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  • meepmeep
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #200
Like seriously even without my dad's lecturing and ranting, I learned how awful these assholes are myself by, you know, directly fucking dealing with them. How does a grown ass woman not understand what was perfectly clear to me when I was 14?

Christ how do you do that to someone you're married to unless your secret plan is to get rid of them?

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Reply #201

  • borealis
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #202
Like seriously even without my dad's lecturing and ranting, I learned how awful these assholes are myself by, you know, directly fucking dealing with them. How does a grown ass woman not understand what was perfectly clear to me when I was 14?

Christ how do you do that to someone you're married to unless your secret plan is to get rid of them?
Smug sense of entitlement with a healthy dollop of naïve stupid would be my guess. She knows she'll never be thrown out of the US, and assumed that entitlement for her family, because they are all 'good people'.

You have to figure, to begin with, that there is something fatally flawed in your understanding of how the world works and your ability to assess people if you admire someone like Trump. He's been a highly visible public figure for decades, he's always looked, sounded, and acted like a gigantic uncaring selfish braggart. How do you not back away from that without feeling repulsed?

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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #203
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/trump-immigration-advisers-hate-groups/index.html

Two high level immigration advisors in the administration have links to immigration think tanks identified as hate groups.

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #204
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • ravenscape
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #205
I don't know what you're trying to say.

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Reply #206
bye bye america
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • meepmeep
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #207
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-moving-quickly-to-build-up-nationwide-deportation-force/2017/04/12/7a7f59c2-1f87-11e7-be2a-3a1fb24d4671_story.html

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An internal Department of Homeland Security assessment obtained by The Washington Post shows the agency has already found 33,000 more detention beds to house undocumented immigrants, opened discussions with dozens of local police forces that could be empowered with enforcement authority and identified where construction of Trump's border wall could begin.

The agency also is considering ways to speed up the hiring of hundreds of new Customs and Border Patrol officers, including ending polygraph and physical fitness tests in some cases, according to the documents.

But these plans could be held up by the prohibitive costs outlined in the internal report and resistance in Congress where many lawmakers are already balking at approving billions in spending on the wall and additional border security measures.

Administration officials said the plans are preliminary and have not been reviewed by senior DHS management, but the assessment offers a glimpse of the behind the scenes planning at DHS to carry out the two executive orders Trump signed in January to boost deportations and strengthen border enforcement.

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #208
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article145262514.html?#emlnl=Breaking_Newsletter_M
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On Tuesday, though, Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, asserted that scientific studies showed that pot "is not only psychologically addictive, but can have profound negative impacts on the still-developing minds of teens and people up into their mid-20s."
He promised that the Transportation Security Administration would take "appropriate action" when marijuana is found at baggage screenings, and that its possession and distribution would be "essential elements" in building cases to deport people who were in the country illegally.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article145262514.html?#emlnl=Breaking_Newsletter_M#storylink=cpy

Not racist at all.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

  • meepmeep
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #209
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/supreme-court-naturalization.html

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WASHINGTON -- Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. tried to test the limits of the government's position at a Supreme Court argument on Wednesday by confessing to a criminal offense.

"Some time ago, outside the statute of limitations, I drove 60 miles an hour in a 55-mile-an-hour zone," the chief justice said, adding that he had not been caught.

The form that people seeking American citizenship must complete, he added, asks whether the applicant had ever committed a criminal offense, however minor, even if there was no arrest.

"If I answer that question no, 20 years after I was naturalized as a citizen, you can knock on my door and say, 'Guess what, you're not an American citizen after all'?" Chief Justice Roberts asked.
Continue reading the main story

Robert A. Parker, a Justice Department lawyer, said the offense had to be disclosed. Chief Justice Roberts seemed shocked. "Oh, come on," he said.

The chief justice asked again whether someone's citizenship could turn on such an omission.

Mr. Parker did not back down. "If we can prove that you deliberately lied in answering that question, then yes," he said.

The exchange was among several moments of indignation and incredulity during the argument in Maslenjak v. United States, No. 16-309. Several justices seemed taken aback by Mr. Parker's unyielding position that the government may revoke the citizenship of Americans who made even trivial misstatements in their naturalization proceedings.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy had heard enough.

"Your argument is demeaning the priceless value of citizenship," he told Mr. Parker. "You're arguing for the government of the United States, talking about what citizenship is and ought to mean."

Justice Sonia Sotomayor asked about the failure to disclose an embarrassing childhood nickname. Justice Elena Kagan said she was a "little bit horrified to know that every time I lie about my weight it has those kinds of consequences."

Mr. Parker said the law applied to all false statements, even trivial ones.

Justice Stephen G. Breyer said it was "rather surprising that the government of the United States thinks" that the naturalization laws should be "interpreted in a way that would throw into doubt the citizenship of vast percentages of all naturalized citizens."

Chief Justice Roberts added that the government's position would give prosecutors extraordinary power. "If you take the position that not answering about the speeding ticket or the nickname is enough to subject that person to denaturalization," he said, "the government will have the opportunity to denaturalize anyone they want."

The Trump administration has sought to strip the citizenship of a convicted terrorist, and President Trump has said that loss of citizenship may be a fit punishment for burning the American flag.

Wednesday's case concerned Divna Maslenjak, an ethnic Serb who said she had faced persecution in Bosnia. She was granted refugee status at least partly on that basis in 1999 and became a United States citizen in 2007.

Along the way, she apparently lied about her husband, saying she and her family had also feared retributions because he had avoided conscription by the Bosnian Serb military. In fact, he had served in a Bosnian Serb military unit, one that had been implicated in war crimes.

When this came to light, Ms. Maslenjak was charged with obtaining her citizenship illegally. She sought to argue that her lie was immaterial, but the trial judge told the jury that any lie, significant or not, was enough. Ms. Maslenjak was convicted, her citizenship was ordered revoked, and she and her husband were deported to Serbia.

Christopher Landau, a lawyer for Ms. Maslenjak said that the trial judge had applied the wrong standard and that she was entitled to be tried under the right one.

Much of the argument was concerned with what sort of causal relationship the government had to prove between the lie and the grant of citizenship.

Justice Kagan asked Mr. Parker, the government lawyer, subtle questions to tease out his position. Then Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg offered her own approach.

"This may be a simple-minded question," Justice Ginsburg said, "but how can an immaterial statement procure naturalization?"

"That's such a shorter statement of my question," Justice Kagan said. "It's perfect."


Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #210
Heartening.

  • el jefe
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #211
sounds like a 6-3 against the administration.  maybe better.

I know it's dangerous to guess at how justices will vote based on how they act at oral arguments, because they ask probing questions in all directions and try to keep their poker faces on, but it sounds like roberts and kennedy both had a strong gut reaction against the government's position.

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #212
Doesn't that mean they'd have to strip gorka'a citizenship?

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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
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Kirchner was from 2005 to 2015 director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a group that has advocated for extreme restrictions on immigration.

The ombudsman's office at USCIS provides assistance to immigrants who run into trouble with the agency, such as immigration applications that take too long to process or applications that may have been improperly rejected. The ombudsman also prepares an annual report for Congress in which they can issue audits and policy recommendations without consulting with USCIS in advance.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ex-director-anti-immigration-group-to-be-ombudsman-at-immigration-agency

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #214
Sen. Casey is live-tweeting Trump sending a 5 year old and his mother to their deaths  :smith:  :smith:  :smith:


  • meepmeep
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #215
Bad hombres, drug dealers, etc. maybe that mother and her child should just fix Honduras, why didn't they think of that in the first place

  • meepmeep
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #216
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/11/one-gop-lawmakers-plan-to-save-money-turning-non-english-speaking-kids-over-to-ice/

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Republican Rep. Mike Ritze told CBS affiliate KWTV that he has another proposal in mind: Rounding up the state's 82,000 non-English-speaking students and handing them over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

"Identify them and then turn them over to ICE to see if they truly are citizens -- and do we really have to educate noncitizens?" Ritze asked.

The lawmaker disagrees with the idea that the state should be responsible for educating children who aren't citizens, though a 1982 Supreme Court decision, Plyler v. Doe, actually prohibits states from denying education to undocumented immigrants.

For the love of god, can you stupid motherfuckers stop conflating non-citizen and undocumented even in your fucking news articles?

I was a fucking non-English speaking goddamn non-citizen in Kindergarten. This dumb motherfucker would've wanted little 5 year old meeps rounded up by fucking ICE and not educated because I didn't magically speak English the instant I set foot in the US. These pieces of shit are utterly disgraceful.

  • el jefe
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #217
I could speak English at 5.  I'm sorry, but everyone has to be held to the same standard, regardless of circumstances.

bootstraps and all that

  • MSG
Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #218
https://mic.com/articles/177674/airport-lawyers-justice-department-trump-muslim-ban#.8lqbyZgxi

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Now, those lawyers who fought to protect travelers from detention and deportation are under fire. Baron's organization, the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project (NWIRP), is now embroiled in a battle of its own. The Department of Justice shut down many of their services for four weeks on a surprise technicality, preventing hundreds of immigrants from getting access to lawful representation.

The lawyers at the NWIRP have been working in the Seattle community for over three decades, serving 10,000 immigrants a year. Because it's tough for a nonprofit to promise full service, years-long support up front to the dozens of immigrants they serve each week, a lot of NWIRP's services are "pro se" -- temporary work, often for free, that simply helps immigrants deal with emergencies and the myriad complexities of immigration court.

It's that pro se work that the DOJ is using to shut down services for hundreds of immigrants.

The legislation the DOJ is using to crack down on the NWIRP was initially designed to curb abuses by the ambulance chasers of the immigration world, the so-called "notarios" who find immigration cases, gently imply they're lawyers and then make off with the money. The lawyers providing pro se work with NWIRP are clearly not notarios, and have been working with the local courts to be transparent about their work.

braying among the ruins

  • ToThePoint
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #219
Trump defies the court ordered May 19th deadline to turn over Giuliani travel ban memo:

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The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Saturday [05.20.2017] blasted President Trump for ignoring a court order demanding he release a memo drafted under former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani's guidance that outlined a plan to implement a travel ban without making it seem as if it was directly aimed at Muslims.

A federal judge in Detroit ordered the Trump administration to turn over the memo by May 19, according to reports. The ACLU said Saturday that Trump did not meet the deadline on Friday.

"If, as the administration claims, the Executive Order is not a Muslim Ban, then why is the administration refusing to turn over the Giuliani memo? What is in that document that the government doesn't want the court to see?" Miriam Aukerman, Senior Staff Attorney at the ACLU of Michigan, said in a statement.

read more at TheHill.com
"This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

  • el jefe
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #220
so, at the moment his advisers are trying to get him to intelligently handle russiagate and the special counsel, he stumbles his way into two new legal problems:  failing to cough up the giuliani memo in violation of a court order, and making an arms sale to saudi arabia that was possibly illegal.

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #221
so, at the moment his advisers are trying to get him to intelligently handle russiagate and the special counsel, he stumbles his way into two new legal problems:  failing to cough up the giuliani memo in violation of a court order, and making an arms sale to saudi arabia that was possibly illegal.
Par for the course.... 

  • el jefe
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #222
appeals court shot down muslim ban 2.0

probably headed to supreme court now

https://apnews.com/amp/bf67e290a662452daf85342326604a96
  • Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 01:14:26 PM by el jefe

  • borealis
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Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #223
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A Baltimore defense attorney was caught on tape telling a rape victim that she could be deported under President Donald Trump's immigration policies if she showed up in court to testify against his client, according to court documents filed Wednesday.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lawyer-allegedly-told-rape-victim-trump-laws-would-get-her-n764116

Lovely.

Re: Immigration/border patrol megathread
Reply #224
people need killed for this shit.
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor