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Messages - el jefe

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sounds like the decision to delay emboldened several gop senators who didn't like the bill but were under pressure to keep their mouths shut
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heller also said something about it being "really hard" for him to get to yes
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https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/grenfell-tower-still-a-fire-risk/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/grenfell-tower-the-kctmo-culture-of-negligence/

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/grenfell-tower-fire/
Wow! Just WOW!

I thought England was a civilized country. One where you make sure your buildings, especially housing, especially housing for the less fortunate, are safe and secure.

In most jurisdictions in the US, this building would not be allowed to be occupied and, given the cost of making it safe would likely be much greater than that of just tearing it down and starting over, it'd probably get condemned.

What I don't get is:
1) why no fire sprinklers?
2) why the allowance of non-fire-rated exterior cladding, specifically cladding without an adequate flame spread rating?
3) why weren't there effective fire barriers between units, between units and corridors (means of egress), between everything else and the stairs (means of egress) and between floors?
4) why was there not effective and immediate building-wide notification of a fire and direction to evacuate the building?
5) why didn't the fire crews arrive before the massive spread of the fire? Note - I'm not necessarily accusing the fire crews, it could well be they were not informed on a timely basis or that the alarm was inaccurate as to the situation, or maybe their equipment is old or whatever, but with proper and timely alarm (which would, in a building of this size and use, include an automatic fire department alert), good equipment and effective training and support and, of course, appropriate fire suppression and resistance, a modern fire crew or crews should have been able to successfully interdict. Basically control the fire and put it out. My impression is it's rarely the crews that are at fault.

This really is an inexcusable tragedy, I can only hope the Crown will make an stunning example of such callous behavior on the part of its subordinates.
the plot has been owned by the same peer family since the middle ages, so it got grandfathered in under building codes that only require a separate quarantine room for people with the plague.
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it may be elitist to say trump was more popular with uneducated people.  that doesn't mean it isn't true.
The elitism may be expressed in assumed reasons as to why more uneducated people voted Trump. I don't know what those might be.

The electoral riding I live in is one of the poorest educated in the province. It includes the largest number of functionally illiterate adults. Voter turnout is average. I've lived here for 25 years, and in that time I've seen no evidence of people voting against their best interests, nor voting strictly on party lines. (I realise Canadians /= Americans).

So what did lead uneducated people to vote for trump, aside from xenophobia etc.?
the best I can give is unsupported, subjective impressions. 

I do think we have a "cult of ignorance" in this country.  i.e., a subculture that actually believes knowledge is somehow bad.  "it's all bullshit".  or it's somehow unwise or immoral to learn things.  some of it is creationists being mad at science for saying genesis is wrong.  some of it is distrust of the social activism and social change that emanates from college campuses.  (questioning things is seen as arrogant or perverse or something.  the ideal is to be a "simple man".)   some of it is just dunning kruger.  and probably some blame goes on the fact that we just have a shitty educational system.

I don't get the sense other countries have an equivalent of this.  or at least their ignorance cults aren't as big and pleased with themselves as ours. 

anyway, trump is a big dumbass, whose candidacy offered the (depressingly bad) message that ignorance is worthy of respect.  ignorant people, sick and tired of being told that ignorance is bad, got an enabler.  for them, it felt like an oasis in the desert.
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*gives gunner a wedgie*
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haha, look at the nerds
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it may be elitist to say trump was more popular with uneducated people.  that doesn't mean it isn't true.
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trump has Tough Guy appeal, for people who aren't over high school.
Hate to break it to you el jefe, but nobody gets over high school.
nah.  some do, some don't.

at the very least, a lot of people outgrow the pathetic dynamic of "I have no confidence, so I'm going to latch onto someone who does and seek their approval."  I think going to college has a lot to do with that.  people find themselves and get comfortable in their own skin.  people who don't go to college tend to never have that experience.
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trump has Tough Guy appeal, for people who aren't over high school.  in my experience, those people have a lot of overlap with people who didn't go to college, and trump did especially well with less educated people, so that all hangs together in my mind.
I want somebody who is expert at this sort of thing to do a detailed breakdown of Trump's body language.  Considering the fact that the verbal component of his communication is generally gibberish, body language is pretty much what's left.
(Eddie Izzard says) psychologists say communication is like 70% how you look, 20% how you sound, and 10% what you're actually saying.

like I've said before, people who actually pay attention to what words are being said and what they mean are a weirdo minority.  there really is an elite bubble, and people in it really do have a blindspot for the specific ways in which the majority of people are soft headed, feel-good shitheads. 

if, for example, it sincerely bothers you that trump doesn't speak in complete sentences, you are part of this weirdo minority that comes off as aspie or w/e to other people.  many people will forgive that as long as they get what he's trying to say; their line is when they can't even figure out what he's trying to say.  then there are people for whom even that is ok.  no discernable point?  pure gibberish?  no problem.  ooh look, there's something shiny over there.
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Trump isn't 'charismatic' either. I suspect a lot of gullible, shallow people voted in all innocence (a lot of people cannot get their heads around paying real attention to politicians of any stripe) for the reality TV version of Trump,
much as it unsettles me to say this, being able to sell people on this image so successfully suggests a certain degree of charisma.
trump has Tough Guy appeal, for people who aren't over high school.  in my experience, those people have a lot of overlap with people who didn't go to college, and trump did especially well with less educated people, so that all hangs together in my mind.
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and she is known for being full of policy minutiae, if nothing else
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trump tweet calling mcconnell a pathetic loser, in 3....  2...
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CBO Analysis Endangers GOP Health-Care Bill

It's so cute that someone actually believes this.
I believe it.

gop politicians say publicly that the CBO is garbage and they don't trust its numbers, but they behave as if they really do take it seriously.  and even if their district or state is full of hillbillies who hate "obamacare" for symbolic reasons, if a large number of said hillbillies end up losing coverage because of medicaid cuts or the re-legalization of pre-existing conditons, they will not be happy about it, and are likely to blame their congressman or senator.  therefore, any smart congressman or senator is going to take these numbers very seriously.
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^5

I mean its all theater at this point lol if you think it won't pass
I'm holding out hope, but not a ton
I'm getting more hopeful.  I initially dismissed these "opposed" republican senators as mostly either planned theater, or just posturing to negotiate a better deal on the details, or as having honest but fixable objections.  but two things have made me take their objections more seriously:

1) a trump-allied super pac is running attack ads against them for signaling opposition.  that suggests to me that someone(s) important, probably with inside knowledge, thinks these objections are for real, and the senators need to be pressured into getting on board.

2)  5 republican senators plan to vote against opening debate on the bill.  this is a filibuster.  and a majority filibuster (including all the democrats) that mcconnel can't even nuclear his way past.  ....  this is signficant, because they are running out of time before their recess.  and the longer a bill lingers in congress, the more it stinks.  any delay is considered a significant risk to whether this one gets passed at all.  the fact that these senators are willing to do this suggests to me they really might be considering killing the thing.

3?) a possible third piece of evidence is this tweet by trump

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/339332-trump-i-cannot-imagine-gop-senators-dont-back-healthcare-bill

...though it depends on how you read it.  I suppose it is possible he is just thinking out loud and predicting victory.  however, I'm more inclined to read it as a backhanded threat to hang failure to repeal obamacare on these opposing republican senators. if so, it suggests to me trump himself is worried their opposition is sincere.
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in fulfillment of the scriptures
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I can't tell the difference between hillary and trump
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Supreme court
have they ruled on the gerrymandering thing yet?
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
that will work out fine.  80% odds.
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I think everyone agrees on that.  and not just as generic knee-jerk cynicism, but as a serious, considered thought.
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how many times do we have to go over the pre-existing conditions thing and how it's meaningless if you gut EHBs
5 would be a nice, round number
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fortunately, they've had to soften it a bit to get it passed.  combined with the delayed implementation, there may be opportunities to reverse this giant leap backwards before it hurts too many people
What exactly are the "softenings"?
they cut subsidies less and more gradually, and in some cases replace them with tax credits.  they don't scrap the preexisting condition ban outright, they let individual states choose.  they also create high risk pools to partly make up for the partial scrapping of the pre-existing ban and the weakening of required coverage standards and annual and lifetime caps, etc.

these are stingy, half-assed policies that fall way short.  this bill would (will?) be a disaster.  I'm just looking for ways it could have been worse and wasn't.  what I am hoping survives here is people's expectations, which now include expanded public assistance and better coverage.  the more intact those remain, the easier it will be, politically, for a future democratic administration to fix trump's damage.
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fortunately, they've had to soften it a bit to get it passed.  combined with the delayed implementation, there may be opportunities to reverse this giant leap backwards before it hurts too many people