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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #25
Just as a clue, if our data set happened to be planetary surface temperatures between, but not inclusive of, the orbits of Mercury and Mars and we determine an average temperature for that set - do you think there would be outliers?
BTW, I bet this is a pretty devastating point in the argument with the strawman "alarmist" you always seem to think you're having.

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Reply #26
What's funny is a matter of individual taste and perception.

Also it depends on who falls into a open sewer and dies.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #27
True. It was a blatant lie anyway. Unclear antecedents can be a great source of humor.

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Reply #28
It was a blatant lie anyway.
There you again. What exactly was "it" that you lied about?

What does "it" mean in your statement?  Lack of clarity is the bane of science.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #29
As for the US cooling trend, it shows up clearly in the data.  Even GISS hasn't adjusted the data enough to remove the puzzling "warming hole".

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #30
It was a blatant lie anyway.
There you again. What exactly was "it" that you lied about?

What does "it" mean in your statement?  Lack of clarity is the bane of science.

See? It's hilarious!

Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #31
As for the US cooling trend, it shows up clearly in the data.  Even GISS hasn't adjusted the data enough to remove the puzzling "warming hole".
Yes, it's interesting that certain areas during certain times of the year show cooling trends over certain periods while the global average for the year as a whole shows a warming trend. It's not amazing, and it doesn't mean that climate science is bullshit, but it's interesting.
  • Last Edit: October 10, 2017, 09:32:44 AM by BenTheBiased

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Reply #32
..  it doesn't mean that climate science is bullshit, but it's interesting.
It's a shame some fuckhead moved the topic where I was explaining exactly what I find bullshit, and why.

In fact, moving the topic was bullshit.
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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #33
If the NH winter (boreal winter) cooling trend was just regional cooling, natural variation, where small areas showed cooling rather than the expected warming, it certainly could be handwaved away and ignored. 

The best handwaving is to say "yeah, but it's not global" ...

A direct question: is it global?

Please provide a direct answer (a direct answer to a "yes or no" question can only be "yes" or "no" - anything else is dissembling).

Thanks.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #34
The best handwaving is to say "yeah, but it's not global" which is almost the last bastion of the true believer in "global warming is a fact no matter what any evidence shows".  The next to last one is "you have to look at a longer trend". (the very last bastion is "So what?")
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Reply #35
The best handwaving is to say "yeah, but it's not global" ...
A direct question: is it global?
I'm betting you don't see the irony.
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Reply #36


It's almost as if warm air masses and cold air masses are moving around to places they don't usually go. And the warm air masses seem to be warmer than usual, more often than the cold air masses are colder than usual. Wonder what it means?
  • Last Edit: November 10, 2017, 01:28:23 PM by Autonemesis

Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #37
It means you need to up the dosage.

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Reply #38
It's almost as if warm air masses and cold air masses are moving around to places they don't usually go.
No, it just means you are an idiot.  One station, one year, well lets's just say using such data to try and make a point about climate is idiotic.

Wonder what it means?

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #39
It's almost as if warm air masses and cold air masses are moving around to places they don't usually go.
No, it just means you are an idiot.  One station, one year, well lets's just say using such data to try and make a point about climate is idiotic.

What point do you think I'm trying to make about climate?

The best handwaving is to say "yeah, but it's not global" ...
A direct question: is it global?
I'm betting you don't see the irony.

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Re: NH winter cooling
Reply #40
... the NH winter (boreal winter) cooling trend ..
A direct question: is it global?
  No, the Northern Hemisphere (boreal) winter is not global, and can't be global.  By definition it means the Northern Hemisphere winter,  If the austral summer was also showing cooling then one might say the D-J-F time period was a global trend, but that is not how things work.
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