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Messages - DaveGodfrey

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The Roman Empire or the Holy Roman Empire? I thought the Norse religion was mostly wiped out even by the start of the HRE.
Details.
Charlemagne was crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 800. The Norse religions were still around then, even if they were being ruthlessly oppressed at the time. (viz, Charlemagne's massacre of pagan Saxons at Verden).
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No Dave, we're pointing out that the consensual relationship that Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky is not the same at all as an arranged relationship between with an underage girl and a man old enough to be her grandfather. There's nothing fake about this.
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Because Constantine won the Battle of the Milvian Bridge through the power of hugging.
Freedom of worship was not secured by Constantine. Sorry try again.
So who was is secured by?
Jesus

Really? So Jesus was emperor and passed decrees allowing people to worship freely and removing the need to publicly swear oaths on gods they didn't believe in?

That's a very weird Bible you have there.

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And I'd note that once the Christians took over completely they very quickly went the other way and prevented the various pagan sects and mystery cults from worshipping freely. Not a lot of "love" going on there was there? Just ask Hypatia.
Exactly.

Which is why I said it wasn't Constantine that secured it.

Constantine didn't make Christianity the only state religion Dave.
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How about answering questions put to you so people don't feel the need to?
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Because Constantine won the Battle of the Milvian Bridge through the power of hugging.
Freedom of worship was not secured by Constantine. Sorry try again.
So who was is secured by?

And I'd note that once the Christians took over completely they very quickly went the other way and prevented the various pagan sects and mystery cults from worshipping freely. Not a lot of "love" going on there was there? Just ask Hypatia.
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Because Constantine won the Battle of the Milvian Bridge through the power of hugging.
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Honestly, no. You're just confirming what I thought about you.
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Dave, finding support for slavery in your holy book isn't endearing it to us.
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Whereas Trump pays them hush money from his campaign contributions.
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So what knowledge of the ancient did Keplpler think he was rediscovering?

Be specific.
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Dave, there's also a biological response that immediately shuts down any attraction that there might be.
No.  There's a MORAL response that immediately shuts down any attraction that there might be.  And there's no "might" about it.  Come on.  Get real.
So you're attracted to all women, regardless?

There doesn't need to be anything moral about it Dave. I'm not attracted to people who look 15. Just as I'm not attracted to men.
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Dave, are you an incel?
You're joking, right? You can't be this dumb. No I'm not. Not celibate at all.
I can only go by the words you write Dave, and you come across as exactly that kind of person. Regardless of whether you have a girlfriend or not.
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Are You? Lots of people have sexless marriages you know.
You do know what an "incel" is Dave? Please look it up before immediately throwing out your standard IKYABWAI.
Dude.

I'm the king of Google.  I had no idea what it was so I Googled.  Involuntary.  Celibate. 

You really need to experience a mental shift and come to the understanding that it's really quite rare for people to not know something, thanks to Google.  If you don't know it now, you will know it 5 seconds from now because of Google.  Why do you not realize this basic fact of our modern society?
Dave, its not just that though. It's a whole subculture of men who who have abominable attitudes towards women, especially those who don't fit their warped ideas of how women should behave, who regularly defend attitudes to leching over teenage girls with "its biological", and well, actuallying about ephebephilia. Just as you have done in this thread and others. It's not just about not getting any.

Yes, you know what the term means, well done. But your hawkinsing of whatever you found on google clearly meant you failed to understand what else it means.
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Plenty of their opponents liked ancient arguments too. They didn't earn a place in history did they?

Just because someone thought they were rediscovering the lost knowledge of the ancients doesn't mean they were. There were dozens of Greek philosophers with dozens of theories about the nature of matter andthe universe some of them were bound to be vaguely on the right track, even if they had no empirical evidence to support them, and for people working at that time it was politically expedient to tie your work to older texts and models lest they appear heretical.
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Dave, there's also a biological response that immediately shuts down any attraction that there might be.
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Dave, are you an incel?
You're joking, right? You can't be this dumb. No I'm not. Not celibate at all.
I can only go by the words you write Dave, and you come across as exactly that kind of person. Regardless of whether you have a girlfriend or not.
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Are You? Lots of people have sexless marriages you know.
You do know what an "incel" is Dave? Please look it up before immediately throwing out your standard IKYABWAI.
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Dave, are you an incel?
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Translation: "I got nutthin'"

So what observations were Kepler's laws based on the if not Tycho Brahe's? You know, the guy who spent years making observations of the planets at Uraniborg and passed his notebooks on to Kepler, who was his student.

What earlier observations of Jupiter's moons was Galileo working from? What observations that disproved the idea that objects with different masses fall at different rates was he using?
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Dave in "well actually its ephebephilia" shocker.
Dave G is now going to pretend that he doesn't find 15 year old girls attractive who are fully developed sexually.

In other news, high schools have their cheerleaders wear short skirts because it's hot. ( temperature )
Are you really.going to go down this route again Dave?
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Kepler's arguments were based on data gathered by Tycho Brahe in his lifetime Dave. His arguments about the laws of planetary motion were new, and based on new and more accurate data. Just as Galileo's were.
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"Dave, the Maasai also practise FGM. Would you advocate it?"

 Why do you keep asking this question when you already know the answer? Of course I would not and you already know that so you are simply being dishonest.
No, I'm not being dishonest. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy in your thinking.

So if you oppose FGM, why do you advocate child marriage then? They're both abuse.
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Dave, the Maasai also practise FGM. Would you advocate it?

I could understand if, being the son of missionaries, you rejected automatically anything that could be considered cultural imperialism- like for instance Western human rights organisations campaigning against it, and would only support movements that came from.members of the Maasai themselves. But that's very clearly not what you're about at all with your messianic plan to save agriculture for everyone, everywhere.
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Dave in "well actually its ephebephilia" shocker.
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No it does not.
feel free to explain.
i don't need to explain anything.
You are the one making libelous assertions here.
It's up to you to justify them.
Or badger, as per usual.
if you are an abortion supporter then you are most likely okay with late-term abortions which means that you are good with killing babies.
Why is the late-term abortion happening Dave? Does the foetus have a heartbeat? Does it have a brain? Is the mother bleeding to death?
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No Dave its not hard to imagine at all. I'm sure we can all think of things that happened at office parties for example. If its consensual, the woman in question initiated the relationship, and its off the clock, nobody here has that big of an issue with it. Is ti "conduct unbecoming"? Why yes, absolutely, but its not illegal, and the guy you think is doing the bestest job ever has done more than his fair share of that. Is it a reason to resign? Not until he starts lying about it, or promoting "family values", and is therefore clearly being hypocritical.

Dave, if you wanted to pick an example of appalling behaviour by Bill Clinton you could have chosen the allegations of sexual harassment or the rape he is accused of. But that might not work out so well, given that happens in cultures where child marriage is common, such as the Maasai.
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And yet the words of actual Maasai women who are trying to end the practice of child marriage and FGM suggest that there absolutely is mistreatment.