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Quote from: Matthew Miller
I think your source isn't telling the truth. If they've worked with Nunes for long, they can fathom any level of irresponsible stupidity.
On a side note, in 2010 Nunes authored a book published by WND (WorldNetDaily) Books.

Restoring the Republic.

The cover blurb is pretty ironic, in light of ... subsequent events :
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Our republic is imperiled. At a time of unprecedented government spending, historic deficits, and gathering foreign threats, America stands at a crossroads. We can either reassert fiscal discipline and reduce the government to the size envisioned by our Founders, or we can continue on the current path of spending ourselves into oblivion ...
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Science / Re: NH winter cooling
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Earth's global surface temperatures in 2017 ranked as the second warmest since 1880, according to an analysis by NASA.
second warmest!
Hence, the trend is cooling.

Checkmate, alarmist fuckheads!
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Propaganda:
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1 capitalize : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect
See, propaganda doesn't even have to be false.
And, certainly, not all things that are false are propaganda.

But assuming (for the sake of argument) that Hawkins's concept of propaganda has anything to do with the dictionary definition, the logical conclusion is that he thinks the proposition that straw is flammable was spread for the purpose of injuring a person (to wit, him).

Which is ...

amazing.
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I mean technically he did imply a process through the examples he gave. Basically...
1. Take a claim.
2. "Test" that claim with an n=1 anecdote with no controls, repetition, or any other aspect of actual science.
3. Take whatever results from that anecdote as gospel truth.

(Unspoken corollary to step 3: If the anecdote doesn't show what Dave already believes, handwave it away.)

But there's another huge problem Hawkins is missing (or, rather, creating).
Even if he had an effective methodology for falsifying a hypothesis - a falsified hypothesis is not "propaganda".
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All the available evidence suggests Trump ordered Lewandowski to withhold testimony in an official proceeding without any formal invocation of privilege--which is a crime.
That crime being obstruction of justice, I guess.
But is that a slam-dunk?
Does it depend on what the official proceeding is?
Or how exactly that "order" was phrased and communicated?

I'm kind of amazed that witnesses can go to these hearings, simply decline to answer any question they feel like not answering, and there are no consequences.
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You asked me how I would spot propaganda. I told you. I even gave you a concrete example from my very own experience. Now I'd like to hear you give a coherent response instead of falling victim to the mountainous clouds of squid ink being dispensed right now.
You ignored mine:
I'll give you an example related to the topic of this thread. Commercial grain and dairy goats.  Almost everyone I know who owns Dairy goats says that you have to give them grain to keep them healthy. Propaganda? Or truth? How do we tell? By observation, just as you stated. Well guess what my observations have been over the past two years? They have been that this idea about Dairy goats and Grains is a myth. Propaganda. And it makes sense because grain is something you have to BUY which of course makes it in the interest of the people who sell it to promote the myth.
Putting aside for a moment the reliability of your observations, you seem to be assuming here that all statements are EITHER "propaganda" OR "truth". (See: all/none psychopathy)
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And in whose interest is it to promulgate the "propaganda" that straw is flammable?
Who - other than haters here - is pushing that insidious lie?
Borealis. To try to make me look stupid and her smart.
Well, I was including borealis among the "haters here"*.
You think this "propaganda"  -  that straw is flammable  -  originated with borealis?

* ironically, of course.
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And in whose interest is it to promulgate the "propaganda" that straw is flammable?
Who - other than haters here - is pushing that insidious lie?
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I think it's time we scraped together $20 so Dave can get laid.
I sent him a check for that.
But it was never cashed.
He must have lost it.
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Here's another one related to this thread... A couple years ago borealis said something to the effect that my straw floor was dangerous and that it would catch on fire if hot coals fell on it. I suspected that this was just propaganda motivated by the fact that Borealis doesn't like me so she tries to make me look stupid. But how do I tell for sure if it's propaganda or not? Again... As you have stated... By observation. Well what's the best way to observe in this case? Well by pouring live coals directly onto the straw floor, that's how. And guess what happened? Virtually nothing. The floor did not catch on fire. So Borealis statement was pure propaganda, nothing more. Proven so by observation.
Dave.
This post makes you look stupid.
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Ok. How about just explaining how to spot propaganda. Are there any tell tale signs that you're experiencing propaganda? Easy ways to recognize it?
I'll give you an example related to the topic of this thread. Commercial grain and dairy goats.  Almost everyone I know who owns Dairy goats says that you have to give them grain to keep them healthy. Propaganda? Or truth? How do we tell? By observation, just as you stated. Well guess what my observations have been over the past two years? They have been that this idea about Dairy goats and Grains is a myth. Propaganda. And it makes sense because grain is something you have to BUY which of course makes it in the interest of the people who sell it to promote the myth.
Putting aside for a moment the reliability of your observations, you seem to be assuming here that all statements are EITHER "propaganda" OR "truth". (See: all/none psychopathy)
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See how that works?
Do you see how it doesn't?
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Nope.  I waste too much time on that sort of stuff as it is.  I'm interested the these thread topics I've started.  If you want to discuss something else, start a new thread.
How is talking about how Democrats and the Media are not interested in truth, only their selfish agendas, and how you are the most truthful person ever with the possible exception of Donald Trump - discussing the thread topic here?
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Also I think I am doing a service to humanity by warning people about blind guides like you.
well that's pretty delusional since every single reader of your words here seems to think Pingu is a pretty good scientist, that you suck at it, and that you are a complete asshole into the bargain.
So truth is determined by majorities?
Truth is determined by observation. :)
That's better. Thank you for acknowledging that.
You seem to have missed the point.
Let's go back how you think you're providing a service to humanity.
Do you think that's working pretty well?
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Also I think I am doing a service to humanity by warning people about blind guides like you.
well that's pretty delusional since every single reader of your words here seems to think Pingu is a pretty good scientist, that you suck at it, and that you are a complete asshole into the bargain.
So truth is determined by majorities?
It sure as hell isn't determined by you.
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Hawkins seems to think this "truth" he's constantly braying about is defined as whatever words he says.
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Also I think I am doing a service to humanity by warning people about blind guides like you.
well that's pretty delusional since every single reader of your words here seems to think Pingu is a pretty good scientist, that you suck at it, and that you are a complete asshole into the bargain.
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From the "Messianic Fantasies of Saving the World" thread.
But it seemed like it was just aching to be copied to the "Self-Righteous Men" thread:

I'm actually the most truthful human you've ever encountered in your life.

Possibly only exceeded in truthfulness and the boldness to proclaim it by Donald Trump.
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I'm actually the most truthful human you've ever encountered in your life.

Possibly only exceeded in truthfulness and the boldness to proclaim it by Donald Trump.
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  They are like the Democrats and the Media who only care about their selfish agendas ... not truth.
I doubt you understand the density of the irony packed into those few words.
But I doubt anyone else fails to.

I do believe you are the most hypocritical human I have ever encountered in my entire life.
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I'm not pretending.  It DOES support my argument.  As for your bacteria argument, I never even bothered to try to understand it.  Why should I?  Maybe you should sell me on why I should be interested in that.
Yet you quoted a snippet from it, stripped of context, as if it supported your position.

And you don't see a problem with that.

It's not JUST that you suck at science; you also have to be a complete ass about it.
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If you did in fact make that calculation and I used your number exactly without modifying it, then what's the problem?
Same problem you {falsely} accused others of just a few hours ago.
Narcissistic asymmetry on steroids.
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So your excuse for excising the number from its context is that you didn't understand what that context was?
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Facepalm.

So, having been told that snipping just a bit of the post that he liked while ignoring the main argument is dishonest, Dave goes and does exactly that again.
it's not dishonest at all. We do that everyday with Snippets from articles from Wikipedia and so on.
It's not the "snippeting" that makes a quote-mine. It's excising it from its context to change the meaning.
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One of you people's big problems is that you make up your own private definitions of terms such as for the term quote mine.

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That's not a quote mine. Not even close.
Says the guy who proudly advertises the Henry Morris's compendium of quote mines on his blog.
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You evidently don't know what the definition of a quote mine is.
It's quite possible he doesn't know the davinition of quote mine.
But it is certain that YOU are unfamiliar with the definition.