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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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omg the little goat comforting the  weeping other little goat. :magical:

Why put the bunnies with the goats?  Because that's  closer to how they are in nature.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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And then of course there's the perfect milk ... fatty acid is balanced perfectly, not way out of whack like store milk ...
  ::)

First, what are your criteria for "perfectly balanced fatty acid"?
Second, what is your method for judging a particular milk sample with respect to those criteria?

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^^^^^  Dave?
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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 :smith: Vox, I'm sure he's getting his milk tested at the local ag department these days,  eh Davey?
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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And then of course there's the perfect milk ... fatty acid is balanced perfectly, not way out of whack like store milk ...
  ::)

First, what are your criteria for "perfectly balanced fatty acid"?
Second, what is your method for judging a particular milk sample with respect to those criteria?

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^^^^^  Dave?
Careful, dave may put you on ignore if you keep asking him to address raised points. Speaking of:

Dave,
Since dave has stated he's intentionally ignoring me rather than answering questions, I'll start using spoiler tags for everyone else's benefit.

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Dave thinks trump going golfing every weekend at the cost of millions to US tax payers is brilliant 8d chess because during one of those golf outings he met with Xi Jinping. But:

1. Xi Jinping hates golf. Meeting at a golf course doesn't seem to have much utility.
2. Xi Jinping seems to be a communism true believer, apparently living out that ideology through his education and earlier governorship. Grandiose expressions of inequality are unlikely to be particularly convincing to him.
3. Xi Jinping's arguably best known pushes have been against corruption and use of state power for personal enrichment. Using his state visit and Trump's position for trump's own financial enrichment is unlikely to be impressive to him.

But let's set aside all that. All of the golf trips I proposed relocating to Camp David could be the non head of state meeting ones.

Again, Xi Jinping would likely not be swayed by trumps grandstanding for the above reasons, and most of trumps vacations to mar-a-lago didn't include meetings with heads of states. Is Trump golfing, while not meeting any heads of states, a better use of money than having a Chemical Safety Board to investigate major chemical incidents?



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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Dave, what's your perspective of DaveGoat's posts?  You seem to think that expressing opinions that differ from your own are manipulative or bullying, so how are you struck by this creative approach toward evoking empathy?
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Crazy Russian Hacker: DIY Rocket Stove Out of Cans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFY00W06v8
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He still hasn't answered my query about how his goats are doing and when they are due....

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He still hasn't answered my query about how his goats are doing and when they are due....
Well

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The gestation period for goats is generally from 148 to 152 days with an average of 150 days. The gestation calculator uses 150 days from breeding date.
When did he send them for freshening? December?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He still hasn't answered my query about how his goats are doing and when they are due....

How are Polly and Betsy doing, Dave?  They must be due around now, yes?
They are doing great.  Due about the end of May I'm guessing.  I should have bred them sooner but you know ... those "round tuits" and all.  I was very apprehensive about becoming a dairy farmer about this time last year (I got them on April 15, 2016) but I'm so glad I took the plunge.  It's been great from so many angles ... perfect milk ... a chance to practice everything I've been taught in Regenerative Ag ... daily hilarity ... something fun to do with my daughter ... pasture improvement ... conversation piece with neighbors and fellow church members ... even some bonding with my kids and ex-wife!  I have more confidence than ever now to go ahead and get a dairy cow if I can just work out the breeding part ... if I can pull that off, my annual food calorie production will hit something like 2 million and I will feel like I have finally arrived at being a Real Regen Producer ... not just an activist.

Inb4
Pingu is a lying manipulative bitch who is constantly bragging about how smart she is
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He still hasn't answered my query about how his goats are doing and when they are due....

How are Polly and Betsy doing, Dave?  They must be due around now, yes?
They are doing great.  Due about the end of May I'm guessing.  I should have bred them sooner but you know ... those "round tuits" and all.  I was very apprehensive about becoming a dairy farmer about this time last year (I got them on April 15, 2016) but I'm so glad I took the plunge.  It's been great from so many angles ... perfect milk ... a chance to practice everything I've been taught in Regenerative Ag ... daily hilarity ... something fun to do with my daughter ... pasture improvement ... conversation piece with neighbors and fellow church members ... even some bonding with my kids and ex-wife!  I have more confidence than ever now to go ahead and get a dairy cow if I can just work out the breeding part ... if I can pull that off, my annual food calorie production will hit something like 2 million and I will feel like I have finally arrived at being a Real Regen Producer ... not just an activist.

Inb4
Pingu is a lying manipulative bitch who is constantly bragging about how smart she is
 :v:

Thanks tsg.  I had looked, but still hadn't found the response.  Glad to have seen it now.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Another abandoned thread.

Throw it on the pile with the rest. :yes:
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
Reply #20911
Goats dead yet Dave?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
Reply #20912
Are we there yet?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Kill any sheep yet?
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Are we there yet?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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The main ongoing expense in the hair sheep business is land lease. The Hoppings reported lamb sales this past Feb at $150 per head wholesale at the sale barn ... no marketing effort at all which is a big deal ... these were lambs that were born in April of 2016.  They also sell quite a few breeding ewe lambs each year for about $230 each last I checked. They wean an average of 1.5 lambs per ewe each year so I think their revenue per ewe is north of $250. Land leases are typically $20 per acre so the $200 net per ewe is fairly conservative I think.
This sounds like a detour from the subdivision idea. Is it?
You really do not read my posts do you?   Setting up regenerative agriculture on the land is the first step for me toward starting a "sustainable subdivision."
so, these subdivisions will include sheep? Every one acre gets its own hair sheep?
Lol

You get kudos for trying to keep up. Its hard with all the spam.

Step 1:  Set up a regenerative agriculture system with animals. My first choice would be sheep to start off with.  

Step 2: If it works well and is profitable for myself and for the investors then we start having serious conversations about housing, infrastructure, and common areas.
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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Pulling this forward?
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He's gone awfully quiet about the goatmobile.

 :ohdear:

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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  • Last Edit: April 25, 2017, 11:49:48 AM by fredbear
"...without considering any evidence at all - that my views are more likely - on average - to be correct.  Because the mainstream is almost always wrong" - Dave Hawkins

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He's gone awfully quiet about the goatmobile.

 :ohdear:
The goats went psycho and escaped and went terrorizing all the neighbors ... so we put them down.

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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That is really not that funny, Dave. Why do you have this pathological need to be such an asshole?

Why are you so committed to avoiding honest dialog?
"...without considering any evidence at all - that my views are more likely - on average - to be correct.  Because the mainstream is almost always wrong" - Dave Hawkins

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
Reply #20921
That is really not that funny, Dave. Why do you have this pathological need to be such an asshole?

Why are you so committed to avoiding honest dialog?
I chuckled.
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if you give it away you'll have so many
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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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He's gone awfully quiet about the goatmobile.

 :ohdear:
The goats went psycho and escaped and went terrorizing all the neighbors ... so we put them down.

How about the kids?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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The main ongoing expense in the hair sheep business is land lease. The Hoppings reported lamb sales this past Feb at $150 per head wholesale at the sale barn ... no marketing effort at all which is a big deal ... these were lambs that were born in April of 2016.  They also sell quite a few breeding ewe lambs each year for about $230 each last I checked. They wean an average of 1.5 lambs per ewe each year so I think their revenue per ewe is north of $250. Land leases are typically $20 per acre so the $200 net per ewe is fairly conservative I think.
This sounds like a detour from the subdivision idea. Is it?
You really do not read my posts do you?  Setting up regenerative agriculture on the land is the first step for me toward starting a "sustainable subdivision."
so, these subdivisions will include sheep? Every one acre gets its own hair sheep?
Lol

You get kudos for trying to keep up. Its hard with all the spam.

Step 1:  Set up a regenerative agriculture system with animals. My first choice would be sheep to start off with. 

Step 2: If it works well and is profitable for myself and for the investors then we start having serious conversations about housing, infrastructure, and common areas.
Oh, those sheep, never mind, that was just a hair-brained idea.
Are we there yet?

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Re: Economics of "Saving Agriculture" (Thereby Saving the World)
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That is really not that funny, Dave. Why do you have this pathological need to be such an asshole?
Because he's so committed to avoiding honest dialog.

Why are you so committed to avoiding honest dialog?
Because he has this pathological need to be such an asshole.
Are we there yet?