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I wonder what the ecological impact of this "fake meat" is ...

"Real meat" raised correctly IMPROVES ecosystems. (And methane is not a problem)

My guess is that fake meat degrades them

There's been at least one easy-to-Google study that showed cultured meat to be more environmentally friendly than traditional meat production. Also, methane is a huge problem.
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The rural poor benefit disporportionately from minimum wage increases, given cost of living considerations. And they do get food assistance. Lots of it. I don't get this crazy myth that urban blacks... erm, poor people generally, get secret magic benefits.
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Science / Re: Deextinction and Rewilding
Part of the problem is the American government won't fund weather satellites that were already built, because... reasons?
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A hot dog is not a sandwich. I will not relent on this point.
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I don't know how reasonable it is to imagine everyone raising their own cattle, but in some few decades, it might be possible for everyone to grow their own beef. Think every home having a personal cultured meat vat, fed with leftover produce. Some of that produce could come from community rooftop gardens.



Which might be a bit utopian, but great strides are being made towards perfecting cultured meat.

An additional alternative is that we develop suitable substitutes for meat as well. Some of the best 'meat' dishes I eat have no meat in them. I'll take vegetarian (soy based) hotdogs over meat hotdogs any day. Similarly tofu instead of beef in stir fry type dishes.

Yeah. My local grocery stores can't even keep the best meat alternatives in stock.

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The study found that 36 percent of consumers buy plant-based 'meats' and 58 percent of adults are drinking non-dairy 'milks'. In the post, the retail giant doesn't tell companies to go entirely plant-based, but instead to identify products that could potentially be marketed that way. This request will likely have influence on food manufacturers' future product developments and marketing strategies, meaning the words 'plant-based' may become a regular sight in Walmart stores.
-http://www.cookinglight.com/healthy-living/walmart-plant-based-products
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I don't know how reasonable it is to imagine everyone raising their own cattle, but in some few decades, it might be possible for everyone to grow their own beef. Think every home having a personal cultured meat vat, fed with leftover produce. Some of that produce could come from community rooftop gardens.



Which might be a bit utopian, but great strides are being made towards perfecting cultured meat.
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Science / Re: Interstellar asteroid
Even odds it's an alien spaceship.
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Hey teeth

http://squid314.livejournal.com/329171.html

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Feminism is a memeplex that provides a bunch of pattern-matching opportunities where a man is in the wrong and a woman is in the right. To give a very personal example, I mentioned a few days ago how I was close friends with a woman until I asked her out and she then decided to have a fit and cut off all contact with me. Normally everyone would agree I was in the right and try to console me and maybe even her own friends would tell her she was overreacting. But thanks to feminism she has a superweapon - she can accuse me of being a Nice Guy (TM) and therefore Worse Than Hitler (TM). The appropriate cliche having been conveniently provided, enough people decide to round to the nearest cliche and decide that I am in the wrong that the incident raises her status and decreases my own.

I'm pretty sure feminism has nothing to do with this guy being ghosted.
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The actual Dave does, but Dave's idealized Dave, lives on whatever few animals and crops he's outlined.
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Tomatoes originated in America, and therefore aren't a Biblical fruit. Then again, so did potatoes. Dave basically just limits his agricultural vision to his personal culinary preferences.
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Dave's commune would be able to get vitamin C from the potatoes, and animal byproducts, like beef spleen. I don't see what the Stefansson account has to do with anything whatsoever, though.
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My settlement will be so much better. We'll have lentils and glass blowers.
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Ok here's my settlement diagram ... approx 500 acres ... 0.8 mile X 1 mile ... approx 40 dwellings ... half of them is elder housing at center ... other half out further ... 120 persons total ...  purposely did not draw roads or paths yet ... upper version is lots of small farmers ... lower version is 4 larger ones.


Now let's look at food production ... first we will consider a simple diet ... milk, meat, eggs, wheat, oats and potatoes  and later we can look at a more varied diet.  Also for simplicity we will assume that 50% of each person's food calories comes from milk, meat, and eggs, 25% comes from grains, and 25% comes from potatoes.  Let's assume that half of the farmers in each scenario are like me and like raising milk, eggs, and meat in a single integrated rotationally grazed system. And the other half are like Pingu and they raise the potatoes and the grains.  Now potatoes and grains are well suited for a single harvest every year and they store well.  Milk, meat, and eggs do not store well.  So now that I have stated some working assumptions, let's do some analysis and see if we can find out which system works best and why.
Let's assume that both scenarios are like a checkerboard. And all the farmers on the red squares raise milk, meat, and eggs. And all the farmers on the black squares raise and potatoes and grains. 

Can we discuss the troubling lack of legumes in this scenario?
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You don't elect a child molester to the US Senate with scruples.
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The 30 second thing aside, it seems to kinda defeat the point of the cams, if cops can just shut them off whenever, and not be questioned about it.
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Using squares just makes it easier to put Dave's diagrams to practical use, like as maps for a D&D game.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Can we weaponize the pathological Clinton hatred for 2020? Somehow promote Clinton conspiracies to distract from our actual candidate?
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I heard an interview with Doug Jones, and he seems like he would make for a stand-up senator. It's kinda stupid that there's even a debate about electing a pedophile over him.
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So the reporting here was right and justified, but what if it wasn't?
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Given attitudes about Roy Moore, I imagine Republicans must be ready to let felons vote. So that's good.
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I mean, you would think the Polish would have had enough of Nazi rule for at least a few centuries, but nope.
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Anyways, Hillary won Virginia by approx. 5 points. Northam won Virginia by approx. 9 points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ