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Messages - borealis

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This is very wrong. It reads like dystopian fiction.
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I had egg laying chickens.

Boring.

I want egg laying chickens that require no grain (tillage is bad remember? (and fight back when attacked by dogs lol)

Where have you been all this time?
So a cassowary then. Good luck with nicking its eggs...

It doesn't seem to have occurred to him to grow no-till grain.  Or simply grow plants that chickens like. Sunflowers are pretty and chickens love sunflower seeds.

ETA: but sure - Dave, why don't you get cassowaries?  They'd probably be dog proof as well!

He's stuck on his current mix of pasture grasses and clover. For chickens he needs less uniformly grassy land and more things like chickweed and wild mustard and maybe plant a chicken garden with cabbage family plants. That also leaves more open patches of ground where the chooks can see insects running around and eat them, and more delicious weeds could grow.
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I had egg laying chickens.

Boring.

I want egg laying chickens that require no grain (tillage is bad remember? (and fight back when attacked by dogs lol)

Where have you been all this time?
So a cassowary then. Good luck with nicking its eggs...

I am very good at visual thinking. The imaginary video I'm currently watching as a result of your post is hilarious. But here's an idea of what that might look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jB2QFmXUCo
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Hey Dave, ever had your arm up to your shoulder inside a pregnant cow, trying to realign the calf so that it can be born naturally or pulled? I have. I doubt there's much you could teach me about raising cattle, that isn't utterly infested with your fantastical pronouncements and braggadocious optimism and empty misinformed rhetoric about ecology, and your utterly ridiculous claims about the implementation of animal husbandry.

But go ahead.

I know far more about raising cattle and sheep than you. And no I never have stuck my arm inside a cow to help in birthing and I never will need to.  The fact that you've done it shows that you don't know very much about raising cattle.

No doubt you'd just cull both animals. Maybe let them suffer a bunch first right? They're just machines.

I like you less with every new revelation of your thoughtlessly cruel notions.  I think you need help. You're emotionally stunted or something.
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I could teach you about dairy goats and sheep and cattle...
What can you teach us about raising sheep, Dave?

How would you deal with a flyblown lamb, for example?

He'd let it die. Just an experimental organic machine, right?
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 :ohmy:
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Here Dave, listen to this lovely seasonal tune and put aside spite for a few minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B818DE3EsHY
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"Tillage is nowhere near as bad as abject ignorance regarding what grows and why it thrives, plants or animals."

 i'm sorry but yes it is.  tillage is horrendously destructive.

People have managed to survive and thrive by tilling the earth for thousands of years, oh brilliant one. Having half their animals perish untimely, however, has precipitated many a famine.
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I had egg laying chickens.

Boring.

I want egg laying chickens that require no grain (tillage is bad remember? (and fight back when attacked by dogs lol)

Where have you been all this time?

Then maybe you should investigate what chickens actually need in their diets to thrive and lay eggs, and check to see if your pasture actually has all of it. Tillage is nowhere near as bad as abject ignorance regarding what grows and why it thrives, plants or animals. That information exists and is accessible without you reinventing the wheel - as an aesthetically inspiring triangle.

Maybe it isn't chickens you really want. Maybe you need a bird more native and thus more likely to thrive with very little input from you, like pheasants or quail or wild turkeys.

Chickens rarely win in a dog encounter. You either protect the chickens from the dogs or train the dogs not to molest the chickens.
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"He has ten paid for (presumably) acres of prime arable land. He could leave all the scheming out of it and raise a small flock right there and see how he likes it."

That's exactly what I've been doing for the past year and a half and will continue that with a bit larger flock this next year.  haven't I mentioned that several times already?

No you haven't. You've raised two goats in a cage, failed to raise chickens, killed a bunch of bunnies and a young pig, and have nfi how to raise enough sheep to make a profit.

Lol

Your manipulative bitchiness is showing again Borealis

Don't conflate disapproval with bitchiness. You know very well I think your goat cage sucks and is cruel. And you've admitted to bunny deaths, piglet death, and failure of chickens to thrive and lay eggs.

The most clueless people in my neighbourhood, including a guy who is genuinely mentally disabled, manage to raise egg-laying chickens just fine. Your results are the worst advertisement ever for your philosophy - unless your philosophy is "Oh well everything dies."
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"He has ten paid for (presumably) acres of prime arable land. He could leave all the scheming out of it and raise a small flock right there and see how he likes it."

That's exactly what I've been doing for the past year and a half and will continue that with a bit larger flock this next year.  haven't I mentioned that several times already?

No you haven't. You've raised two goats in a cage, failed to raise chickens, killed a bunch of bunnies and a young pig, and have nfi how to raise enough sheep to make a profit.
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Your for-profit health care and insurance system is broken. People are suffering now, but I'm sorry to say it will likely have to reach third world levels of death and horror before anything will be done to fix it.
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Why "semi-permanent" i.e. depreciating homes? When, with a bit of render and actual craftmanship, you could build permanent homes would remain an asset?  In every sense?

Answer?  There is no answer.  Hawkins has his reasons.  'nuff said.

I have a sneaking suspicion it's because in his heart he has no faith in himself not to fail to make rent/mortgage payments in time, thus making it necessary to dismantle everything and move.

It's still dumb. He has ten paid for (presumably) acres of prime arable land. He could leave all the scheming out of it and raise a small flock right there and see how he likes it. Or he could rent his pasture out to someone who has sheep/cows/goats they want to keep there.

It's not uncommon for people to rent pasture to farmers who want to leave cows with calves away from their main operation, or pasture young steers, especially for specialty breeds such as Highland cattle, a popular hobby farm breed here.
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I read that very article earlier this week. It's so depressing.
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 :no:  neither of you were funny. Sorry.
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Introductions / Re: So...
I've certainly been having some fun, and I've made some acquaintances along the way. Thanks.

You're looking, errm, I remember a slightly less manic avatar...

Old woman. I can wear what I want.  :stuckup:

Or it's a response to the times.
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Introductions / Re: So...
Welcome back. Sounds like you've been doing well overall. :)
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"Your goat prison is illegal"

Bullshit.

Show me your law that says so.

Show me a case where someone was prosecuted for something similar.
Who are you quoting?
Some idiot back a few pages.  Not you.

and of course it is a quotemine. What I wrote was: "Your goat prison is illegal where I live"

your dishonesty is revolting.

It would probably be illegal as winter shelter where I live. A February ice storm with driving winds in that kind of pen would kill any livestock. They wouldn't even be able to seek their own shelter in trees or brush.
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Still haven't checked out all those tiny graves in older cemeteries, have you, Dave?

Anti-vaccinations fools like yourself drive old people crazy because it sucks to see how stupid you are, and how unwilling to know what it was like before vaccinations.

I suppose what you want is the 'good old days', when diptheria, for example, could rip through a rural community and kill half the kids in every family.

I'm here to tell you, those accounts of such outbreaks are heart-rending, and the toll on those families unthinkable and long-lasting.
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Tbf I think the "feminazi" thing mostly came from the mainstream right who believed in some (weird and conservative) version of gender equality, and didn't want to call out the "real" feminists. This segment of the alt right doesn't give a shit about that distinction because they don't believe in any version of gender equality.

That's what I've observed.

It's a common meme among MRAs to insist that feminism is gynocentric and they personally believe in 'egalitarianism', which they seem to interpret as righting the terrible wrongs men experience wrt child custody (even though when fathers actually want custody, they usually get it, and most parents opt for joint custody anyway), equal prison terms (although it seems to be a myth that women are given more lenient sentences for similar crimes), and making the penalty for 'false rape accusation' (of which they have an astonishingly skewed idea of prevalence) equal to the penalty for actual violent rape.
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did you predict that Trump would lose in the presidential election?

No, I did not.

Why would I? Americans have history, buddy. Canadians are well aware of it, especially those of us old enough to remember Nixon.

What's your point?
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No, one doesn't wonder.  Trump can't play Tic-Tac-Toe.

Haha and he can't build a business either.

He can't. He started out rich with his daddy's millions. He hired people to do the actual work. Then he drove business after business into bankruptcy, cheating contractors and sub-contractors all along the way. He's up to his eyeballs in debt to Russian oligarchs, the only people who'll lend him money these days, because American banks will not. His 'brand' is so tarnished people sue to have the name removed from their buildings. He'd likely be richer now if he tossed Daddy's million in savings account and left it there.


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And he doesn't have nice normal kids with nice normal families either.

If Trump's brood are what you think are nice normal kids and his marriages nice normal families then I hope for your kids' sake that your wife has been the dominant parent. There's no love lost between Trump and any of his wives - just legal obligations. He bought every one of them and has treated them brutally, psychologically and sometimes physically.

His children are mostly appallingly needy privileged shitty people.


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And he doesn't have a chance at getting elected.

Oh wait.

His being elected says less about Trump than it does about a vast segment of the American people - most notably those of you who think you have god on your side when in reality, y'all really need Jesus, because whatever it is you're worshipping right now, it has very little relationship to the personage described in Matthew,Mark, Luke and John.

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Oh ... and I remembered the point of this "machine" side discussion ... you guys keep saying that I'm actually a reductionist and you are holists, but I was objecting and saying no you've got it backwards, I'm the holist and YOU guys are the reductionists.
And your argument in favor of that proposition is that YOU think animals can be reduced to "machines", and WE think they are much more than that.

It's the ultimate Own Goal!  :notworthy:

Hugely telling that the God-believing creationist here is the one who refuses to value animals as anything more than useful (for him) machinery, setting himself up to comfortably believe nothing horrible he does to them can contribute to any sense of shame or guilt on his part.

Words have meanings, Dave, and sometimes those meanings have intellectual and emotional subtexts. Your awful, self-serving twisting of the meaning of 'machine' says a lot more about you than it does about reality.

Bottom line: Y'all need Jesus, Hawkins. You really do.
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 The first time I saw a doberman with intact ears I didn't recognise the breed at all.
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I am fairly certain you could smell those guys coming from a fair distance away, and I doubt they exit their cellars all that often either.