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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #400
A FRESH HOT TAKE APPEARS: Left-wing politics will be the demise of the Democratic Party

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You don't have to be a seasoned political operative to question the logic behind Democrats investing so much money into a congressional district that has gone Republican for nearly 40 years, yet that is exactly what the Democratic Party did.

They believed they could switch moderate Republican voters to vote for a Democratic candidate and mobilize Independents by spouting a progressive message, which is philosophically antithetical to the values held by most voters -- such as limited government due to a fear of government encroachment and excessive regulation -- as well as utopian ideas about society, which many frankly believe are unrealistic.

Grand visions about the future are typically distrusted by most people regardless of their ideological leanings because people live in reality, and nothing in reality happens overnight. Most Americans want pragmatism that builds toward a better tomorrow, rather than grandiose promises built on unproven ideas.
 
Maybe the intent of progressive Democrats is good. Maybe it isn't. However, what is most concerning about progressive ideology is that it maintains the belief that ultimate good comes from a centrally planned state or in essence the government. Similar to socialism, progressivism advocates for a government built on compulsory force.
Jeebus fuck...did they ask roger ailes to personally write that shit?

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #401
A fresher and hotter fresh hot take: At The Edge Of The Abyss, Democrats Need A New Strategy

tl;dr: less TV, more Facebook

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #402

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #403
It's great how every actually possible outcome would've involved a president previously or currently under FBI investigation lololol America.

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #405
Well, that sure was a depressing read that brought back a flood of memories of shitty comments made by various people throughout my life who apparently need me to respect their values of thinking people like me are lesser than.


  • ksen
Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #407
Interview with Paul Ryan challenger Randy Bryce

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Jeff Stein
What do people in your district say about Ryan?

Randy Bryce
That he's not around. He doesn't do anything for us. He doesn't listen to us. The whole thing with health care is that people are just fed up. He says it's a health care bill, but it's not -- it's a tax break.

The Senate bill? It's a really cruel thing. It's a really cruel way to deal with people you represent.

I want to say to him, "Let's swap places." I would love to see you walk on a beam a couple hundred feet in the air carrying tools that weigh 150 pounds. Working iron isn't lifting weights in those posing shots with dumbbells. That's not working iron as far as I'm concerned.

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Jeff Stein
I know you were at a Bernie delegate at the 2016 convention. Would you call yourself a "democratic socialist" like he did? A lot of the things you're saying are compatible with those ideas.

Randy Bryce
The only label I take on is as an advocate for working people. Once you accept a label, you're boxed in. What has socialism brought us? You have parks, the ability to use flush toilets, which are kind of useful. But to say that it couldn't have happened without socialists -- who knows? I just know the issues I care about are what people in my neighborhood are worried about.

:rofl:

I love this guy.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #408
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-democrats-problem-is-not-the-economy-stupid/2017/06/29/50fb7988-5d07-11e7-9fc6-c7ef4bc58d13_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.15ae2f9f2086
"Democrats need a strong, bold, sharp-edged and common-sense economic agenda."

Right. And Conan the Barbarian needs a strong, bold, sharp-edged and common-sense broadsword.

Han Solo needs a strong, bold, sharp-edged and common-sense blaster by his side.


Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #409
Interview with Paul Ryan challenger Randy Bryce

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Jeff Stein
What do people in your district say about Ryan?

Randy Bryce
That he's not around. He doesn't do anything for us. He doesn't listen to us. The whole thing with health care is that people are just fed up. He says it's a health care bill, but it's not -- it's a tax break.

The Senate bill? It's a really cruel thing. It's a really cruel way to deal with people you represent.

I want to say to him, "Let's swap places." I would love to see you walk on a beam a couple hundred feet in the air carrying tools that weigh 150 pounds. Working iron isn't lifting weights in those posing shots with dumbbells. That's not working iron as far as I'm concerned.

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Jeff Stein
I know you were at a Bernie delegate at the 2016 convention. Would you call yourself a "democratic socialist" like he did? A lot of the things you're saying are compatible with those ideas.

Randy Bryce
The only label I take on is as an advocate for working people. Once you accept a label, you're boxed in. What has socialism brought us? You have parks, the ability to use flush toilets, which are kind of useful. But to say that it couldn't have happened without socialists -- who knows? I just know the issues I care about are what people in my neighborhood are worried about.

:rofl:

I love this guy.
i want to move to wisconsin so i can vote for him


Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #411
Is that a joke?
Love is like a magic penny
 if you hold it tight you won't have any
if you give it away you'll have so many
they'll be rolling all over the floor

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #412
"She persisted, we resisted".

If I hadn't read the article, I'd have said that was the Republican Party slogan for 2018.

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #414
"I take all knowledge to be my province."
-Sir Francis Bacon

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #415
why?  sixty something million people voted for her.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #416
yeah honestly not really seeing the big deal.

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #417
She's polarizing, and there are still a lot of morons out there who, although they think trump is  disaster, would still vote for him (again) over Clinton. 

I don't like the idea of basing politics on the opinions of idiots so much, but they seem to have numbers on their side....

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #418
no they don't

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #419
there are specific contexts in which she wouldn't be an effective mobilizer but that's hardly a reason for a general aversion to her being active.

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #420
It's great how every actually possible outcome would've involved a president previously or currently under FBI investigation lololol America.

Not Gary or Jill.

Yeah, yeah, you said "actually possible".

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #421
The Democrats Are Stealing Papa John's Slogan For 2018

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"A member of Congress told me Democrats big 2018 slogan, which is set to be released Monday. It's: 'Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages'" tweeted Vox congressional reporter Jeff Stein on Thursday. He later deleted that tweet and corrected it by noting the full slogan was actually "A Better Deal: Better Skills, Better Jobs, Better Wages."

good god

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #422
politics is a dumpster fire. smash capital.
"Marx and myself, one has fought harder all one's life long against the alleged Socialists than against anyone else"

-Engels

Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #423
That's like an ad for Coursera.

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Re: Rebuilding the Democrat Party
Reply #424
"a better deal" would be fine on its own, I think. 

the list of "better jobs" etc. can be bullet points for when they expand on it.

yes, gunner.  I support bullet points.