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No, DL. I truly believe it is a bad idea to follow personalities. I read very widely and have since I learned to read. Most of the people you refer to are men, and ime, most of them have at least some beliefs that collide with mine.

Can you link me to something written? I can't currently watch videos and don't like them much anyway.

Apologies, I cannot do better than your own use of google.

Bill does have transcripts though. This site does not work well for me but might be ok for your system.

www.hiddenmeanings.com

Regards
DL




I can use the site. It is terribly organised and every third or fourth thing you look at is a beggar's bowl asking for monetary support

What attracts you to this person's views? I haven't looked at a lot of it, but it appears to be a collection of New Age truisms and photos cadged from all over the internet. Much of it is very trite, and some of it sounds distressingly like the material used by Divine Light Mission (afterwards Elan Vital), an exploitive Indian cult that swept North America and Britain in the 70s. What am I missing, that you see?

His esoteric views and how he interprets scriptures from that esoteric and allegorical POV.

Not all of them but most of the ones that I have seen him speak about on you tube. A pity you cannot view those.

Regards
DL
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Gnostics are worse than filthy muslims. Take my advice, don't trust them alone with children and don't hire them as valet car parkers.

Thanks for showing us your ignorance of Gnostic Christianity.

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DL
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What are ya gonna do, tell God what to do?

Yes, this is the core issue: control.

Can we exert our own cognitive control over the motivational control of a supernatural being?


The scriptures say yes but theists are ignoring their moral sense for their tribalism.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

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DL

Why would you accept the word of a god you don't revere?

Even the vilest God, like Yahweh, will sometimes give good advice.

As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, I am charged to be a perpetual seeker after God, so that I might become a Parfait.
I have to cherry pick from all ideologies so as to find the best rules and laws to live by.

As has been said, the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian and we are perpetually redefining what good is.

You have heard that from a Parfait WIP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4
 
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DL
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No, DL. I truly believe it is a bad idea to follow personalities. I read very widely and have since I learned to read. Most of the people you refer to are men, and ime, most of them have at least some beliefs that collide with mine.

Can you link me to something written? I can't currently watch videos and don't like them much anyway.

Apologies, I cannot do better than your own use of google.

Bill does have transcripts though. This site does not work well for me but might be ok for your system.

www.hiddenmeanings.com

Regards
DL


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This Bill Donahue?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Donohue

If so, I think he's often a rather horrible person with horrible ideas. He has defended the sexual abuse of children by priests, is a homophobe, regards marriage as solely for producing children (though himself a divorced Catholic), and has other reprehensible views.

I haven't got any favourite esoteric personalities. I have found that it is common for people to select 'gurus' that appeal to them, or that mirror their own opinions in some manner. But having found such a person, they let themselves be bound to whatever issues forth from that person's sayings or writings, and soon enough you have cultish thinking that subverts individual truth seeking and makes the mind lazy.

No. This Bill.

Ihad to take the prefix off to show it. Just add it in to get the full address.
 
youtube.com/channel/UCinvwSeMdmuuzyMWrS0tGTg

As to your commentary.
It would be strange indeed to pick a guru that one did not like.

Your vagueness indicates that you do not know much of the esoteric world or you would likely have a guru that you liked, or at least preferred.

Regards
DL


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Talk to the Calvinists, GIA. They have the answer to your question, but you're not gonna like it. Even the Calvinists don't like it, but whaddaya gunna do?

Show the answer as I do not know where you found what you recommend I seek.

Regards
DL

I am serious. You should talk to an erudite, theologically educated Calvinist about the meaning of the word 'holy' as applied to God. I'm not really equipped to sufficiently explain. I will say that at its core is the understanding that what is called God is not human, and cannot be understood by humans, and that its morality (as such) is not human nor even describable as morality in human terms. Morals are for humans, not for God.

God as imagined by Calvin's followers is so far removed from the humans it created that humans cannot in any way imagine the real purposes, thoughts, or powers of God, or perceive anything of God unless God intends it. And nothing a human does can in even the slightest regard change what God has, does, and will intend.

See Monergism for an aspect of this perception of God:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monergism

Now, I am an agnostic person with an interest in theology, it is a hobby. So from that position, when I see you rail against various aspects of theism, I see that you are not very well versed in some of the truly esoteric doctrines that underlie (and of which most theists are ignorant, because really clerics do not discuss them much with congregations, or even pay much attention to them themselves, because a great deal of it is quite disturbing when contemplated) the Abrahamic faiths, and perhaps Christianity in particular.

So because I see you thusly, you appear as a little bird battering against a window, thinking it is air because you can't see it. You are angry with the end product, one might even call it the waste product, of theology, because you have failed to understand how truly desolate is the philosophy that lies behind the outward aspects of religious behaviour.

You have many assumptions of me which are mostly wrong.

As an esoteric ecumenist, my belief system is all about the esoteric. I seldom bother discussing it with theists as they do not have a clue about that. One of my favorite esoteric and allegorical teachers is Bill Donahue. He and I have the same type of temperament which I like. I also think him quite entertaining. I like to compare.

Who is your favorite esoteric personality?

Regards
.DL
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What are ya gonna do, tell God what to do?

Yes, this is the core issue: control.

Can we exert our own cognitive control over the motivational control of a supernatural being?


The scriptures say yes but theists are ignoring their moral sense for their tribalism.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Regards
DL
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Talk to the Calvinists, GIA. They have the answer to your question, but you're not gonna like it. Even the Calvinists don't like it, but whaddaya gunna do?

Show the answer as I do not know where you found what you recommend I seek.

Regards
DL
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How and why can people ignore their God's immoral ways?

I find it quite strange that Christian, Muslims and Jews can ignore the immoral ways that their God is shown to have in the Bible, Qur'an and Talmud.

If you have read any of the critical books on God, you will have seen God described with some rather disingenuous terms that, if applied to a man, would see that man executed by any moral government in quick order. The Buddhist saying that if you ever meet God, kill him seems quite fitting. Frankly, I think killing him without making him suffer for a time would be too good for him. If hell were real, that would be a better end for him as mankind would surely need to see that torture to gain real closure for God's crimes against humanity. This aside.

I can appreciate the value for society of local churches, mosques and temples but cannot fathom why lying priests, preachers and imams try to sell their God as a good God, when he is obviously more satanic than Satan. Perhaps scripture speak at least one truth in that the whole world would be deceived by Satan and his lying preachers and imams. Not that I believe in Satan.

As a Gnostic Christian, my focus has been to try to become a Parfait, a perfected moral man, using the methods Jesus taught. It has been a long climb up Jacob's ladder and apotheosis put me up one rung and I have tried to climb higher, but seem to have stalled due to my inability to find arguments that are persuasive enough to loosen Satan's grip on the minds of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Their need of fellowship is stronger than their work on their moral sense and they stay in their religions even though they know that their God is immoral and not worthy of their idol worship. This Gnostic Christian truth is not a flattering epithet for God, which is likely what cause their destruction by Inquisition.

The truth hurts the religious even when given with a loving touch. I am not that good at that but have seen good honest lovers of Christ get verbally abused by theists. They think hate is motivating those who speak against their God even when love is the motivator. Hate is born of love, and the Gnostic hate of God is justified on moral grounds, and the attempted correction of a believers moral sense and their thinking is done out of love. They forget that that is how Jesus was and how that love driven expression of hate with what he saw around him almost got him killed at the hands of the Jews. So the myth says.

The fact that I have had many theists resist entering into moral argument of their God indicates that they know that their God is immoral. I can appreciate that once a person accepts the fellowship that his tribal nature seeks, and he can survive without having better morals, he is loath to jeopardize the comfort zone he has created for himself. The problem is that theists are living in self-deception and for one who seeks or has attained Gnosis, a deeper knowing of himself, self-deception is basically not allowed. That is why I have to bother fighting a fight that is almost un-winnable.

If you have an answer to the question I posed at the onset, please enlighten me as I am quite disappointed to see so many living in self-deception and without Gnosis, and following Gods who are demonstrably more Satan like than God like.

In the terrible days that we will face from environmental degradation that will soon be upon us, a new and moral God will be required and we presently do not have one.

I recognize that our tribal and fellowship needs are quite strong and a part of our basic instincts. Do you have any idea as to how we can break Satan's hold on Christians, Muslims and Jews and change their fellowship and tribal needs to a need for a God with decent moral values?

Regards
DL
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Water off a ducks back compared to nukes.

Regards
DL
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Thanks all.

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DL
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I am nuke proof. I hope yar 2.

I enjoyed a good chuckle the other day when a friend of mine, with a Southern drawl spoke to me.

Thars gonna be some nuken on this cheer earth. King of the terrorist Trump gonna see to thatun thare chore. He be itching for a fight don'tcha know. He gonna tell everyone to fight or shut up real soon.

Trust me now when I say this. Listen good ifin you can. I am nuke proof. I hope yar 2. We gotta do something. Our leaders are incompetent to beat the band.
  
Terrorism is a puny thang as compared to what's to come from the likes of Trump, Kim Jung -Un et all leaders in the U.N.
 
The U.N is not , perhaps cannot, do it's job of brokering peace. All because everyone thinks themselves right about something or other. Insane right?

Trump, terrorist and other vigilantes are a puny problem, as compared killing machines like the forces at hand in the U.S.A. Trump will show then tell.

As usual, the U.S.A. will use war to quiet the fracturing of society that is presently happening in the world. God has truly abandoned us.
   
All of the political and spiritual Gods and all their minions will flee, that is all people, if Trump gets peeved.

I am nuke proof. Are you?

Regards
DL
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Will Muslims love Trump? They are whiny little bitches just like him.

You Owe Us an Apology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJATBMebj8

Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0WZ_iU&feature=youtu.be

Brand New Leather Jacket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_lhlIn1e0

I like Trump better than the average right wing Muslim though. He just grabs pussy; he does not get the knife ready for a clitorectomy.

All that aside; I think that we should all apologise to every Muslim we meet. After all, we do not want to have them stop buying our weapons and stop killing each other and turn against us.

Oh wait. They just might have already done that, given the numbers.
 
http://www.therebel.media/tiffany_gabbay_april_19

Regards
DL
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The cell phone is one of the rudest pieces of technology ever developed in our modern times.
What are the other rude technologies?

That would be subjective so best to have your own.

Regards
DL
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are cell phones more or less destructive to society than OP being a worthless racist piece of shit?

You are quite hard on yourself.

Regards
DL
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Face to face, not face to phone. Cell phones will increase our destructive hive living natures.

Cell phones are killing our social skills. The cell phone is one of the rudest pieces of technology ever developed in our modern times. To see a family of four sitting at a dinner table and all four members are texting and avoiding the bonding that should be taking place, instead of the silence that occurs; is one of society's greatest failures. Friends are out for a night on the town and everyone has their phone out, texting and not having meaningful conversations that would be more rewarding. We cannot speak in complete sentences without the use of acronyms and do not look at others directly in their eyes while speaking to them. This society is losing the art of pure communication.

We are mammals, but we are making ourselves into that less favorable condition of hive living creatures.

Are cell phones controlling our way of life?

I say yes.

Regards
DL
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Only the foolish today do not recognize that the rich rule the world.

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DL
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Because socialism is bad.

So all the Western nations that have it are socialist systems.
Thanks for showing your intelligence.

Regards
DL

I can't think of a counter-example, offhand; Can you?


Many.

Regards
DL
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A worm in the apple of liberty.

LOL.

Liberty is not what your oligarchy provides.

Regards
DL
I'm pretty sure your wrong.

I mean after I got my slippers on and sat down in my Lay-Z-Boy with some tea and toast for dinner I saw a piece on Fox about a Heritage Action report saying we had the highest freedom index in the entire world and if that wasn't enough proof right after was a Rasmussen poll showing a majority of people agreed with Heritage Action.

Tucker Carlson looks pretty trustworthy.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhZdGw-OM3M

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DL
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A worm in the apple of liberty.

LOL.

Liberty is not what your oligarchy provides.

Regards
DL
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Because socialism is bad.

So all the Western nations that have it are socialist systems.
Thanks for showing your intelligence.

Regards
DL

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Why are U.S. citizens ignoring the 6% gain on GDP, by not nationalizing health care?

Statistics show that the average U.S. citizen pays considerably more for their, --- bankruptcy creating inhumane medical system, --- than other countries who have nationalized health care. The gain in GDP is around 3%.

It follows economies of scale gains are likely to be about 3%. If a penny saved is a penny earned, I am justified in saying that there would be a 6% saving to the average U.S. citizen.

Why are Americans wasting such a huge amount of gains, when going single payer could bring such a huge gain to each American?

I ask all my Yankee friends; what the hell? Recognize that single payer, pays great dividends.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries/

Regards
DL