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Messages - meepmeep

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Here's a nobody getting some press:



Reminded me of a grad student who got arrested when I was in college. My roommate and I used to refer to him as Mr. Mittens:

https://nypost.com/2005/04/07/princeton-student-a-math-whiz/

eta in retrospect some really weird bizarro shit went down at Princeton back in the day
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I'm still trying to understand how liberals are better at being shitheaded retards than conservatives are.

they say mean things which is worse than the active destruction of government functions and democratic norms and blatant fucking corruption and literally supporting a pedophile and cruel punitive deportations and all those other awesome things currently happening

ugh libs are so smarmy *shoots self in the dick, grins*
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Keeping America safe:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/immigrant-to-trump-administration-my-wife-has-cancer-let-me-stay-in-america

Super safe, actually:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-end-provisional-residency-protection-for-50000-haitians/2017/11/20/fa3fdd86-ce4a-11e7-9d3a-bcbe2af58c3a_story.html

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More than half the Haitians affected by Monday's announcement live in Florida, where lawmakers had asked that they be allowed to remain. The lawmakers cited ongoing economic and political difficulties in Haiti, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, as well as a still-raging cholera epidemic.

"I traveled to Haiti after the earthquake in 2010 and after hurricane Matthew in 2016. So I can personally attest that Haiti is not prepared to take back nearly 60,000 TPS recipients under these difficult and harsh conditions," said Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.), one of several GOP lawmakers who joined Democratic leaders in chastising the decision on Twitter. Ros-Lehtinen is co-sponsoring a bipartisan bill that would extend TPS for Haitians and others.


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stop being better at being horrible than the horrible choice!

shit like this is why i can't justify taking the time to respond more seriously
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The urban poor are cast as victims.  They are stuck in a cycle of poverty that is intergenerational with long-lasting effects.  They can't break out of that cycle themselves - they need our help!  It's not their fault!

The rural poor are cast as villains.  They're determined to make bad decisions fueled by their ignorance and their hick ways.  They don't have the hutzpah to just move to a better place.  They don't deserve our help.  They're responsible for their decisions.

on a scale of 1-10, how high are you right now?
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I'm sure a literal admitted rapist and abuser like Mike Cernovich deeply cares about going after aexual harassers.
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But if you happen to be fond of trees, or gardens, or home-cooked meals, or a back-yard, or a dog that doesn't fit in a purse, or the sound of the wind instead of cars, or the occasional bunny rabbit or dear being visible outside of a zoo... Yeah, not so much.
I just wanted to point out that I live walking distance from downtown Philadelphia--a city with twice the population of Seattle--and my neighborhood has trees, gardens, home-cooked meals, backyards, and no shortage of large dogs. I have also seen the occasional bunny in Philly and my wife once saw a deer in a nearby park. I think you may want to extract that cartoon image of cities from your head, because most city dwellers are not living in the kind of dystopian, Blade Runner setting that you think they are.

I'm a few blocks from Clark Park, and my neighborhood is full of dogs. My dog has been getting reactive on leash, so I try to avoid other dogs on the street, and if I walk him at certain hours, it's impossible for me to go a block without running into another dog.

Anyway, this doesn't compare to the quiet and greenery of some other areas, and I basically hate my shitty neighborhood for other reasons, but there are trees, gardens, and lots of critters in cities. I may not see horsies everywhere like when I go out to Chester County, but cities have wildlife. Philly has a variety of small mammals, birds, coyotes, fish, little garden snake buddies, deer, etc. in addition to the more common city wildlife like pigeons, mice, and raccoons. Oh and there's literally a national wildlife refuge 5 miles from my apartment.

I'm not the biggest fan of city living, but it is more efficient, more sustainable, and more cost effective to have more densely populated settlements. The things that make individual cities or neighborhoods suck have more to do with bad planning and shitty local politics.
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John Conyers previously settled a wrongful dismissal case involving sexual harassment: https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/she-complained-that-a-powerful-congressman-harassed-her
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Charlie Rose:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html

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Eight women have told The Washington Post that longtime television host Charlie Rose made unwanted sexual advances toward them, including lewd phone calls, walking around naked in their presence, or groping their breasts, buttocks or genital areas.

The women were employees or aspired to work for Rose at the "Charlie Rose" show from the late 1990s to as recently as 2011. They ranged in age from 21 to 37 at the time of the alleged encounters. Rose, 75, whose show airs on PBS, also co-hosts "CBS This Morning" and is a contributing correspondent for "60 Minutes."

There are striking commonalities in the accounts of the women, each of whom described their interactions with Rose in multiple interviews with The Post. For all of the women, reporters interviewed friends, colleagues or family members who said the women had confided in them about aspects of the incidents. Three of the eight spoke on the record.

I wonder who tomorrow's shitbag is going to be!
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I keep thinking back to Schroedinger's rapist and how angry lots of dudes got about that piece.
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u mad bro?
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I'd imagine it's predominantly Jewish men because Jewish men are demographically over represented in the Hollywood power structure and Hollywood is still one of the most insular and unaccountable industries out there. There's just way too much fear of reprisal for rando underling to go to HR and file a complaint.

also no one gives a shit or hears about it when men in other industries are exposed
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Demanding the benefits of modern society = demanding the coal industry be artificially propped up and magically brought back at the rest of the world's expense while also refusing any retraining that would equip people to work in modern society

also lmbo at "nearly un-subsidized" still
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Idgaf about people living old fashioned rural lives but what I do gaf about is when those people demand their lifestyle and no one else's be subsidized.
Lol... Okay, now that I'm done giggling...

Why don't we take a look at the impact of city-based legislation within states?  ALL of WA is now paying for a high-speed rail that will serve a very small portion of WA.  The entirety of Eastern WA gets slapped with all sorts of cost-burdens, so that urban-dwellers in the very tiny footprint of Seattle can have better lives.  There are all sorts of state-assisted programs available for the poor as long as they live in cities - if they live in rural areas, well fuck-em.  They don't count, they're backwards ignorant hillbillies who don't deserve the assistance of their urban betters  ::)

For fuck's sake, do you have any idea at all exactly how much assistance and revenue goes to helping cities?  Do you have any idea how little of any kind of assistance goes to rural areas?

And you want to blather on about how it's so uppity of those nearly un-subsidized people in "fly-over" areas to demand that they should have some of the benefits of a modern society too!  How dare they! 

lol
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lol now we know why Glenn Thrush quit Twitter, though he probably should've just deactivated his account without making a big deal out of it:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/20/16678094/glenn-thrush-new-york-times

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Three young women I interviewed, including the young woman who met Thrush in June, described to me a range of similar experiences, from unwanted groping and kissing to wet kisses out of nowhere to hazy sexual encounters that played out under the influence of alcohol. Each woman described feeling differently about these experiences: scared, violated, ashamed, weirded out. I was -- and am -- angry.

Details of their stories suggest a pattern. All of the women were in their 20s at the time. They were relatively early in their careers compared to Thrush, who was the kind of seasoned journalist who would be good to know. At an event with alcohol, he made advances. Afterward, they (as I did) thought it best to stay on good terms with Thrush, whatever their feelings.

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On that night five years ago, I joined Thrush and a handful of other reporters for a few rounds at the Continental, a Politico hangout in Rosslyn, Virginia. At first, nothing seemed strange, until the crowd had dwindled down to Thrush, me, and one other female colleague.

Thrush tossed a $20 bill at her and told her to take a cab and leave us, "the grown-ups," alone. He slid into my side of the booth, blocking me in. I was wearing a skirt, and he put his hand on my thigh. He started kissing me. I pulled myself together and got out of there, shoving him on my way out.

In the morning, Thrush sent me an apologetic email. I didn't save it, but I recall it as similar to the one he would later send to PadrĂ³ Ocasio's friend in June. He said he was sorry, but he didn't say for what, exactly.

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Gradually, things in the office started to change for me. Certain men in the newsroom, I thought, started to look at me differently. Some of their comments seemed a bit too familiar or were outright offensive. I had a nagging sense that I just wasn't as respected as I used to be.

I started to think maybe I shouldn't be in journalism if I couldn't hang in a tough newsroom. I found myself on edge, nervous and anxious all the time. I started to believe I had brought this all on myself.

In the course of reporting this story, I was told by a male reporter who'd worked at Politico at the time that my instinct was right. He said that the day after that night at the bar, Thrush told him about the incident, except with the roles reversed. I had come onto him, the reporter said Thrush told him, and he had gently shut it down.

For those keeping score at home, basically, if men openly talk about women in disparaging terms or dismiss harassment or abuse, that's a warning sign that they're a piece of shit, and you should stay away from them. If men openly talk about supporting women and acknowledge the struggles they face, they may also be a piece of shit, and you should stay away from them. Also if you're ever afraid or if you have any issues trusting men, you're a crazy fucking bitch.
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USA! USA! USA!

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article184541668.html

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At least five people are dead in shooting spree Tuesday at seven scenes that included an elementary school in Rancho Tehama, a town of about 1,500 people west of Corning in Tehama County, the Record Searchlight newspaper in Redding reports.
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wow i wonder if there was any due process before he was banned from the mall or was he just tried and convicted in the food court of public opinion??

judge sbarro is part of the liberal conspiracy to ruin powerful men's careers
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My old classmate originally broke the story! :cheer: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/

lol this guy is so dumb:
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According to a source familiar with the congressional investigations into Russian interference with the 2016 campaign, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, on the same day that Trump Jr. received the first message from WikiLeaks, he emailed other senior officials with the Trump campaign, including Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Brad Parscale, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, telling them WikiLeaks had made contact. Kushner then forwarded the email to campaign communications staffer Hope Hicks. At no point during the 10-month correspondence does Trump Jr. rebuff WikiLeaks, which had published stolen documents and was already observed to be releasing information that benefited Russian interests.

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"Strongly suggest your dad tweets this link if he mentions us," WikiLeaks went on, pointing Trump Jr. to the link wlsearch.tk, which it said would help Trump's followers dig through the trove of stolen documents and find stories. "There's many great stories the press are missing and we're sure some of your follows [sic] will find it," WikiLeaks went on. "Btw we just released Podesta Emails Part 4."

Trump Jr. did not respond to this message. But just 15 minutes after it was sent, as The Wall Street Journal's Byron Tau pointed out, Donald Trump himself tweeted, "Very little pick-up by the dishonest media of incredible information provided by WikiLeaks. So dishonest! Rigged system!"

Two days later, on October 14, 2016, Trump Jr. tweeted out the link WikiLeaks had provided him. "For those who have the time to read about all the corruption and hypocrisy all the @wikileaks emails are right here: http://wlsearch.tk/," he wrote.
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Was just coming here to post that.

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This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people--including a major political figure in the state--who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they've heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. "Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls," the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that "it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls." Jones told me that she couldn't confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, "It's a rumor I've heard for years."
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people, stop indulging pandora's bullshit here, she is not arguing in good faith.

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And in the interest of fair disclosure... I pressured a reluctant lab partner into bed once. He had a girl friend, but I thought he was really hot and I wanted him. I turned up the heat until he caved, even though he had clearly said on several occasions that he had a girlfriend, and really loved her.

Did I rape him? He never explicitly gave consent, and I did provide him a few drinks to 'loosen him up'.

eta: this is at the end of a huge thread full of her hemming and hawing about whether plying someone with booze in order to more easily fuck them should really be considered rape-rape.

I don't know how to label this kind of behavior, but it is predatory and harmful, and reading that made me sick to my stomach. I bet pandora has no idea how much harm she probably caused this man, but her momentary pleasure is more important than another person's pain so lololol was that rape lolol ?

These topics are certainly dredging up some shit.
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These allegations were confirmed by something like 30 fucking sources but oh no someone might destroy a man's career, the most precious and valuable thing on earth, because he just so happened to have molested underage girls! How unfair that a man be held accountable for his predation.

What his victims? What about their lives and careers? Worthless, right?
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How dare you moralize about a 30 something man making a 14 year old touch his dick HOW DARE YOU