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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/23/1637044/-Google-blacklisted-Natural-News-hilarity-from-the-crackpot-ensues

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Natural News, a website run by Mike Adams, the self styled Health Ranger, is a festering cesspool of junk medicine, pseudoscience and conspiracy theories. There isn't one positive thing I can say about the website, but there's very good news - Google blacklisted Natural News. If you use Google (who doesn't?), then perform a search for "Natural News" or the title of any story on that website, the actual website (naturalnews.com) does not appear at all in the search results. The only results that seem to appear are articles about Natural News. And a wonderfully snarky RationalWiki article.

Of course, Mike Adams went nuclear, something he's done in the past with Dr. David Gorski. In response to the Google action, Adams posted an article, "GOOGLE blacklists Natural News... removes 140,000 pages from its index... "memory holes" Natural News investigative articles on vaccines, pharma corruption, fraudulent science and more." Apparently, Adams jumped off the cliff of delusion down into the cave of hilarity. This has apparently unhinged him in ways that we skeptics have never quite been able to do, despite pointing out every dumb thing he's ever written.
While you were getting your PhD in virology, I got my PhD in truth detection. :wave:  Dave Hawkins

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merged.   You beat me by 7 minutes.

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Yeah so what's up with this?  I'm thinking it's not a premeditated thing by Google ... maybe just a bot thing?

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Nope, according to the comments on Orac's blog its because he violated Goggle's t&c's. It might be a bot automatically delisting in response to a complaint, but I suspect that's unlikely.

In other words its not a conspiracy, or if it is, he's the conspirator.
Why do I bother?

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What T&C's specifically?

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What T&C's specifically?
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http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/02/23/google-delists-mike-adams-his-hilarious-tantrum-about-the-conspiracy-behind-it-is-epic-as-is-my-schadenfreude/#comment-457744
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I have it on good authority that Natural News was penalized by Google for a "sneaky mobile redirect" that broke their terms and conditions. This happens to a lot of sites. All Mike Adams has to do is fix it and file a reconsideration request to Google and it is all fixed. I will come back and post a link to a story on this when its posted.

It will be interesting to see if he does that, as it will not play into his conspiracy narrative.
While you were getting your PhD in virology, I got my PhD in truth detection. :wave:  Dave Hawkins

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What T&C's specifically?
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http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/02/23/google-delists-mike-adams-his-hilarious-tantrum-about-the-conspiracy-behind-it-is-epic-as-is-my-schadenfreude/#comment-457744
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I have it on good authority that Natural News was penalized by Google for a "sneaky mobile redirect" that broke their terms and conditions. This happens to a lot of sites. All Mike Adams has to do is fix it and file a reconsideration request to Google and it is all fixed. I will come back and post a link to a story on this when its posted.

It will be interesting to see if he does that, as it will not play into his conspiracy narrative.
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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.

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Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Just remember that as a YEC, Dave's default position is that evidence-based sites must be wrong. I suspect there's a large element of nya nya nya going on with his automatic embrace of anything non-factual.
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Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Just remember that as a YEC, Dave's default position is that evidence-based sites must be wrong. I suspect there's a large element of nya nya nya going on with his automatic embrace of anything non-factual.

Well, that of course. But I've known non-YEC people who were just as deeply wedded to fantasy presented as fact.

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I have a neighbor with a masters degree who thinks he's seen aliens, believes in chemtrails and listens to alex jones and buys herbal supplements from him. Oh yeah, he voted for trump of course. Nice guy otherwise.
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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.

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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.
There you go again. Accusing people of lying without any fucking evidence. And your argument rests on caricatures and willfull misinterpretations borne of your irrational prejudices. When will you ever learn?

FFS, grow up Dave.

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You don't even recognize lying when you see it.  You probably didn't recognize CNN's recent lie with this story ... http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/fbi-refused-white-house-request-to-knock-down-recent-trump-russia-stories/

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Tel you what, dave. You explain to me how CNN lied, and I'll explain to you how Fox News lied. Then we can check our 'lies' and see if they hold, and also which is more dangerous.

Whaddaya say?
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.
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Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason
sweeping completely unsupported assertion.
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and proposes that my uncle was a monkey
Fabrication. Cite any example of someone asserting that your uncle was a monkey. Yes, I understand that you will claim something like "truthful hyperbole", but in fact you are stating something untrue with the intention of misrepresenting.  I.e., you are lying. Right here.
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and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.
The fact that you disagree doesn't mean that it "denies all reason". Except, of course, in the mind of the raging narcissist.
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The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."
I generally rely on common usage and dictionary definitions. No one explicitly defines every word they use in a discussion. 
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I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

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The end.
::)  You'd like that, wouldn't you?
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Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Just remember that as a YEC, Dave's default position is that evidence-based sites must be wrong. I suspect there's a large element of nya nya nya going on with his automatic embrace of anything non-factual.
I'll probably cross-post this, but...

The Shallow State: Forget the conspiracy theories. Something much more dangerous is seeking to gut our government and change the character of our society.

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The shallow state, on the other hand, is unsettling because not only are the signs of it ever more visible but because its influence is clearly growing. It is made scarier still because it not only actively eschews experience, knowledge, relationships, insight, craft, special skills, tradition, and shared values but because it celebrates its ignorance of and disdain for those things. Donald Trump, champion and avatar of the shallow state, has won power because his supporters are threatened by what they don't understand, and what they don't understand is almost everything. Indeed, from evolution to data about our economy to the science of vaccines to the threats we face in the world, they reject vast subjects rooted in fact in order to have reality conform to their worldviews. They don't dig for truth; they skim the media for anything that makes them feel better about themselves. To many of them, knowledge is not a useful tool but a cunning barrier elites have created to keep power from the average man and woman. The same is true for experience, skills, and know-how. These things require time and work and study and often challenge our systems of belief. Truth is hard; shallowness is easy.

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Dave
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Wow... they really have nailed the Hawkins phenomenon.  ^^^^  To a T .
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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.
There you go again. Accusing people of lying without any fucking evidence. And your argument rests on caricatures and willfull misinterpretations borne of your irrational prejudices. When will you ever learn?

FFS, grow up Dave.
I think I've got to stick up for him here. He posted a link to newstarget describing Mike Adam's response as a "rant". I took that to mean he was being critical of the response from Adams. He was then accused of buying into what he just criticized. 

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I think I've got to stick up for him here. He posted a link to newstarget describing Mike Adam's response as a "rant". I took that to mean he was being critical of the response from Adams. He was then accused of buying into what he just criticized. 
Well, fair enough.
Hawkins can speak for himself whether he was being critical of the "rant" from the source he has often represented as reliable (e.g.here) or he's had a change of heart.

Dave?

 
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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.
There you go again. Accusing people of lying without any fucking evidence. And your argument rests on caricatures and willfull misinterpretations borne of your irrational prejudices. When will you ever learn?

FFS, grow up Dave.
I think I've got to stick up for him here. He posted a link to newstarget describing Mike Adam's response as a "rant". I took that to mean he was being critical of the response from Adams. He was then accused of buying into what he just criticized. 
No use trying to convince Voxrat of anything.  He's got his orthodoxy and he's happy.

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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.
There you go again. Accusing people of lying without any fucking evidence. And your argument rests on caricatures and willfull misinterpretations borne of your irrational prejudices. When will you ever learn?

FFS, grow up Dave.
I think I've got to stick up for him here. He posted a link to newstarget describing Mike Adam's response as a "rant". I took that to mean he was being critical of the response from Adams. He was then accused of buying into what he just criticized. 
No use trying to convince Voxrat of anything.  He's got his orthodoxy and he's happy.
Convince [serious] then.
Did you, in fact, refer to  Mike Adams's article (owner of NaturalNews) as "rant" to express your criticism of it, or not?
If so, what IS your criticism? Where do you disagree with him?

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News Target publishes information that cannot be validated and that is anti scientific fact. The information provided should be regarded as speculative opinion or propaganda and cannot be substantiated by fact or evidence. It is among the most untrustworthy sources in the media.
... in other words, ideal fodder for gullible tools like Hawkins.
Someone should try to dissect the psychology of people who go straight for that kind of reality-challenged source, in severe denial of sanity and reason. You can't just say 'they're crazy', because most of them manage to get by every day, get up, look after themselves properly, hold down jobs, etc. But there they are, in the evenings, poring over the modern equivalent of grimoires and alchemists' journals.
Yes someone should try to dissect that psychology ... the psychology that denies all reason and proposes that my uncle was a monkey and that the universe "just happened" with no intelligent input.  The psychology that assumes that Dave "goes for" sites like that and never bothers to define what they mean by "goes for."  I can analyze this psychology for you in about 5 seconds.

Lying.

Lying to yourself and to others.

The end.

There you go again. Accusing people of lying without any fucking evidence. And your argument rests on caricatures and willfull misinterpretations borne of your irrational prejudices. When will you ever learn?

FFS, grow up Dave.
I think I've got to stick up for him here. He posted a link to newstarget describing Mike Adam's response as a "rant". I took that to mean he was being critical of the response from Adams. He was then accused of buying into what he just criticized. 
It might have been helpful to edit the quoted bit of this post, [Serious].
In quoting the whole thing, you appear to be "sticking up for" Hawkins, not just for (maybe) being critical of NaturalNews's Mike Adams's "rant", but for all of it, including the bit I've put in red
Hawkins regularly accuses people who teach mainstream science of lying - an outrageous libel he needs to be called out on. In his embrace of pseudoscience, and his accusations of dishonesty on the part of mainstream science he is very much on the same page as Adams, which is why I doubt he meant any criticism in his use of the word "rant".  Rather, I suspect he used the term in much the same spirit as Trump supporters proudly adopted the description "deplorable" after Clinton applied that term to the racist, misogynistic, homophobic elements of his support.
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"Convince [serious] then."

Lol

He's already convinced.  I know that's disappointing to you but you'll get over it.  Why don't you go do something useful like develop a new vaccine ... you aren't adding any value here.

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"Convince [serious] then."

Lol

He's already convinced. 
Yes, but he appears to be convinced of something that probably isn't true.
He appears to be convinced that you were criticizing Mike Adams's article.
In light of your uncritical promotion of his website, NaturalNews, in the past, that seems unlikely.
I doubt that anyone has failed to notice that you refuse to acknowledge - let alone address - the direct questions:

Did you, in fact, refer to  Mike Adams's article (owner of NaturalNews) as "rant" to express your criticism of it, or not?
If so, what IS your criticism?
Where do you disagree with him?


And I doubt that anyone wonders why that is.
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I don't really care if you think [serious] is convinced of things that aren't true.   You obviously have your opinions and no one can convince you otherwise.  It's a waste of time to try.

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Don't you have better things to do than try to get someone you despise [me] to try to convince someone you don't know [serious] about things you have no interest in?  That seems weird.
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Well, we can at least all agree on this:[1] It's a waste of time to try and convince others of your honesty and the consistency of your claims.

Although not for the same reasons.
Who even made the rule that we cannot group ducks and fish together for the simple reason that they are both aquatic? If I want to group them that way and it serves my purpose then I can jolly well do it however I want to and it is still a nested hierarchy and you can't tell me that it's not.

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Don't you have better things to do than try to get someone you despise [me] to try to convince someone you don't know [serious] about things you have no interest in?  That seems weird.
Calling out bullshit, and bullshitters, is sort of a hobby of mine.
Don't worry. I get lots of other stuff done too.

As it is, I believe you have intentionally misled (i.e. bullshitted) [Serious].

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 OK thanks for your opinion.

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Anyway, if anyone's interest was piqued on this nutter, Mike Adams, here's another sample of his latest thinking

RED ALERT: Fascist Google begins PURGE of pro-Trump websites as prelude to massive false flag or coup attempt

:rofl: 

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Now, Natural News has learned that the take down of NaturalNews.com is just the opening salvo of a massive free speech purge from Google to silence pro-Trump voices across the 'net. After my announcement yesterday that described Google's outrageous censorship of Natural News, I have been contacted by several other site owners who say they were also taken offline at about the same time.

Good to know there is some degree of right-wing lunacy Hawkins is reluctant to openly embrace.
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Anyway, if anyone's interest was piqued on this nutter, Mike Adams, here's another sample of his latest thinking

RED ALERT: Fascist Google begins PURGE of pro-Trump websites as prelude to massive false flag or coup attempt

:rofl: 

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Now, Natural News has learned that the take down of NaturalNews.com is just the opening salvo of a massive free speech purge from Google to silence pro-Trump voices across the 'net. After my announcement yesterday that described Google's outrageous censorship of Natural News, I have been contacted by several other site owners who say they were also taken offline at about the same time.

Good to know there is some degree of right-wing lunacy Hawkins is reluctant to openly embrace.
Haha "Taken Offline"...    They're still online.   They're just not indexed by Google.  Can the Government force a private company to link to sites that run counter to its "sincerely held beliefs"?   Seems like something the Free Market could take care of, no?
While you were getting your PhD in virology, I got my PhD in truth detection. :wave:  Dave Hawkins

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Vox and Dave, each of you has a way to buttress your position.

Vox, if you find an example of him linking to naturalnews, or another mike adams site, it will pretty conclusively prove your point that Dave is given to getting fooled by such sites.

Dave, you've actually got a really easy one here. All you have to do is do as Vox requested and spell out some criticisms of Mike Adams and Naturalnews.

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Vox and Dave, each of you has a way to buttress your position.

Vox, if you find an example of him linking to naturalnews, or another mike adams site, it will pretty conclusively prove your point that Dave is given to getting fooled by such sites.
I did that:

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Hawkins can speak for himself whether he was being critical of the "rant" from the source he has often represented as reliable (e.g.here) or he's had a change of heart.

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I just picked one; Hawkins has cited NaturalNews multiple times. 

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"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

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https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/02/25/google-confirms-natural-news-removed-for-using-sneaky-mobile-redirects/
Yes...?
And...?

Is there a point here?
Are you confirming that Adams is on an irrational rant in his bizarre conspiracy theory about Google, but he's totally credible on raw milk, anti-vax, alternative dental science and all his other pseudoscience?
Or what?  :dunno:
"I understand Donald Trump better than many people because I really am a lot like him." - Dave Hawkins

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https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/02/25/google-confirms-natural-news-removed-for-using-sneaky-mobile-redirects/
Yes, they were delisted for noncompliance with Google's terms of service. We already knew that.

Do you have a point?
"I would never consider my evaluation of his work to be fair minded unless I had actually read his own words." - Dave Hawkins

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Vox and Dave, each of you has a way to buttress your position.

Vox, if you find an example of him linking to naturalnews, or another mike adams site, it will pretty conclusively prove your point that Dave is given to getting fooled by such sites.
I did that:

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Hawkins can speak for himself whether he was being critical of the "rant" from the source he has often represented as reliable (e.g.here) or he's had a change of heart.

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I just picked one; Hawkins has cited NaturalNews multiple times. 

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]Dave, you've actually got a really easy one here. All you have to do is do as Vox requested and spell out some criticisms of Mike Adams and Naturalnews.
I missed that. I rescind my earlier criticism.

Dave, he has you dead to rights here.

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https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/02/25/google-confirms-natural-news-removed-for-using-sneaky-mobile-redirects/
Yes...?
And...?

Is there a point here?
Are you confirming that Adams is on an irrational rant in his bizarre conspiracy theory about Google, but he's totally credible on raw milk, anti-vax, alternative dental science and all his other pseudoscience?
Or what?  :dunno:
Yes. Like you (and Newton), he's right about some things ... and he's batshit insane about other things.

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https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/02/25/google-confirms-natural-news-removed-for-using-sneaky-mobile-redirects/
Yes...?
And...?

Is there a point here?
Are you confirming that Adams is on an irrational rant in his bizarre conspiracy theory about Google, but he's totally credible on raw milk, anti-vax, alternative dental science and all his other pseudoscience?
Or what?  :dunno:
Yes. Like you (and Newton), he's right about some things ... and he's batshit insane about other things.
No. He's wrong on pretty much everything.
Because - Surprise! - "right" does not mean "agrees with Dave Hawkins".

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I don't know that he was wrong about everything. Newton might have been onto something with that alchemy business.

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https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/02/25/google-confirms-natural-news-removed-for-using-sneaky-mobile-redirects/
Yes...?
And...?

Is there a point here?
Are you confirming that Adams is on an irrational rant in his bizarre conspiracy theory about Google, but he's totally credible on raw milk, anti-vax, alternative dental science and all his other pseudoscience?
Or what?  :dunno:
Yes. Like you (and Newton), he's right about some things ... and he's batshit insane about other things.

Ok, so you've got an opportunity to get me back on board here. What things does he say that are right, and what things are batshit insane? Why do the respective things get categorized as one or the other?