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CalExit 2019!
Since we now have a manifesto, we deserve our own thread.

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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #2
The oregon exit guys withdrew the initiative after the deadline so no one else could put one on the ballot because of death threats.

good luck guys
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That was a dick move, preventing another group from putting up an initiative.

This article by Robert Reich  isn't about CalExit, but it is a pretty good description of why California would like for Trump to keep his tiny vulgar fingers to himself.

http://www.newsweek.com/robert-reich-california-trumpland-nemesis-524127

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This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america

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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #5
God that author is insufferable

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Yeah, he is.  And extremely optimistic.

Some of the things he proposes are already happening, though.  It will be interesting to see how easy or attractive the Republican administration makes it to do more.

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Re: CalExit 2019!
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This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america

There's no escape clause to the constitution. Which suits me just fine. I can't imagine a red state fly-over nation unfettered from the relative sanity of the coasts.  :911:

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I can't imagine a red state fly-over nation unfettered from the relative sanity of the coasts.
You don't have to imagine it. Just take a look at the current adminstration and house of reps.
Truth is out of style

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I can't imagine a red state fly-over nation unfettered from the relative sanity of the coasts.
You don't have to imagine it. Just take a look at the current adminstration and house of reps.

I politely decline your request.

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Reply #10
Yeah, he is.  And extremely optimistic.

Some of the things he proposes are already happening, though.  It will be interesting to see how easy or attractive the Republican administration makes it to do more.
Nah. Cutting military spending will never happen while the us remains an empire.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #11
I blame much of the current troubles on the leniency of the blue states. They can't run and hide from the shit storm they had a hand in making. The South once rose in armed rebellion, you might recall. It would have been entirely justifiable to hang each and every one of their traitorous governors, senators, judges and mayors from the nearest tree, make an example of such abhorrent behavior. Burn their cities, burden the previous slave holders with fair and due reparations. But no. We can't have justice. Let's welcome the traitors back into the fold with open arms. Let's turn a blind eye to their armed rebellion. Let's let their backwards ideologies influence policy for the next couple of hundred years. You didn't distribute justice when you had a chance. This is what you get.

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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #12
And now Spode's avatar begins to make sense.

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could just glass the entire planet and be done with it
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Re: CalExit 2019!
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I blame much of the current troubles on the leniency of the blue states. They can't run and hide from the shit storm they had a hand in making. The South once rose in armed rebellion, you might recall. It would have been entirely justifiable to hang each and every one of their traitorous governors, senators, judges and mayors from the nearest tree, make an example of such abhorrent behavior. Burn their cities, burden the previous slave holders with fair and due reparations. But no. We can't have justice. Let's welcome the traitors back into the fold with open arms. Let's turn a blind eye to their armed rebellion. Let's let their backwards ideologies influence policy for the next couple of hundred years. You didn't distribute justice when you had a chance. This is what you get.

could just glass the entire planet and be done with it

so much for the tolerant left!

Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #15
my solution doesn't value nazi leftists over slave state rednecks :colbert:
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Reply #16
my solution doesn't value nazi leftists over slave state rednecks :colbert:
And that's what's wrong with it.  :p
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Reply #17
my solution doesn't value nazi leftists over slave state rednecks :colbert:

Your solution also kills all the innocent animals and bugs and plants and critters. :sadcheer:

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Reply #18
Maybe they aren't so innocent.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #19
Maybe they aren't so innocent.

Geese are assholes. :hmm:

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Reply #20
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Reply #21
my solution doesn't value nazi leftists over slave state rednecks :colbert:

Your solution also kills all the innocent animals and bugs and plants and critters. :sadcheer:
Fuck it. They're doomed anyway.
Truth is out of style

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Reply #22
This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
Given, as he acknowledges, Trump voters already live in their own world of alternative facts, I can't see how making things worse for them would somehow make them see the error of their ways. It would just make them double down, like everything does. Anything bad is always somehow the fault of the liberals. How would any of this change that?

Nazi Germany is the popular metaphor, but I'm starting to think Trump's America may actually be more like North Korea. Red America will remain always and forever the greatest nation on the planet, even as they starve to death, praise Dear Leader!

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This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
Given, as he acknowledges, Trump voters already live in their own world of alternative facts, I can't see how making things worse for them would somehow make them see the error of their ways. It would just make them double down, like everything does. Anything bad is always somehow the fault of the liberals. How would any of this change that?

Nazi Germany is the popular metaphor, but I'm starting to think Trump's America may actually be more like North Korea. Red America will remain always and forever the greatest nation on the planet, even as they starve to death, praise Dear Leader!

Yeah I think seeing the error of their ways part is exceptionally rose-tinted even for a liberal.

But, I think blue states playing states rights for all it's worth can help blue states preserve some of what the rest of the country is going to lose.


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This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
Given, as he acknowledges, Trump voters already live in their own world of alternative facts, I can't see how making things worse for them would somehow make them see the error of their ways. It would just make them double down, like everything does. Anything bad is always somehow the fault of the liberals. How would any of this change that?

Nazi Germany is the popular metaphor, but I'm starting to think Trump's America may actually be more like North Korea. Red America will remain always and forever the greatest nation on the planet, even as they starve to death, praise Dear Leader!

Yeah I think seeing the error of their ways part is exceptionally rose-tinted even for a liberal.

But, I think blue states playing states rights for all it's worth can help blue states preserve some of what the rest of the country is going to lose.


This is why I have always been ok with states rights behavior because you get 50 places where a group can get it right as opposed to ending up with a trump.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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This ain't happening.

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Reply #27
This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
Given, as he acknowledges, Trump voters already live in their own world of alternative facts, I can't see how making things worse for them would somehow make them see the error of their ways. It would just make them double down, like everything does. Anything bad is always somehow the fault of the liberals. How would any of this change that?

Nazi Germany is the popular metaphor, but I'm starting to think Trump's America may actually be more like North Korea. Red America will remain always and forever the greatest nation on the planet, even as they starve to death, praise Dear Leader!

Yeah I think seeing the error of their ways part is exceptionally rose-tinted even for a liberal.

But, I think blue states playing states rights for all it's worth can help blue states preserve some of what the rest of the country is going to lose.


This is why I have always been ok with states rights behavior because you get 50 places where a group can get it right as opposed to ending up with a trump.
Or you could end up with 50 Trumps.
Are we there yet?

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Reply #28
This article proposes a sort of virtual exit for all blue states.  It's extremely rose-tinted, but I think parts are already in progress.

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america
Given, as he acknowledges, Trump voters already live in their own world of alternative facts, I can't see how making things worse for them would somehow make them see the error of their ways. It would just make them double down, like everything does. Anything bad is always somehow the fault of the liberals. How would any of this change that?

Nazi Germany is the popular metaphor, but I'm starting to think Trump's America may actually be more like North Korea. Red America will remain always and forever the greatest nation on the planet, even as they starve to death, praise Dear Leader!

Yeah I think seeing the error of their ways part is exceptionally rose-tinted even for a liberal.

But, I think blue states playing states rights for all it's worth can help blue states preserve some of what the rest of the country is going to lose.


This is why I have always been ok with states rights behavior because you get 50 places where a group can get it right as opposed to ending up with a trump.
Or you could end up with 50 Trumps.
You could. True. But it's a lot easier to take direct action locally.
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 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

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Re: CalExit 2019!
Reply #29
I blame much of the current troubles on the leniency of the blue states. They can't run and hide from the shit storm they had a hand in making. The South once rose in armed rebellion, you might recall. It would have been entirely justifiable to hang each and every one of their traitorous governors, senators, judges and mayors from the nearest tree, make an example of such abhorrent behavior. Burn their cities, burden the previous slave holders with fair and due reparations. But no. We can't have justice. Let's welcome the traitors back into the fold with open arms. Let's turn a blind eye to their armed rebellion. Let's let their backwards ideologies influence policy for the next couple of hundred years. You didn't distribute justice when you had a chance. This is what you get.

Saw this and thought of you!


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That's so 1864.

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I blame much of the current troubles on the leniency of the blue states. They can't run and hide from the shit storm they had a hand in making. The South once rose in armed rebellion, you might recall. It would have been entirely justifiable to hang each and every one of their traitorous governors, senators, judges and mayors from the nearest tree, make an example of such abhorrent behavior. Burn their cities, burden the previous slave holders with fair and due reparations. But no. We can't have justice. Let's welcome the traitors back into the fold with open arms. Let's turn a blind eye to their armed rebellion. Let's let their backwards ideologies influence policy for the next couple of hundred years. You didn't distribute justice when you had a chance. This is what you get.
i too would have hung liberally but i am not sure the connection between the north circa 1865-1875 and modern "blue states" is this clear.

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