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Messages - Wally

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And, yes. Dave sucks at science because he believes stories.
There's a general rule, that's just as valid for politics as it is for science: When your story needs more and more conspiracy theories to work, it's time to start looking for a new story.

That's just what THEY want you to think! :stuckup:
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"Get her" for what, Dave?

What is she doing that makes her "an ass"?
Being honest.

And uppity.

And Canadian.
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Socialism = Government owns all the land and all the means of production.

Wrong!

That's Communism.

There is a difference.
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I don't know if that's entirely true. He's advocated giving everyone land at least. I don't know if that includes a strawbale hovel or if they're expected to build their own, but it's at least partially similar in principle. It's kind of amazing how he rails against socialism while at the same time advocating it. I suspect he doesn't really understand what it means.
Why is me in favor of everyone being allocated 3 or 4 Acres of good land "socialism"?

Cause it's kind of one of the definitions of socialism.
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I can guaran-fucking-tee you that the lowest labor / lowest energy / highest quality diet you will be able to come up with is something similar to what I am doing.
Do the math, don't just assert it or "guaran-fucking-tee" it. Show your work.

For one thing, it's highly unlikely an airliner will be carrying the types and numbers of animals you'd need or that they'd survive the crash.

Air Noah
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I was eavesdropping on a guy (from Ukraine or Russia) on a bus telling his companion about what a great culinary treat cow udders are. I didn't catch how you're supposed to cook them.

Udderly ridiculous.

Don't be a boob.
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Yup.

Everywhere we have a record, we have a record of not just agriculture, but mass agriculture.
Yeah. And mass propaganda. And mass enslavement. And mass warfare. And mass genocide. Hmmm ...


FAKE NEWSSSSSS !!!!11111

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Hey Dave - check your percentage math. It's much better for your argument than you are claiming.

It does support my claim that he's fucking stupid.
That's not a risky claim. Not in any way.

In some dictionaries, under Stupid they have a picture of Bluffy.

Yeah, I wasn't exactly sticking my neck out.
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The best way to get your head around this type of problem is to consider a small acreage like my 10 acres. About 8 of my Acres were actually used for corn and soybean production and we could do the math and figure out how many food calories are being produced under that model.  But to really determine how much human food ended up being produced from these 8 Acres, you have to account for the fact that almost all of the corn and soybeans produced went for farm animal feed.

In other words;

1/10 of the land used to grow animal feed converted to growing vegetable crops, would end up with the same amount of calories for humans.
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Hey Dave - check your percentage math. It's much better for your argument than you are claiming.

It does support my claim that he's fucking stupid.
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Hey mister Christ on a pogo stick I just checked and the acreage dedicated to cropland in the US is like 400 million Acres most of which I would guess are dedicated to things like corn and soybeans and wheat, whereas for tomatoes it's about 400,000 Acres IE about 10%.



:no:

:smug:
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Sustainability through gardening is given a ton of lip service in the permaculture community and there's a bunch of  knowledgeable gardeners out there but I've never met anybody who is actually producing enough total food calories from their own gardening efforts to sustain their families. Everybody grows tomatoes and lettuce and carrots and all these other things that really don't provide very many balanced food calories. Potatoes do but you can only eat so many potatoes everyday.
Ah! This is where scale comes in. All that gardening reduces demand for monoculture. If you really do want to think big, try to imagine ways to cut into the markets rather than replace them. If monoculture were reduced drastically,  is there a level at which it can be at least semi sustainable? Every garden reduces industrial ag demand by some square feet of field space. Right?
Wrong. Unless you know gardeners that are growing field corn and soybeans and hard red winter wheat. I don't know of any.
You are thinking of industrial demand. Think holistically. Those tomatoes are food. People can only eat so much food. You might be surprised to learn where most of that product goes. Did you once say you were a desciple of Michael Pollan? The systemic use of processed food is a weird beast and fresh food is an important change in the overall food system.
Those tomatoes are food, but they are very low calorie food per pound. You can't say a gardener is reducing demand for industrial agriculture by planting tomatoes. That's nonsense.
If people are buying tomatoes produced by industrial agriculture, which they obviously are, then a non-industrial agriculture source of tomatoes obviously represents a reduction of the industrial market share. What is your problem with this? It's about as straightforward as it gets.
Well I may be wrong but I don't think tomatoes are typically grown under a destructive row crop tillage model are they?  Even if they are I think they would represent a very small fraction of total Food calorie production.

The bulk of American food calories comes from grain-based products plus animals raised on grains. In other words grains are a very big deal. Corn, soybeans, wheat, Etc.

So that is why I am focused on sustainable alternatives to grain-based products which are typically grown under a destructive tillage model.

Christ on a pogo stick you're fucking stupid!!!!!!!!

How the fuck do you think they grow them?????

Take a drive around Tampa Bay sometime.
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How about "Team NEO Darwin"?

EDIT: Or maybe just "Team 2" in view of the first way, the second way, and the Third Way. I think my Android phone likes the third way because it capitalized it. Except it didn't in this sentence. Weird.



How about the more accurate "Reality Based Community".

Or, RBC for short.
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"I'd say no, the car has no parent."

Oh but it does!

Lower Tech, but a parent nonetheless.

Trump supporter.
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For no particular reason, does anyone know the definition of "hubris"?

Asking for a friend.
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Lol

The desperation!

Well, I do get desperate sometime when you keep asserting this dumb shit and show no signs whatsoever of even understanding why it is dumb let alone caring.  You don't even bother with a rebuttal. You just use big font and all caps, as though bigger font and repetition will somehow make your counter-argument for you.

You have a perfectly good brain.  Your refusal to use it is :banghead:
I disagree, Bluffy does not have a perfectly good brain. The physical apparatus may be OK, though I suspect some sort of damage, but the programming is extremely faulty. As Bluffy comically demonstrates on a regular basis.

Dave is a perfect example of how thoroughly you can permanently fuck up a persons critical thinking skills by indoctrinating them in conservative mythology before they are even old enough to set foot in a school.
Let us drill holes in the boy's heads and we will give you a man with brain damage.

Well, depending on the environment, there is a non-zero chance that it would be beneficial.
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For the conservative, the point is to validate your prejudices, not to learn.
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Lol

The desperation!

Well, I do get desperate sometime when you keep asserting this dumb shit and show no signs whatsoever of even understanding why it is dumb let alone caring.  You don't even bother with a rebuttal. You just use big font and all caps, as though bigger font and repetition will somehow make your counter-argument for you.

You have a perfectly good brain.  Your refusal to use it is :banghead:
I disagree, Bluffy does not have a perfectly good brain. The physical apparatus may be OK, though I suspect some sort of damage, but the programming is extremely faulty. As Bluffy comically demonstrates on a regular basis.

Dave is a perfect example of how thoroughly you can permanently fuck up a persons critical thinking skills by indoctrinating them in conservative mythology before they are even old enough to set foot in a school.
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It would come as news to me that scientists are doing experiments "all the time" in which they place a single bacterium into a radically different environment and it dies, yes.
Every time one lands in a hot frying pan you
Well yes, there are limits to what they can adapt to I'm sure. Lol

Wouldn't it be just crazy proof of God if they could adapt to, say, vocanic vents on the seafloor, thousands of miles from the closest land at like 750°F or so in a poison sulphur hydrothermal plume?

Obviously, God wouldn't allow something like that.

Sounds "hellish"
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Bullshit. Life's been good is a great song. Also, we don't need the ladies crying cause the story's sad.

OK, that didn't go the direction I meant :blushing:
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Have you all ever done any self reflection and noticed that most of what you say is "Bah humbug ... can't be done ... nah ... never happens ..." etc?

And have also noticed how often your negativity turns out to be wrong?
Lol.
Most recent example is "bah cells can't think."

Turns out they can though.

Did you know that table salt can think?  If you expose NaCl to water, those molecules just know that they should dissociate into ions and form an electrically conductive solution.  Do you think that is by accident?  Those atomic nuclei become positively charged, and then the atoms direct their electrons to become essentially free in a harmonious conducting soup.  With exposure to the environment that contains water, the molecules sense the presence of water and decide to break up into constituent parts.

SALT CAN THINK!


What's even worse, hydrogen atoms will pair up with their best buds and gang bang innocent single oxygen atoms.