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  • linus
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #50
Milo may have lost Breitbart but he'll never lose The Daily Caller
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/21/notorious-never-trump-org-funded-group-behind-milo-controversy/

ETA: "In a 4Chan post made the evening of Sunday, a user tells others that..."
  • Last Edit: February 21, 2017, 03:07:13 PM by linus

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #51
the real scandal here is not what he said, it's "WHO LEAKED IT??"

  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #52
This piece is 100% :burnsauce: :
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So Simon & Schuster has dropped him, CPAC rescinded his keynote spot, and he's stepped down from his position at Breitbart. This afternoon, he assembled a quickie press conference at which he spoke in front of an electrical outlet, styled as Linda Dano doing George Will cosplay, and did the boilerplate apology for "imprecise language." He cited his own status as a victim of sexual abuse at the age of 16, explained how it negatively affected his life for years after, and then urged his followers to reject victim status. He mentioned having lost his virginity at 13 at least three times. He played with his hair, dissed Ross Mathews, and promised he'd be back with a vague new media venture. When the assembled reporters talked over each other in trying to get in a question, he let loose the only funny thing I've ever heard him say: "Could you be respectful of other people please?"

He never did get around to saying anything we haven't heard before. Because he can't.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a53306/who-is-milo/

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #53
if the reality is that he is a sexual assault survivor who has internalized a lot of that shit to the point that it has metastasized, that's almost kinda sad.

almost

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #54
Powerlessness leading to suffering does a number on the future brain states. Cops understand this and exploit it.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • Bilirubin
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Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #55
You think that'd be a big deal?
You will not be allowed in. There is an entire economy that has built around famous active churches (like Notre Dame or Sacre Coeur in Paris) to sell veils or shawls to cover bare shoulders.

e. hell pious catholic women just a generation or two ago would not go into church without head coverings, this isn't unique to Islam at all

  • meepmeep
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Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #56
Same is true for Russian Orthodox churches, at least in Russia, and it's extremely disrespectful for women to not cover their heads. I always wore a scarf so I don't know for sure if they'd kick you out but I wouldn't be surprised . And I was advised to wear a long skirt when visiting monasteries because pants are also disrespectful.

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #57
Similarly, you would not be allowed into a historic synagogue or to the Kotel without your head covered, regardless of gender.

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #58
Similarly, you would not be allowed into a historic synagogue or to the Kotel without your head covered, regardless of gender.
is that a kosher hotel?

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #59
Kotel is the western wall you dumbass.

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #60
thanks for clearing that up.  I was dead serious about it being a kosher hotel.

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #61
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/matt-taibbi-milo-yiannopoulos-isnt-going-away-w468012
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The "oppressive idea of consent" rant seems to have created problems for Yiannopoulos. Staffers at Breitbart, where he is a senior editor, are threatening to walk out unless he's fired. Moreover, he's been disinvited from CPAC, a development he will no doubt portray as an overreaction by a defeated and humorless Republican establishment.

Milo's obvious play will be to use all of this coverage as free PR, seeking to come out the other side with his rebel credentials burnished. He'll recreate himself as a Republican martyr, unfairly maligned by a corrupt priesthood that fears the true movement.

On the outside, this looks like a mistake. The Bannonite Alt-Right crew Milo represents imagines itself a brilliant group of intellectual danger-seekers, but trying to sell boy-buggering to the American Conservative Union sure seems more stupid than daring (and it's plenty daring).

After all, the success of the Trump movement depends upon a nervous coalition of aging religious conservatives and young, race-baiting, Internet-addicted morons - the people GOP consultant Rick Wilson once called "childless single men who masturbate to anime."

The link between these two groups has always been tenuous at best. Really, it's an absurd semantic misunderstanding, a classic Americanism, confusing the words "liberty" and "libertine."

There's a big difference between believing in limited government, and completely rejecting all behavioral and sexual morality. But people like Yiannopoulos and Trump have been successful at blurring these lines, because we're not a very bright people. Also, we're inexperienced when it comes to this kind of high-level political con artistry.

A dynamic that all good swindlers understand is that once you've gotten a person to make one embarrassing decision, it's easier to get him to make the next one. A person who loses 10 grand trying to buy the Brooklyn Bridge is a good bet to spend 20 more chasing the loss. Con artists call this "reloading."

The Trump phenomenon has been like this. Megachurch moms and dads across the country grit their teeth when the "grab them by the pussy" tape came out, quietly convincing themselves that "locker-room talk" was less horrifying than a Hillary Clinton presidency.

When they cast their votes weeks later, it was like a secret transgression that bound them to the new leader. This counter-intuitive brand of politics is very effective. It's why no one should be too quick to put this week's seeming fiasco with CPAC in the Republicans' loss column.

One would think the last thing you'd want to do if your intent was to hold a fragile Republican coalition together is pitch Milo Yiannopoulos as a defender of family values. Why would the Mike Pence crowd ever rally behind a Brit with frosted hair who brags about getting blowjobs from priests? It seems preposterous.

But watch it work. A week from now, the same conservatives who are beating their breasts about Yiannopoulos now will go crawling back into the Trump camp to fight the hated liberals on a dozen other issues. They will look weak and indecisive, and privately will be demoralized, while the Trump/Bannon/Milo crew will look like poker players who won a bluff. It's always about the next news cycle with these people.

Trolling doesn't take brains. But it works, and it will keep working, until we learn to see through the provocations in real time.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • Bilirubin
  • Ain't nothing ta fuck wit'
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #62
Kotel is the western wall you dumbass.
Imagine a British descended American not knowing that right?

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #63
I am descended from el guapo sr.

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #64
Kotel is the western wall you dumbass.
Imagine a British descended American not knowing that right?

guapo likes to guapo that he's an expert on the israel-palestine conflict so I guapo that guapo guapos what the Kotel is and why it's important to Jews. But guapo gonna guapo so :guapo:

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #65
that's racist

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #66
WHO GUAPOS THE GUAPO???


Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #67
Same is true for Russian Orthodox churches, at least in Russia, and it's extremely disrespectful for women to not cover their heads. I always wore a scarf so I don't know for sure if they'd kick you out but I wouldn't be surprised . And I was advised to wear a long skirt when visiting monasteries because pants are also disrespectful.
On the other end of the head covering spectrum, I was once scolded by a priest for wearing a hat in Westminster Abbey.

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #68
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
Why do I bother?

  • Doobie Keebler
  • Ridiculous Callipygous
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #69
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/matt-taibbi-milo-yiannopoulos-isnt-going-away-w468012
Quote
The "oppressive idea of consent" rant seems to have created problems for Yiannopoulos. Staffers at Breitbart, where he is a senior editor, are threatening to walk out unless he's fired. Moreover, he's been disinvited from CPAC, a development he will no doubt portray as an overreaction by a defeated and humorless Republican establishment.

Milo's obvious play will be to use all of this coverage as free PR, seeking to come out the other side with his rebel credentials burnished. He'll recreate himself as a Republican martyr, unfairly maligned by a corrupt priesthood that fears the true movement.

On the outside, this looks like a mistake. The Bannonite Alt-Right crew Milo represents imagines itself a brilliant group of intellectual danger-seekers, but trying to sell boy-buggering to the American Conservative Union sure seems more stupid than daring (and it's plenty daring).

After all, the success of the Trump movement depends upon a nervous coalition of aging religious conservatives and young, race-baiting, Internet-addicted morons - the people GOP consultant Rick Wilson once called "childless single men who masturbate to anime."

The link between these two groups has always been tenuous at best. Really, it's an absurd semantic misunderstanding, a classic Americanism, confusing the words "liberty" and "libertine."

There's a big difference between believing in limited government, and completely rejecting all behavioral and sexual morality. But people like Yiannopoulos and Trump have been successful at blurring these lines, because we're not a very bright people. Also, we're inexperienced when it comes to this kind of high-level political con artistry.

A dynamic that all good swindlers understand is that once you've gotten a person to make one embarrassing decision, it's easier to get him to make the next one. A person who loses 10 grand trying to buy the Brooklyn Bridge is a good bet to spend 20 more chasing the loss. Con artists call this "reloading."

The Trump phenomenon has been like this. Megachurch moms and dads across the country grit their teeth when the "grab them by the pussy" tape came out, quietly convincing themselves that "locker-room talk" was less horrifying than a Hillary Clinton presidency.

When they cast their votes weeks later, it was like a secret transgression that bound them to the new leader. This counter-intuitive brand of politics is very effective. It's why no one should be too quick to put this week's seeming fiasco with CPAC in the Republicans' loss column.

One would think the last thing you'd want to do if your intent was to hold a fragile Republican coalition together is pitch Milo Yiannopoulos as a defender of family values. Why would the Mike Pence crowd ever rally behind a Brit with frosted hair who brags about getting blowjobs from priests? It seems preposterous.

But watch it work. A week from now, the same conservatives who are beating their breasts about Yiannopoulos now will go crawling back into the Trump camp to fight the hated liberals on a dozen other issues. They will look weak and indecisive, and privately will be demoralized, while the Trump/Bannon/Milo crew will look like poker players who won a bluff. It's always about the next news cycle with these people.

Trolling doesn't take brains. But it works, and it will keep working, until we learn to see through the provocations in real time.

The theme that seems to be emerging from the fruit-loop testosterone set is that rather than try to explain or clarify himself he should have stood his ground, pounded the podium, and blamed liberals and LGBTs for advancing LGBT rights as the reason he was molested/raped in the first place. That he should be using what happened as a talking point that gays aren't born gay but become so from being molested.

Although I'm not sure that is a surprise to anyone.
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Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #70
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
God really needs to decide on a universal position on the offensiveness of covered versus uncovered heads.

  • meepmeep
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  • zombiecat queen
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #71
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
God really needs to decide on a universal position on the offensiveness of covered versus uncovered heads.

Well, it's a sign of rank - God, Jesus, husband, and then wife. So women wear it to show they're subservient to their husband and thus subservient to God because they're sticking to the correct hierarchy.

  • osmanthus
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Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #72
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
God really needs to decide on a universal position on the offensiveness of covered versus uncovered heads.

Well, it's a sign of rank - God, Jesus, husband, and then wife. So women wear it to show they're subservient to their husband and thus subservient to God because they're sticking to the correct hierarchy.
Back when my mum were a lass, which is sorta WW2 period, she was told that the reason women had to wear hats in church was so angels couldn't check them out and get all horny. No shit.
Truth is out of style

Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #73
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
God really needs to decide on a universal position on the offensiveness of covered versus uncovered heads.

Well, it's a sign of rank - God, Jesus, husband, and then wife. So women wear it to show they're subservient to their husband and thus subservient to God because they're sticking to the correct hierarchy.
Lower rank means being protected from birdshit? I don't get it.

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Keeping tabs on the alt-right
Reply #74
That's because you're a bloke. Men aren't allowed to wear hats in churches.
God really needs to decide on a universal position on the offensiveness of covered versus uncovered heads.

Well, it's a sign of rank - God, Jesus, husband, and then wife. So women wear it to show they're subservient to their husband and thus subservient to God because they're sticking to the correct hierarchy.


it's the natural order of things.  as natural as using three umbrellas.