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How climate skeptics are trying to influence 200,000 science teachers
I was vacillating between posting this in "Science" or "Politics", but then remembered we have this special place for exactly this kind of thing.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2017/0330/How-climate-skeptics-are-trying-to-influence-200-000-science-teachers

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The Heartland Institute, a Chicago-based think tank promoting public policy based on individual liberty, limited government, and free markets, has mailed 25,000 copies of its book "Why Scientists Disagree About Global Warming" and an accompanying explanatory DVD to science teachers across the United States. It plans to continue the campaign until all 200,000 K-12 science teachers in the country have a copy.

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One teacher who won't be using the book is Lori Baker, a sixth-grade science teacher from Indiana, who described the contents of the package as follows: "I read quite a bit of the book, actually, and it was extremely frustrating. It's an attempt to sound science literate, but there's very little actual data," she told Frontline.

Specifically, she cited the first paragraph of the forward, which called Obama's description of the threat of climate change as "laughable" in comparison to the terrorist activities of the Islamic State militant group.

"That as a foreword to something claiming to be scientific is pretty shocking," said Ms. Baker.
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And while we're on the subject of batshit-insane / dumb-as-rocks right-wing science denialists:

This Pennsylvania state legislator and gubernatorial hopeful (and gas drilling advocate) has a paradigm-challenging theory of global warming:
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"I haven't been in a science class in a long time, but the earth moves closer to the sun every year-you know the rotation of the earth," Wagner said. "We're moving closer to the sun."

He added, "We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off? Things are changing, but I think we are, as a society, doing the best we can."
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"We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off? Things are changing, but I think we are, as a society, doing the best we can."
Lol, that would still count as AGW
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Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Actually, it would be TRUE AGW.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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And while we're on the subject of batshit-insane / dumb-as-rocks right-wing science denialists:

This Pennsylvania state legislator and gubernatorial hopeful (and gas drilling advocate) has a paradigm-challenging theory of global warming:
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"I haven't been in a science class in a long time, but the earth moves closer to the sun every year-you know the rotation of the earth," Wagner said. "We're moving closer to the sun."

He added, "We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off? Things are changing, but I think we are, as a society, doing the best we can."
It's rather sobering to think this fellow is allowed to cross the street without an adult.
Are we there yet?

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A serious fuckhead.  Jesus christ
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Put all AGW sceptics in the path of a class 5 cyclone, and let them deny that!  :p

Cruel but fair, IMHO.  :cheer:
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Polar bear spotted in Scotland

Take that deniers, it has begun.  The lack of ice is driving wildlife south, and you are doomed. 
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Nah, it is one of them white teddy-bears.

But faux news stories are acceptable on April 1.
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Cows are the only hope for stopping global warming.

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You are a fuckwit.
Truth is out of style

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"Methane"

Lol

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You're still a fuckwit.
Truth is out of style

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Methane is a lie. Fake news.
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Goats produce less methane relative to cows.

David, however, is still a fuckwit.
It's what plants crave.

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You are a fuckwit.
Nah.  Just a thread shitting troll.
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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You are a fuckwit.
Nah.  Just a thread shitting troll.

Those two options aren't mutually exclusive. Just sayin.
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You are a fuckwit.
Nah.  Just a thread shitting troll.

Those two options aren't mutually exclusive. Just sayin.
So many options in "asshole à la carte".
I just wish there was some spirit left in him.  He's just dragging out the end, passive aggressively C&P stuff from websights who's ethics he finds despicable. 
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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Cows are the only hope for stopping global warming.
It's April 2nd, Dave.

ETA oh wait you posted that yesterday lol
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Cows are the only hope for stopping global warming.
It's April 2nd, Dave.
He wrote that on April first.
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"Methane"

Lol
It's kind of amazing to me how much of a tell "Lol" has become for Dave. It pretty much directly translates to "I'm not informed enough to make an actual response, but I desperately want to seem like I'm running circles around you."

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"Methane"

Lol
It's kind of amazing to me how much of a tell "Lol" has become for Dave. It pretty much directly translates to "I'm not informed enough to make an actual response, but I desperately want to seem like I'm running circles around you."
:sadyes:  exactly.
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Lol

These people are so propagandized that they can't even figure out the meaning of "Lol"

Lol

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"Methane"

Lol
It's kind of amazing to me how much of a tell "Lol" has become for Dave. It pretty much directly translates to "I'm not informed enough to make an actual response, but I desperately want to seem like I'm running circles around you."
:sadyes:  exactly.
Second those. It is somewhat on the same principle as when Dave uses really abusive words when referring to a post. A sure sign that there was a sane, thoughtful, kind, knowledgable entry.

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Lol

These people are so propagandized that they can't even figure out the meaning of "Lol"

Lol
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Lol

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One day you may figure out the true meaning ...

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Don't hold back dave. Tell us all about it.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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One day you may figure out the true meaning ...
And you wonder why people say that you are an idiot.
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No I don't wonder that.  I already know.

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It's their way of gnashing their teeth at your relentless speaking of truth to power, amirite?
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People say that I am an idiot because they don't bother to try understand what I'm saying and question their own beliefs.

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People say that I am an idiot because they don't bother to try understand what I'm saying and question their own beliefs.
But you say such idiotic things, and ignore evidence contrary to your beliefs, and almost always ignore all requests for detailed elucidation of the idiotic statement in question. If you aren't prepared to offer backup for a prima facie outlandish display of idiocy, then you have to be prepared to be considered an idiot.
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People say that I am an idiot because they don't bother to try understand what I'm saying and question their own beliefs.
Consider the possibility you might be wrong about that.
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People say that I am an idiot because they don't bother to try understand what I'm saying and question their own beliefs.
That's not why I say you are an idiot
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People say that I am an idiot because they don't bother to try understand what I'm saying and question their own beliefs.
That's not why I say you are an idiot
I also do not say Dave is an idiot for this reason.

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We really do need to get rid of scientists and science, for the dumbasses will inherit the Earth. Bow to the inevitable.
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