
I wouldn't be too sure.

He is pretty clueless.
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Don't be an idiot, HH. When literal white nationalists are marching in the streets and running people over in their cars, the proper response isn't reasonable rational debate.
Right. The proper response is to arrest those people and prosecute them. And that's exactly what the law enforcement officials did. Do you have any other brilliant observations?
The guy who committed vehicular murder was arrested, and is being prosecuted. (Presumably; I haven't checked for updates).
Literal white nationalists marching in the streets calls for a different response.
what it does not call for is violence against them or against people who defend them, and I'm not saying that I defend them. I absolutely do not defend them in fact. ...
Except by agreeing with Trump that Very Fine People marched among them.
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It's pretty hard for me to be pearl-clutchy about totally-not-Bart, even if he's seemingly sincere in this incarnation. Albeit, not a threat to Dave. Maybe Dave's feelings. Either way, let's not pretend like threatening violence on TR is new and shocking.
It's not new, but it's pretty rare. And it should shock you. We should never become desensitized to shocking behavior.
It used to be that defending people marching in Nazi/Klanner marches was pretty shocking.
But Trump seems to have desensitized a lot of people to that.
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Don't be an idiot, HH. When literal white nationalists are marching in the streets and running people over in their cars, the proper response isn't reasonable rational debate.
Right. The proper response is to arrest those people and prosecute them. And that's exactly what the law enforcement officials did. Do you have any other brilliant observations?
The guy who committed vehicular murder was arrested, and is being prosecuted. (Presumably; I haven't checked for updates).
Literal white nationalists marching in the streets calls for a different response.
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...  whether that black reporter for Fox News was correct or not.
I see the blackness of that reporter has assumed the same iconic significance as the womanhood of the South African visitor to the Maasai.    ::)
It's truly bewildering.

It took some digging, but I think I've identified "the black guy". It is, afaict, David Webb, conservative, Tea Party co-founder (in one city), Brietbart contributor, radio show host, Fox news contributor.
So not actually a reporter, and not someone who was at Charlottesville during the events in question.
So why is his contribution worth... anything at all     :dunno:
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Dave simply doesn't care. He's just a mindless parrot. Hell, he couldn't even make an original comment, and parroted the "had a rough night" one from the alt-right blogs.
:sadyes:

And I guess these Trump-bots think that having the alt-right echo chamber reverberating with some Goebbels-wannabe's latest obvious lie constitutes "having a rough night".      ::)

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What was the point of the chess board? 
Drunk posting?

I was waiting to see if anyone figured it out ... Faid seems to get it ... at least in part ...
"In part"?

What I "get" is that Assange tweeted that picture you posted with no comment, and all alt-right lap dogs out there are joyfully yapping, wagging tails and sniffing each other's bottoms, trying to determine the hidden crucial meaning behind that tweet. They've had no specific concensus so far, other than that it obviously foretells some kind of heavy blow against Killary and Deep State.

Did I miss anything? If so, what?
Just out of curiosity...
Does anyone know how that chess game played out?
Is there some obvious checkmate in three moves that I'm missing?
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...  whether that black reporter for Fox News was correct or not.
I see the blackness of that reporter has assumed the same iconic significance as the womanhood of the South African visitor to the Maasai.    ::)
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I'm happy to investigate Jack's statement when I get back on my home computer.
You should do the minimum "investigation' necessary to fact-check BEFORE you  re-broadcast these lies.
Not doing so makes you AT LEAST as culpable of dishonesty as the liar whose lies you are thereby amplifying.
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I've got news for you people... Real news, as opposed to fake news. Having them graze tall grass with seed heads and giving them browse (tree hay) as a supplement is a hell of a lot closer to Nature than having them graze the typical short, overgrazed pastures in my area and supplementing with massive amounts of grass hay and grain. Do you guys really believe that the typical goat owner in America truly allows goats to browse as they would in nature? If you do, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Here's some real - not fake - news for you, Hawkins:

Keeping goats in a robotic cage is not "as close to Nature as possible".
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And what could be closer to Nature than a robotic cage?  :dunno:
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How about you even WATCH THE VIDEO SNIPPET Posobiec himself posted? It's clear he refers to what the DACA will allow. He doesn't call for an end to chain migration.
You don't even have to do that to know that Posobiec is lying.
As is Trump, for rebroadcasting the lie.
As is Hawkins.
Quote from: Posobiec
Dick Durbin called Trump racist for wanting to end chain migration.
Durbin did NOT call Trump racist for wanting to end chain migration.

You'd think a PhD in Truth Detection would have noticed that blatant lie before propagating it.


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In planned speech, Sen. Jeff Flake compares Trump's media attacks to comments by Stalin

Here's a conservative republican who seems to think it's Trump, not HRC, who dangerously resembles Stalin.
And it seems he has something more substantive to that comparison than their hair.