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Messages - borealis

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Politics and Current Events / Re: #FyreFestival
the tag line is a killer http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/04/fyre-festival-exumas-bahamas-disaster.html
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And baby, they forgot to make me sign an NDA.
Haha -
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"Let's just do it and be legends, man."
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Politics and Current Events / Re: #FyreFestival
 :parrot: :parrot: I had just posted the Telegraph story about this at mindromp. :hehe:
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Dave, in the best farms anywhere, farmers will always have the problem that you cannot control everything, especially when dealing with living creatures. There is no perfection, mammals have intrinsic intelligence and individual motivation. In the best of worlds, they will sometimes follow their desires, or the fence will have a weakness, or they will injure themselves or each other, or catch a disease. Good farmers deal with these problems as they arise, and expect they will occasionally arise. But there has to be some sense of balance, and that is what you lack. You identified two of your own desires - an evenly foraged pasture and no fencing - and have responded to them by creating an abnormal and cruel device to suit your desires. You don't care about your animals' comfort, not about giving them as normal a life as possible on a farm, you are blasé when they die or escape or get ill. This makes your path forward little better than factory farming.
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If you morons really want to start a campaign against animal cruelty, there are plenty of places for you to go do that.  Have you ever studied up on the dairy industry?  How about the feedlot industry? Do you realize that those cattle would die very young from liver failure if they weren't killed first for beef?  And don't even get me started on concentration camp chicken.  Some of you people really need to go seek professional help.
None of that excuses you own cruelty Dave
There is no animal cruelty happening on my property.  Quite the opposite.  You are a liar.
That is your unsupported opinion, Dave. The rest of us are of the opinion that your goat cage is an unnecessarily confining abomination that offers inadequate winter shelter for very little return. All because you are too mean and/or lazy to build adequate fencing or train your goats to tolerate tethering. The miniscule (if any) benefit to your pasture is not worth it.

Once again, you conflate disagreeing or disapproving with lying. They are not the same thing.
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So ... now in addition to being an expert on rotational grazing and "how Dave should do it correctly" ... Borealis is now also an expert on International Trade.

Lol

This should be fun.
Enjoy your ongoing ignorance about your pasture. I've seen enough pics of it by now to know that it almost exclusively contains a standard mix of domesticated hay type grasses. Since you don't let your goats browse the edges or the woods, not really a problem, though it sucks for the goats.

You're pretty much the only person I've ever encountered who delights in being a know-nothing.
I know a lot about things which actually matter to me.  But not much about things like under water basket weaving.
So why are you such an insulting ass about other people knowing a lot about things that matter to them?
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I will say at the outset of this little segment ... *I* am most certainly NOT an expert on international trade ... but I do have one advantage ... I have functioning frontal lobes.  I have not yet submitted to the knife in a university PhD program.
I have told you before that I have not got a PhD, or even a Master's degree. So fuck off with your stupid jabs.

I've never said I'm an expert on international trade, but I'm a reasonably well informed normally intelligent person who isn't prone to falling for utter bullshit. You, unfortunately, are.
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So ... now in addition to being an expert on rotational grazing and "how Dave should do it correctly" ... Borealis is now also an expert on International Trade.

Lol

This should be fun.
Enjoy your ongoing ignorance about your pasture. I've seen enough pics of it by now to know that it almost exclusively contains a standard mix of domesticated hay type grasses. Since you don't let your goats browse the edges or the woods, not really a problem, though it sucks for the goats.

You're pretty much the only person I've ever encountered who delights in being a know-nothing.
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So it appears to me that Trump is going to accomplish what his predecessor failed to do... Renegotiate NAFTA to make a better deal for the US.  And yeah ... He will have done it by playing poker basically.
jesus christ you are an idiot.
He has lots of company - the Great Negotiator softening up the opposition/playing chess/poker theme is the common reaction from Trump fanatics. Then you read their posts and realise the painful depth of their ignorance about... well, everything relevant.
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NAFTA isn't technically a treaty afaik.

Trudeau confirmed his call.


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Media reports about a withdrawal appeared Wednesday morning. By the end of the day, Trump had engaged in phone talks with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.

At a farm event in Gray, Sask., on Thursday morning, Trudeau said Trump had been thinking about cancelling the deal. 


"I highlighted that, quite frankly, that whether or not there was a better deal to come, there were an awful lot of jobs, an awful lot of industries right now that have been developed under the NAFTA context.

"Disruption like cancelling NAFTA, even if theoretically [it] eventually might lead to better outcomes, would cause a lot of short- and medium-term pain for a lot of families," Trudeau said, adding both leaders were elected on platforms of helping, not hurting.

Media reports about a withdrawal appeared Wednesday morning. By the end of the day, Trump had engaged in phone talks with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.

At a farm event in Gray, Sask., on Thursday morning, Trudeau said Trump had been thinking about cancelling the deal. 


"I highlighted that, quite frankly, that whether or not there was a better deal to come, there were an awful lot of jobs, an awful lot of industries right now that have been developed under the NAFTA context.

"Disruption like cancelling NAFTA, even if theoretically [it] eventually might lead to better outcomes, would cause a lot of short- and medium-term pain for a lot of families," Trudeau said, adding both leaders were elected on platforms of helping, not hurting.

Legal debates continue over whether the U.S. president could end the free trade deal without congressional approval.

"NAFTA was implemented through domestic legislation. The president can't repeal that," said Simon Lester, a trade policy analyst with the Cato Institute in Washington, a policy think-tank that advocates for free markets. "This would definitely be pushing the boundaries ... there would be some pushback."

Trudeau's call was characterized by a government source as partly an effort to ask for clarification after the news reports, and partly an attempt to help Trump help himself by reiterating messages previously shared with the Americans about the mutual economic destruction that would result from rash or politically motivated decision-making.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-trudeau-nafta-renegotiation-1.4088545


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And you certainly know nothing about Justin Trudeau and the Liberal party of Canada. They are neither pushovers nor fools. I know this and they aren't even my party of choice.
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So it appears to me that Trump is going to accomplish what his predecessor failed to do... Renegotiate NAFTA to make a better deal for the US.  And yeah ... He will have done it by playing poker basically.
You complete ass, read some of my posts. Canada and mexico have been up for renegotiating all along. It's been done before. He hasn't 'played poker', he's just been stupid.

And if you think he'll get a 'better deal for the US', you're dreaming. You know nothing about the process, and you know nothing about Canada or Mexico.

Running a superpower is not a goddamned game, Dave.
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"Hehe ... Mexicans and Canadians"

So do you think Trump was lying today when he said both presidents called him up wanting to renegotiate NAFTA?
Don't be dense. Renegotiating/tweaking NAFTA has been done a number of times in the past, and both Mexico and Canada stated during the campaign that they were open (eager) to negotiating a better trade deal. Portions of it become obsolete or tech/industry overtakes what is covered.

They calld him to remind him, since he apparently has the memory of a fruit fly, and to explain to him what shutting it down suddenly would do to a lot of states' jobs and incomes.

You think, and so do a lot of your dumber compatriots, that Trump was 'softening them up' to 'get a better deal'. It doesn't work that way, sunshine. All he accomplished was to look like a braying moron to his neighbours and the world, frighten a lot of American farmers, and cause a brief glitch in the Canadian dollar and the peso - that last because no one knows whether he's serious about anything he says he'll do - he might and he might not.

As I said before and you didn't read, he is losing trade for Americans further down the road, as Canada and Mexico will continue to pursue quite successfully trade elsewhere on the planet. because it's quite evident now that we cannot any longer trust the US not to elect an untrustworthy bellowing crazy person to their highest office.
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That is what Dave believes, that leaders of other nations would be impressed by a tarted up golf club/resort in Florida.

Meanwhile, American farmers flipping out over Trump messing with NAFTA:

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Upon learning about the Trump administration's executive order regarding NAFTA, the US Grains Council released a statement admonishing such a move by the White House.
"We are shocked and distressed," the statement reads. "Mexico and Canada are among our largest and most loyal grain export markets, and our organization has worked closely with partners in both countries for more than 30 years."
Pork farmers in the US exported more than $1.1 billion in pork products to Mexico in 2016. They exported more than $779 million in pork to Canada. The US Meat Export Federation anticipated the Trump administration would try to negotiate parts of NAFTA, but it has cautioned tinkering with the deal.
"NAFTA has delivered for US red meat exports," the group has said. "It is very likely NAFTA will be reopened for discussion, and at that point the US industry must be prepared to defend the favorable terms currently in place for US meat."

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-farmers-who-helped-elect-trump-say-they-%E2%80%9Cwill-never-recover%E2%80%9D-if-he-trashes-nafta/ar-BBAqB55?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp
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Dave's not alone with this 'Art of the Deal' nonsense, it's the line many Trump enthusiasts are spouting, at least on the internet. And it's so outrageously blind to reality. "heh heh, that'll soften up the Canadians and Mexicans, we'll get whatever we want outta this deal". The implication is that people in foreign lands are too goddamned dumb to recognise arrogant bluster when they see it, or are easily swayed by Trump's dumb shit-talking. It's insulting. What we see is a destabilised trading partner led by a certifiable dimwit who wields too much power to be ignored, but is surrounded by politicians who do want to be re-elected in their home states, and that ain't gonna happen if Trump's outrageous behaviour starts tanking their state's economies.

No 'softening up' is going to happen. It took one day for Trump to change his tune. You can bet that a few very influential people around Trump took him aside and told him to cut that shit right out for a while.
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"Yesterday he was going to leave NAFTA. Today he isn't. What did he accomplish?"

He he ...

Read "Art of the Deal."
You really are simple.

He accomplished, as I've already stated, a negative effect on businesses in many states and countries that have built their assets and interactions based on the stable trade relationships signified and regulated by NAFTA. This is bad for many economies, including the US and particularly impacting border states.

Do you really think he accomplished a 'softening up' of Mexican and Canadian negotiators and leaders? If so, you are as delusional as Trump is. Canada and Mexico are diversifying trade partners as fast as they can - not good for the US. Canada in particular is ready to renegotiate whenever Trump stops flipflopping, because we'd like to get a few more environmental and labour protections in there. There are 35 states that do most of their import/export business with Canada, billions of dollars worth. Pulling out of NAFTA would turn their economies upside down. As usual, Trump has no clue, and is only responding to the xenophobic whining of a few states whose economically screwed (not by NAFTA) citizens figure any deal with any country must be bad. Also, Mexicans.
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On Wednesday, the Trump administration launched a new office called VOICE to assist victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants as part of the president's executive order to curtail illegal immigration.


People started sharing the hotline's number, telling others to call and report how they've been victimized by space aliens.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/people-bombarded-trumps-new-criminal-alien-hotline-with?
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The rest of the world doesn't find this amusing, Dave. Trump is a literal bull in the china shop, and every time he blunders around, things get cracked and broken. Yesterday he was going to leave NAFTA. Today he isn't. What did he accomplish? Scaring the shit out of countries, states, and businesses that depend on NAFTA stability, Stocks in such businesses took a little dive, banks hesitated on loans. WTF good did he accomplish, other than to reinforce the idea that he (and therefore the US) is unstable and unpredictable? That's NOT a good look for a nation.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
We interrupt this thread for a huge thank fuck message from Canada:

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Kevin O'Leary is dropping out of the Conservative leadership race and will endorse Maxime Bernier.
The businessman and reality TV star is ending his campaign only hours before the last leadership debate in Toronto, and two days before party members can start casting their ballots.
O'Leary is confident he could win the Conservative race, but now believes he cannot defeat Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in the next election, multiple sources tell CBC News.
He has cited his failure to gain traction in Quebec and his poor French-language skills as reasons for dropping out of the leadership race.
"I have extremely high likelihood of winning the leadership race, but no way to win the election because of Quebec," he said in an interview with the Globe & Mail on Wednesday. "You have to win 30 seats. So, who can do that? It's Bernier."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/kevin-oleary-drops-out-endorses-bernier-1.4086583
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Science / Re: Earliest humans in NA
sasquatch.
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I'm actually fairly upset with Trump right now for flip flopping about Wikileaks.
Wut?
pussy-grabbing didn't bother you
making sexual comments about his daughter didn't bother you
assaulting his wife didn't bother you
encouraging his supporters to beat up protesters didn't bother you
lining his pockets with taxpayers' money didn't bother you
colluding with the Russians didn't bother you
appointing actual Nazis and racists to government positions didn't bother you
destroying vital government departments didn't bother you
a hundred other gaffes and missteps didn't bother you

but flipflopping on that worm Assange, that bothers you?



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Bobcat = input?
When you say "when I say inputs I mean animal feed" 400 times and you still get comments like this, it really makes you wonder what people are smoking.
maybe you should begin saying 'no animal feed' instead of 'no inputs', since in most of the English speaking world, 'no inputs' means 'no inputs'.
Most people in the English speaking world think lots of stupid things.
Nevertheless, if you want to communicate with them, you have to use words that mean the same thing to both you and them.
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Bobcat = input?
When you say "when I say inputs I mean animal feed" 400 times and you still get comments like this, it really makes you wonder what people are smoking.
maybe you should begin saying 'no animal feed' instead of 'no inputs', since in most of the English speaking world, 'no inputs' means 'no inputs'.
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Sounds like Stewart is Foghorn Leghorn's evil twin. :ohmy:
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
They think that's a good thing. :thisisfine:
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
That does it. The bastard is after our wine now:
Except this was happening before Trump.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/u-s-launches-trade-action-against-canada-over-b-c-wine-sales

Now you are giving him credit for this as well?

Did you think I was unaware of the history of trade disputes? He gets credit for renewed stupidity, and the timing says it's all for show.