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Messages - BenTheBiased

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Oh, so some of your favorite bands have Jews in them so you can't be antisemitic, right? Classic antisemitic argument!
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Are there any fundamental reasons why anybody in the United States should have to buy any  manufactured product from any other country?    I really cannot think of any.
Should the US put in place policy to compel Americans to buy American when the product is inferior or costs significantly more?
In some cases, probably.
No. But we should set up policy and tax structure so as to incentivize domestic competition.  Wouldn't it be great  if instead of having "the big three" auto makers, we had "the big 20"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4sxxoJGkA

ETA: Possible national anthem for Davetopia?
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Have there been any past discussions with Dave about cost benefit analyses? I feel like there have, but I can't remember them. You'd think he'd have come across them in the business world too, but I really have trouble imagining him grasping even the basic concept, since it takes it for granted that not every proposition is either the world-savingest best thing ever or the world-killingest worst thing ever.
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Are there any fundamental reasons why anybody in the United States should have to buy any  manufactured product from any other country?    I really cannot think of any.
Should the US put in place policy to compel Americans to buy American when the product is inferior or costs significantly more?
In some cases, probably.
Which translates to Hawkins as "In all cases, definitely."
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Here you go, Dave. Simple explanation of the benefits of international trade from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce...

https://www.uschamber.com/international/international-policy/benefits-international-trade-0

(Even simpler version: pretty much the same benefits as any other form of trade, just on a larger scale.)
I want to hear YOUR explanation in your own words
It's in the post you quoted dude
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
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Here you go, Dave. Simple explanation of the benefits of international trade from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce...

https://www.uschamber.com/international/international-policy/benefits-international-trade-0

(Even simpler version: pretty much the same benefits as any other form of trade, just on a larger scale.)
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But don't you see? That's how Dave knows he's right to agree with them! If too many people took them seriously, he'd know that they were "mainstream," and therefore wrong. (Unless he agreed with them, in which case he would use the fact that so many people take them seriously as proof that he's right to agree with them.)
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So let me see...
Would that that were possible!
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The only thing that sunk into  your brains of that long post I made with quite a bit of supporting research was  that Reuters might have been wrong about this months abstention by China being the first abstention of the entire Syrian Civil War?
It STILL has not sunk into YOUR brain that Reuters

did NOT say anything about this month's abstention by China being the first abstention of the entire Syrian Civil War?

That's...
                                                                                        amazing.
This may be the worst he's ever been with that all/some/none problem. He seems to be literally incapable of distinguishing between "vetoed six resolutions" and "vetoed all resolutions."
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That just shows how little we all know about it. The longer you study something, the more brainwashed by the MSM you are. All Dave has to do is google for a few minutes, find out what the MSM says, and believe the opposite of that (or, even more easily, find out what conservative media tells him to believe, and believe that), and he's instantly running circles around so-called experts.

ETA: Note, in any cases where Dave agrees with the MSM, or in cases where he has studied something for a long time, the exact opposite of the above is automatically true.
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Aaaaaaand he's out.

I suppose that, to actually believe that someone acting and talking like Trump, wrote "The Art of the Deal", you have to have serious reading comprehension issues yourself.
He pooh-pooh'ed the 'ghost writer - maybe he thinks 'ghost writer' means Trump literally dictated the book and let the menial writer 'clean it up'. Lol!
As dumb as he's been lately, I honestly wouldn't be all that surprised to find out that he thought it meant an actual ghost wrote it.
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Also still waiting for that explanation of how the implementation of any even slightly socialist policy will inevitably lead directly to Stalinism. TIA.

ETA: I suspect Dave has trouble understanding this question due to his all/some/none difficulties. I can see him thinking "What do you mean 'lead to Stalinism'? Slightly socialist policy = Stalinism!"
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He has really outdone himself in terms of both idiocy and moral bankruptcy. I'd doubt he could get any worse, but if there's anything this little exchange (which happened after I noted how the 7th Law continues to hold true) has proven, it's that the 7th Law is utterly infallible.

"Afdave's Seventh Law: No matter how transparently pathetic or retarded any of Dave's claims may be they can always be followed by something even more pathetic and retarded."

(Though I wonder if "despicable" should be added to "pathetic and retarded.")
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Dave, so far in this discussion, your opposition has provided reasoned arguments backed up with evidence. You have provided nothing but repetition of empty assertions. Does that give you any pause at all? Any self-analysis going on in there? Or are you just going to continue repeating your empty slogans and tricking only yourself into thinking that somehow means you're running circles around everyone?
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I dare say that I am more interested in feeding hungry children than ANY of you people are.

But I'm not going to do it by stealing YOUR tax dollars. I'm going to do it with MY money.  And it won't be handouts. It will be help of the "teach a man to fish" variety.


What is a government for David?

Seeious question.

One sentence answer.

Ready. Set. Go.
Great question. One which we should all re-examine I think.  I can't come up with a one sentence answer right now, but I can tell you for sure that government is not supposed to be making direct payments to individuals.  If our founders knew that we were doing this, they would turn over in their graves.

So basically what you are saying is that you have no idea what the function of government is.

Why am I not surprised.

Bump

So, David, what is the function of government?
Maintain law and order. Punish evildoers. Provide for roads. Coin money. Provide for common defense.

To name a few.
Why should the government give people roads? Why isn't it better for the government to enable people to build their own roads?
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So giving a person who is trying to get a job, or who is incapacitated by illness, a modest amount of help, is just like indulging a spoilt 2-year old? Even though through receiving that help that person may well go on to become a productive member of society?

Jesus weeps, Dave. He looks down on you and weeps.
I am probably doing more to help poor people and disabled people than you are. So I am all for it. As long as it is done by private citizens. Commissioning government to do it only leads to tyranny.  Maybe if I keep saying this every day for the next year or so it will sink in.
Protip: If you want your assertions to sink in, supporting them with arguments and evidence works better than simply repeating them like a parrot.
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Don't get me wrong, dave. I'm sure the "deal" Trump struck with Xi would be beneficial for "the little guy" in the long run.

Provided that little guy lives in China. ;)
I see.  So you didn't read the news.  Remind me again why I ever bother to engage you?
What news are you talking about? The news I read said that Trump offered China a trade deal that would be beneficial to China if they help control North Korea! Nothing about a deal favorable to "the little guy" in America.
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Giving money, giving food ... same diff ...  both are good if done by private individuals or entities. Both are bad if done by government.
Why? And in anticipation of the "leads to tyranny" response, how? And how do private entities manage to avoid whatever "tyranny" mechanism is apparently triggered when the government does it? A person who depends on a private entity is no more autonomous than one who depends on the government.

But even better then either government or private entities giving money or food is for private entities and the government to enable the poor to feed themselves.
How? And why can't that include giving them enough money/food that they no longer need to worry about starving or finding a place to sleep? Surely someone who doesn't have to worry about those things is much more enabled than someone who does!
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Buying food for its citizens with tax dollars is not a proper function of government.

Making deals with heads of state on golf courses IS a proper function of government.

The former doesn't solve any fundamental problems in our country. The latter has great potential to solve future problems in our country. 
So Dave Hawkins frankly admits that he believes the "proper function of government" is not to protect its most vulnerable citizens, who need it the most, but to fund the entertainment of its most powerful, who need it the least.

I have to say as sick to my stomach as that sentiment makes me, it is at least refreshing to see you admit so frankly what a disgusting, morally bankrupt, pathetic excuse for a human being you actually are.
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Of all the AFDave laws, the 7th is the only one that I can never keep from thinking, in the back of my mind, surely there must come a day when it stops being true. How can he possibly keep finding ways to get stupider? And yet, somehow, he always does. It's like his entire life is an asymptotic approach to infinite stupid.
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Also, note the immediate jump from "need...to be healthy" to simply "essential" (presumably for being alive, not necessarily sufficient for being healthy).
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This reminds me of people that say that humans need salad and vegetables to be healthy. (Which is most people)

No understanding of biology.

SMH
Most people say cyanide shouldn't be a big part of your diet...
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Remarkable
It really is. I never cease to be amazed at the new depths of stupidity you constantly manage to reach, all while convincing yourself (or at least projecting the appearance of having convinced yourself) that it's actually everyone except you who's stupid. It truly is remarkable for someone to be that out of touch with reality.
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Your goats are conditioned, and not in a good way, Dave. And if they are so docile and don't move much, you could leave them out all day.
The fact that they apparently do nothing but eat when they get let out of goat prison suggests to me that they aren't getting enough to eat in goat prison.
I suggest enrolling in "Herbivores 101"
As many people have pointed out to you before, "herbivores" represents a wide variety of animals with a wide variety of eating habits. That you think there would be some class called "Herbivores 101" that would tell you all you need to know about the eating habits of goats and all other herbivores shows how little you understand the subject.