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  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #125
my personal anecdotal experience says it's not just about a drop in turnout by trump base voters, the movement of white professionals away from the gop is real and significant

this deserves every bit as much weight as cockrell's personal anecdotal experience that northern virginia was plastered with romney yard signs

  • MikeS
Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #126
anyway have 15 mostly decent hot takes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/11/08/15-takeaways-from-virginia/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.4b55e92cf558
9. Northam was boring, but normal and well-qualified. There will be a lot of boring, normal and well-qualified Democrats who think their ship has come in. They can run as anti-Trumpists and against know-nothingism.

One can only hope that the upcoming wave has many of these folks in the mix.

Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #127
https://thebaffler.com/latest/virginia-linkins

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In short, a slew of discrete victories--won in different places and for distinct reasons--have amounted to wholesale change in the Commonwealth of Virginia. But the unified themes of Tuesday night's election in Virginia can't be measured solely in terms of available votes in the House of Delegates, or an overall change in the political tides. On Tuesday night, Virginia voters notched an important victory over blather.

After all, the way the media had set the stage for Tuesday night's tilt made it look like everyone should be prepared for a long day's journey into despondency, with the perpetually back-on-his-bullshit Chris Cillizza leading the way with an Election Day piece that all-but predicted a Democratic Party failure. Still, it's hard to fault Cillizza. If anything, the hyperactive shiny-ball chaser was trailing in the wake of a larger media narrative that included a solid week of supposition that Donna Brazile's infinitely publicized tell-all account of the inner wranglings of the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 election was sure to depress Democratic turnout and cost Northam the election. And all of that was preceded by the verdict of the pundit class that held that the Virginians who had stood athwart the incursion of white supremacists in Charlottesville were equally guilty of divisiveness and political violence as Richard Spencer's hopeful neo-Nazi genocidaires.

Virginians, to their shining credit, tuned out all of that noise, and refused to be demoralized. Moreover, they refused to succumb to the false choices that have become a media-inflated theme in the Democratic Party's post-Trump autopsy. The notion that Democrats had to make an either-or choice between advancing the civil rights of marginalized Americans and the economic remedies that could help the working class held no sway in Virginia. Neither did the notion that a choice needed to be made between Hillary Clinton-style incrementalism and Bernie Sanders-style boldness.

On Tuesday night, wherever a potential avatar of a responsible form of politics arose to challenge the sucking vacuum of Trumpism, Virginians voted for said avatar. Whether they could claim an inch, or a yard, or a mile, they claimed it. Wherever it was possible to make something--anything--a little bit better, they seized the opportunity. There was no quibbling over what item on the menu might be more digestible or more pure in its creation--Virginia voters just carted off the whole buffet.

eta this does indeed own and i hope it gets more attention:

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Perhaps the most hopeful thing that happened in America on Tuesday night happened at the start of Ralph Northam's victory speech, when a group of protesters who hadn't forgotten about his mealy-mouthed support for that anti-sanctuary city bill briefly crashed the party and let their disapproving voice be heard. There's no doubt that this will be spun as Northam's unsteady beginning, or some other black mark on an otherwise impressive victory. In reality, though--non-punditized, un-Twitterfied reality--the encounter demonstrated that a new generation of Democratic voters were ready to do more than cast a vote and hope for the best, but rather, come walking through that door left ajar.
  • Last Edit: November 09, 2017, 08:19:00 AM by the idea of Harambe

Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #128

Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #129
https://thebaffler.com/latest/virginia-linkins

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In short, a slew of discrete victories--won in different places and for distinct reasons--have amounted to wholesale change in the Commonwealth of Virginia. But the unified themes of Tuesday night's election in Virginia can't be measured solely in terms of available votes in the House of Delegates, or an overall change in the political tides. On Tuesday night, Virginia voters notched an important victory over blather.

After all, the way the media had set the stage for Tuesday night's tilt made it look like everyone should be prepared for a long day's journey into despondency, with the perpetually back-on-his-bullshit Chris Cillizza leading the way with an Election Day piece that all-but predicted a Democratic Party failure. Still, it's hard to fault Cillizza. If anything, the hyperactive shiny-ball chaser was trailing in the wake of a larger media narrative that included a solid week of supposition that Donna Brazile's infinitely publicized tell-all account of the inner wranglings of the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 election was sure to depress Democratic turnout and cost Northam the election. And all of that was preceded by the verdict of the pundit class that held that the Virginians who had stood athwart the incursion of white supremacists in Charlottesville were equally guilty of divisiveness and political violence as Richard Spencer's hopeful neo-Nazi genocidaires.

Virginians, to their shining credit, tuned out all of that noise, and refused to be demoralized. Moreover, they refused to succumb to the false choices that have become a media-inflated theme in the Democratic Party's post-Trump autopsy. The notion that Democrats had to make an either-or choice between advancing the civil rights of marginalized Americans and the economic remedies that could help the working class held no sway in Virginia. Neither did the notion that a choice needed to be made between Hillary Clinton-style incrementalism and Bernie Sanders-style boldness.

On Tuesday night, wherever a potential avatar of a responsible form of politics arose to challenge the sucking vacuum of Trumpism, Virginians voted for said avatar. Whether they could claim an inch, or a yard, or a mile, they claimed it. Wherever it was possible to make something--anything--a little bit better, they seized the opportunity. There was no quibbling over what item on the menu might be more digestible or more pure in its creation--Virginia voters just carted off the whole buffet.

eta this does indeed own and i hope it gets more attention:

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Perhaps the most hopeful thing that happened in America on Tuesday night happened at the start of Ralph Northam's victory speech, when a group of protesters who hadn't forgotten about his mealy-mouthed support for that anti-sanctuary city bill briefly crashed the party and let their disapproving voice be heard. There's no doubt that this will be spun as Northam's unsteady beginning, or some other black mark on an otherwise impressive victory. In reality, though--non-punditized, un-Twitterfied reality--the encounter demonstrated that a new generation of Democratic voters were ready to do more than cast a vote and hope for the best, but rather, come walking through that door left ajar.


This is basically what my takeaway from Tuesday was just said much gooder. There's no one single template, style, or set of issues that won on Tuesday. It wasn't just DSA/Bernie-style populism, it wasn't just centrist Democrats, it wasn't just anti-Trump, it wasn't identity politics and it wasn't just a focus on white working class idpol. It was all of it to varying degrees in different places.

Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #130
it's a good place to be in politically because it means that the current political climate is an opportunity, not a constant threat. we can ask, "what do we want to do," and not just "what do we need to do."

Re: Virginia Governor's Race
Reply #131
Reminds me of a piece that had me really optimistic last spring about finally being able to end "defensive crouch" liberalism on the Supreme Court because the majority would soon be 5-4 (D)  :smith: