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This was sorted through already in the immigration thread. Kids who crossed the border solo, were locked up. Kids were not separated from their families.
To be fair to Heinz: the meme quoted doesn't make that difference, and blames Trump for underage lockups period. As such, pointing out the existence of underage lockups under Obama (whose policies Clinton likely would have generally followed) is a fair point to make.

To be unfair, the numbers don't match up, if I recall ccorrectly.
Some would argue a there is a difference between poorly dealing with an influx of unaccompanied minors and establishing a policy of separating children from their parents to deter asylum seekers.

No administration's hands are clean here, going back decades. Who knows what Central American countries would look like today without the pretty shameful history of American political interference? Trump, and Sessions, though, have turned it up to 11. When a president starts referring to immigrants as 'infesting' America, we are way past BSAB.
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Heinz knows that. He's just bored and trolling for shits and giggles.
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1941 Dr.Seuss anti-Nazi propaganda ad.

America First!
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And I am personally incredulous that anyone, let alone Dave, was ever given the "keys" to a USAF supersonic jet so they could go to any beach anywhere in the US any time they fancied a swim.

They have to keep their hours up, and even at economy cruse in a T38, you can cover 500 miles every hour.

This really isn't as out there as Dave makes it sound.

No, lots of flying hours isn't, but Dave wants to hint that he had a little mini-vacation at some famous beach every time he took the plane out. I've only known two Canadian air force pilots, but fwiw, when they took a jet out to keep their hours up, they weren't off duty and hanging out at famous resorts, they were scheduled back at their home base to do their jobs, not to mention spend time with their families.
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"Lol at Dave, who has never been to a beach nor the mouth of a river nor really anywhere that sediments are being built up year by year or day by day or season by season or flood by flood and so on"

Yeah ... waiting on you to show me a beach or a river delta that if you squint and hold your nose at midnight with a new moon, you could maybe somehow extrapolate those processes over millions of years to form a continent-sized, super flat, super thin sandstone like the one in N. America which contains the Tapeats Sandstone.

L. O. EFFING.  L.

Maybe you should visit more beaches. Or go look at the aerial views off the coasts of your own country and others. Seriously Dave, no one can understand why you can't extrapolate those processes over many millennia. Because it is that evident, that logical, that obvious in such places. Or the processes caused by wind deposition - something you could also see at the right beach, among the dunes. Or out on mud flats, which build up year after year, tide after tide.
"Visit more beaches."  Lol.  I've visited plenty.  I had the keys to a supersonic AF jet for almost 10 years, remember?  I could fly anywhere I wanted for free.  And did quite often.  Been to all the major US beaches and plenty of other places.  Got a kick ass space shuttle tour one time. 

Anyway, guess what I find at beaches? 

LOOSE SAND

And there's no way anyone with a brain could possibly extrapolate the process we see operating at a beach over millions of years to imagine a continent sized, incredibly flat, super duper thin sandstone layer.

You'd have to have a frontal lobotomy to think that could happen.

Which is exactly why I say you guys have frontal lobotomies.

Interesting. The last time I talked to you about beaches you claimed you only were at beaches with your kids and had no time to observe anything because you were watching your kids.

Now you were an international jet-setter who's been to 'all the major beaches', which has to be one of the dumbest things I've eve heard, since 'major beaches' only suggests managed beaches in front of big hotels, many of which dredge, import sand, and are generally more man made than natural.

So outside of a bit of absolutely pointless dumb bragging about being a pilot, you've got nothing.
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So let me repeat my question Dave, as you seem to have misunderstood it:

So what data do you think are consistent with the first and NOT with the second?

And no, the mythical North American continent-sized "pancake-thin" "Tapeats sandstone" is NOT an answer.  It's a LIE.
No it's not.  It's right there.  In ground.

Go back to zombie TR and read the multiple posts where you were shown that the sandstone layers you talk about are not unifom in thickness, definitely not 'pancake thin', not continent wide, and not a complete surface at all. How do we know? Geologists have measured and mapped extensively. They would not miss the kind of astonishing phenomenon you think is lying beneath the earth.
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"Lol at Dave, who has never been to a beach nor the mouth of a river nor really anywhere that sediments are being built up year by year or day by day or season by season or flood by flood and so on"

Yeah ... waiting on you to show me a beach or a river delta that if you squint and hold your nose at midnight with a new moon, you could maybe somehow extrapolate those processes over millions of years to form a continent-sized, super flat, super thin sandstone like the one in N. America which contains the Tapeats Sandstone.

L. O. EFFING.  L.

Maybe you should visit more beaches. Or go look at the aerial views off the coasts of your own country and others. Seriously Dave, no one can understand why you can't extrapolate those processes over many millennia. Because it is that evident, that logical, that obvious in such places. Or the processes caused by wind deposition - something you could also see at the right beach, among the dunes. Or out on mud flats, which build up year after year, tide after tide.
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Remember all those times Hawkins has told us it's just the *Life* Sciences he has contempt for?

He can't even when it comes to geology - a very hard science. :hehe:

It's weird he comes back again and again to the same set of PRATTS, as if he'll get different responses. At best he might be shown different illustrative photos, albeit some of them very pretty. But rocks remain rocks and steadfastly tell the same stories to anyone with eyes to see. That story does not include a recent devastating great flood subplot, and the planet stays old and much more interesting than Dave's blinders allow.

I knew a young person once who was unhappily developing schizophrenia. Out of psych for a weekend, her bf brought her for a visit, and we were looking at some old graphic novels together. One small and rather insignificant panel illustrated an underwater environment, a close-up, just a bit of dark green seaweed swaying sideways in purplish water on brown sand. She called it scary, and when I asked why, she pointed out the monstrous looking insect hidden in the tangled weeds. Of course it wasn't there, it was pareidolia. The shape she described was there.

Dave seems to be plagued with the opposite of that affect - he can't see things that really are there, even when the shape of them is very clea and three dimensional.
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Lol at Dave, who has never been to a beach nor the mouth of a river nor really anywhere that sediments are being built up year by year or day by day or season by season or flood by flood and so on.

Dave, this is so dumb of you. All your 'proofs' are made of straw, and have been debunked and refutes endlessly, and everyone itt knows it. If you want the arguments against, go read the zombie TR archives. All your old threads are still there and searchable.

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Told you to take a closer look at that map, Dave.
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Dave, think about the people Manafort has close connections with, and maybe consider why bail conditions may appear very high.

(Betting Dave isn't really aware of Manafort's resume.)
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Also figure out what you want - forests or grasslands?
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Maybe you ought to get yourself a closer view of some of those areas, Dave.
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Dave, do you think the defendant should be allowed to contact potential witnesses for the prosecution? Can you think why that might be a bad idea?

Have you heard of Al Capone?
I'd be careful here; there isn't anything even close to a general rule precluding pretrial contact with witnesses.

It can certainly be a precondition for bail. In Manfort's case, prosecutors would be idiots if they hadn't made it a precondition.
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Dave has yet another FGM moment.
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To be honest, I'd prefer him to be trying to justify the havoc being wreaked on asylum seeking families in his Heads Rolling thread. He seems pretty committed to silence there.
Probably a wise choice, in light of the spectacular cluelessness revealed in his just now discovering the whole concept of bail and pre-trial incarceration.

Check out the KrangTNelson tweet posted in, iirc, Comic Relief this morning.
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To be honest, I'd prefer him to be trying to justify the havoc being wreaked on asylum seeking families in his Heads Rolling thread. He seems pretty committed to silence there.
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I think you should do some more historic reading about West Texas and the Llano before you get overly invested and can't back down, Dave.


Otherwise we're in for a tedious reprise of the same ol' same ol' Dave makes firm statement, is contradicted immediately by recorded facts.
Oh Borealis, you know Bluffy can't back down. Especially on something as important as SAVING THE WORLD.

True. But he can, if he notices in time, commit to Radio Silence and Never Mention It Again.
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Well we will just have to leave it at that. People can just tell. It is a matter of faith.
No, as has been explained, it's a matter of paying attention to the details and the context. No hard and fast rules. And one would have to have some concept of the modern world, though it would be possible to use antiquities as examples and look at what the average person from that time was knowledgeable. Obviously, if one were to show something made out of plastic, say a large sheet of plexiglass, to someone from even 1000 years ago, they'd be utterly mystified. But I'd expect someone with some education and smarts would realize it was a human artifact and know it's purpose, even if they were unable to know anything about it's origins.

Of course, if one takes only most cursory look at something, with no attempt to discover anything about it, they aren't going to end up knowing anything about it and would likely accept it's something the gods made. There have always been the ignorant and uninformed.

You for instance.

They'd be impressed, idk if they'd be mystified. They knew glass and glazed ceramics. They understood resin and oil based varnishes. They would assume some new material, probably related to glass or varnish, and would be very interested in discovering the method for making this interesting unbreakable clear stuff.

Probably : What have those clever Arabs come up with now!?"
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Dave seems to have forgotten that his point was that the Sahara Desert is man-made.
You know, dave... the term "anthropocene" is not new to the rest of us.

It's amazing. I think he's skimming and just posting a para. whenever he sees a couple words he thinks are on point, never noticing that he's irrevocably headed off a cliff.
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Ruddiman is even discussed on the Wikipedia 'Sahara' page.

But Dave appears to have Hawkins-read a bit about Ruddiman's works and as so often, has gotten hold of the tail of the dog, having no clue of the size and toothiness of the other end of the beast.
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IIRC, "head rolling" means "going to jail".

So there's Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort.
Yeah.

BEFORE his trial.

What is this? The Soviet Union?
Is this the first time you've heard of pretrial detention?

It's always kinda amazing what's new info to Dave.

It is. As if he read a traveller's guide to the planet with a 'How to Blend In' section which he skim-read. The completely blank spots in his common knowledge are downright jarring sometimes.
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I think you should do some more historic reading about West Texas and the Llano before you get overly invested and can't back down, Dave.


Otherwise we're in for a tedious reprise of the same ol' same ol' Dave makes firm statement, is contradicted immediately by recorded facts.