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Dave's challenge, address the 100 evidences of a young earth.
Dave has called out the reality based community for, as quoted below, "you conveniently ignore that list of 100 evidences of a young earth."  I encourage him to address the information Jon linked to below, if he can.

It is not possible to falsify Creationist propositions.
Though, of course, many consilient methods putting the age of the earth much much much older than the YEC proposition that the universe came into existence < 10000 years ago falsifies that proposition. So the lack of falsifiability of that (and other YEC propositions) isn't so much inherent in the propositions themselves, but in the fact that creationists refuse to accept the results of the tests - coming up with one special pleading after another, and when they all get laughed out of court, simply resorting to "someone must be lying".

Exactly. Or like Todd Wood - sure it looks like things evolved, but Genesis so there must be another explanation, and I'm going to try to find out what it is.  And Todd is honest about that.

Ham just shoves the data under the rug and covers it up with lies and slander.
No he doesn't.  People like YOU do.  For example, you conveniently ignore that list of 100 evidences of a young earth.
No, we evaluate it and thoroughly debunk it and you ignore the fatal flaws in all those "evidences". E.g. each of them is covered at 101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe and An Index to Creationist Claims.

Of course you can't address those issues; the few times you've tried you've badgered early.  And, no, they are not ipso facto biased or invalid.
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"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

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Mods: could you add "badger Gif collection thread" to title please!

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Hey look what I found:

http://talkrational.org/archive/showthread.php?t=28293

Guess what happened at the end of the thread...
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Whatever happened to Steviepinhead?
"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

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Whatever happened to Steviepinhead?
Having too much fun mountain climbing with beautiful athletic women afaik.

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Whatever happened to Steviepinhead?
Having too much fun mountain climbing with beautiful athletic women afaik.
Possibly, and that could never be enough. I can only hope she loves him as much as he deserves.

Really, one of the best people I've ever had the pleasure to know.

And he had to put up with me for over two years.
That alone qualifies him for sainthood.
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I was hoping you'd still be in touch. If so I'd have said to poke him with a stick and tell him we're thinking of him and wishing him well.
Why do I bother?

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I was hoping you'd still be in touch. If so I'd have said to poke him with a stick and tell him we're thinking of him and wishing him well.
I sent him a christmas card. Have to stop by some day I'm up that way and see what he's up to, along with Eric, I should do so before I go in for the next knee or it'll be months down the line.
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Eric?
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Eric?
Eric Varnes, he used to post but got burnt out. Not sure if it was the original TR or before that.
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Hey, Bluffy!!

How about addressing those 101 evidences presented by Don Batten?

Actually, there's only 100 left, as we beat the crap out of #96.

Or is this another example of Second Law?
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Hey, Bluffy!!

How about addressing those 101 evidences presented by Don Batten?

Actually, there's only 100 left, as we beat the crap out of #96.

Or is this another example of Second Law?

Bluffy?

Go ahead, prove Second Law is invalid.
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One Hundred Challenges on the wall, one hundred challenges, take one down, smack it around, 99 challenges on the wall.

Hey, Bluffy, got any evidence?
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Eric?
Eric Varnes, he used to post but got burnt out. Not sure if it was the original TR or before that.
If you hear from eric, please let me know. He posted at MR for quite a while, then totally vanished.

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Eric?
Eric Varnes, he used to post but got burnt out. Not sure if it was the original TR or before that.
If you hear from eric, please let me know. He posted at MR for quite a while, then totally vanished.
I resolve to do so in the next week. I shall descend upon them like ... ... well, like something epic. I have Friday, Saturday and Sunday free.
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BTW, Bluffy, got any evidence you'd like to present?
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BTW, Bluffy, got any evidence you'd like to present?
Hey, Bluffy, got anything?
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"reality-based community"

Lol

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BTW, Bluffy, got any evidence you'd like to present?
Hey, Bluffy, got anything?
"reality-based community"

Lol


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"reality-based community"
Lol
Hawkins feels yugely validated by the emergence of "alternative facts" as a concept endorsed with a straight face at the highest levels of government.
"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

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Well he already lives in an alternative reality.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Hey, Bluffy, are you even going to try to fake attempting to address these "challenges" to mainstream science?
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Hey, Bluffy, are you even going to try to fake attempting to address these "challenges" to mainstream science?
Hey, Bluffy, it's been another 3 days and no response from you.

Are you hiding or just evading?

Har de har har har.

What a joke you are.

What a bluffoon you are.
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He can't even meet the challenges about what happened yesterday, RAFH.

It's over.

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Dave is finding rock bottom :gonk: ,this is a little too sad for me.
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Hey Bluffy!!

You ever going to address all those "evidences for YEC?
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I don't want this to slide off the page, Dave!
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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He'll never touch this with a barge pole. He's been thoroughly reamed about them too many times, and these days is too scared to go anywhere near them.
Truth is out of style

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But he'll still crow about how he's concerned with truth, when every objective observer will see that is not the case.

If Dave had actual evidential arguments for any of his numerology or pseudoscience that were based in reality, and not a buffet of logical fallacies, they would cease to have those names and move into the mainstream.

Dave's all claim and belief. He skips over the objective evidence part, and when challenged, begins his rapid franoogling procedure looking for absolutely anything that might tangentially support his point, which it inevitably doesn't. And he doesn't care it doesn't because of his combination of shitty reading skills and abysmal reasoning.

Like I said, all claim and belief.  All hat and no beef.  All shitty hands and holy teeth.

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Bluffy, time keeps slipping, slipping, slipping away.

Are you ever going to address these issue?

If you are, then do so.
If you aren't, then just say so.
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Give the man a break. He's got a world to save, and Trump's just making it more and more difficult

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OK which one of those 101 Evidences do you want me to discuss?

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Pick one.
Why do I bother?

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OK which one of those 101 Evidences do you want me to discuss?
the request has been for you to pick the next most unassailable one as #96 has been pretty throughly throunced.

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"throunced"

New word.

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Eventually, you'll get to "intellectual honesty".
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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"throunced"

New word.
made by typing on a phone while riding a train. Just a quick note, I don't get on you when you make a typo.

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"throunced"

New word.
made by typing on a phone while riding a train. Just a quick note, I don't get on you when you make a typo.
Yeah, but he has nothing more to say, unlike you.
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Galloping badgers, Batman!
Poor Dave.  Remember when you accused others of running from these?
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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BTT:  Dave, why are you running from this?
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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:stopper:  Just in case "Truth Matters", but it's slipped off of Dave's radar.
Sunday BTT.
Guys.  TRUTH MATTERS.   Absolute.  Fucking.  Truth.    Not 90% truth and 10% lie.  Not 95 and 15.  Not 99 and 1.  100% truth. Needs to be our goal.   Without that as our goal, society will crumble.

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Hey, Bluffy!!!

This thread is still here, waiting for you to justify even just one of the remaining claims.
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And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ...
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And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ... And another week goes by ...

Amazingly enough another week has passed without Bluffy answering the call.
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