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  • Pingu
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #75
Figuer is safe in Wisconsin.
I have a Darwin-debased mind.

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #76
and there goes my silver lining.

  • Bilirubin
  • Ain't nothing ta fuck wit'
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #77
Wisconsin is Spain

  • ksen
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #78
Figuer is safe in Wisconsin.

Scott Walker and Paul Ryan's state? Is anyone really safe there?

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #79
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41780116
Catalans declare independence as Madrid imposes direct rule

Catalan Parliament voted to declare independence with a majority of present members (70 out of 82, in a 135 member parliament). Surprised how low that turnout was; you'd think with something as big as independence everyone would show up.

  • el jefe
  • asleep till 2020 or 2024
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #80
boycotts?

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #81
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41780116
Catalans declare independence as Madrid imposes direct rule

Catalan Parliament voted to declare independence with a majority of present members (70 out of 82, in a 135 member parliament). Surprised how low that turnout was; you'd think with something as big as independence everyone would show up.

I don't know if that's the joke, but they abstained in protest

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #82
Yeah, a lot of them abstained in protest, just like when the people actually voted. 

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #83
Ah. Hadn't found that on a quick survey..

  • MikeS
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #84
So basically the Independent party of Catalonia voted in favor of Independence.  Surprise, surprise.
While the courts will strike it down at every level.
Then the fun begins when the Guardia Civil encroach, and take over, policing within the state and arrest those Independence ministers for eventual prosecution, shut down the local parliament and enforce federal rule.
You can bet the Guardia Civil is now vetting all people sent to the region as both reliable and "foreign" (i.e. from another Spanish state) so that when head-cracking begins they won't feel bad about hitting people of their own "tribe".  Because Spain is really just a bunch of tribes in a Federal State.

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #85
took karma 525 years to get to Madrid. Must have been taking the Spanish railways.

  • ToThePoint
  • search & destroy
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #86
Follow the money....
Good article at Bloomberg.com regarding how Catalonia's financial stability faces problems in both directions; whether they ultimately print their own currency or reapply to join the EU & the euro zone.

"This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #87
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41783289

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Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is dissolving the Catalan parliament and calling snap local elections after MPs there voted to declare independence.


  • linus
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #88
Puigdemont on the run in Belgium.
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Theo Francken, Belgium's immigration minister, said over the weekend that an asylum application was "not unrealistic" but Prime Minister Charles Michel later said it was "absolutely not on the agenda".

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Spain's Attorney General José Manuel Maza called on Monday for rebellion, sedition and misuse of funds charges to be brought against Catalan leaders.
If found guilty of rebellion, Mr Puigdemont could face a jail term of up to 30 years.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41811649

ETA: Not sure what he's thinking. He probably needs to get out of the EU if he wants to escape the Spanish legal system.
  • Last Edit: October 30, 2017, 04:06:46 PM by linus

  • MikeS
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #89
It's too bad Spanish law doesn't have some medieval punishment carry-over for crimes like sedition and rebellion.

A public drawn and quartered would certainly get a high TV rating.

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #90
just a reminder that Rajoy is intentionally turning this into a shitshow to distract from the corruption investigation targeting his admnistration

  • meepmeep
  • Administrator
  • zombiecat queen
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #91
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41840070

Ffffffffffffffuuuuuuck

This is going to get much uglier, isn't it?

  • ksen
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #92
I'm sure it'll be fine.

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #93

  • ksen
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #94
I think it's really about Spain not wanting to lose Barcelona FC.

  • Bilirubin
  • Ain't nothing ta fuck wit'
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #95
Lionel Messi's new contract crushes Spain's economy

Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #96
https://apnews.com/47706f1c47504175b814d681c58d5c3f

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A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest warrant for ousted Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont and four aides who have been last seen in Brussels.

Think we're at the "you asked for this" level of it's happening.

  • MikeS
Re: Catalonian Independence
Reply #97
https://apnews.com/47706f1c47504175b814d681c58d5c3f

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A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest warrant for ousted Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont and four aides who have been last seen in Brussels.

Think we're at the "you asked for this" level of it's happening.
Even if all the patriotic charges (sedition, etc.) are thrown out he's guilty of misspending public finances in an obvious illegal venture (the independence ballot).  If you can't get them for the actual crime then just follow the money and some crime occurred there too.