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I was never too sure that Humber was not just winding us up all the time.
It was certainly entertaining- come back, Humber! 

I was never sure either, which is why I characterize him as "crank or troll". It was a bit hard to believe that he could be so consistently wrong about every subject by accident.
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You have to admit Humber was far more interesting and intelligent than our current pres. Strange times indeed.

I certainly wouldn't admit that.  Both of them are extremely interesting in a train-wreck sense.  And both are unbelievably stupid.  Although I think humber might edge Trump out on this count.
As to which is stupider, Trump or Humber, I'm not sure which I would pick. They seem to share a lot of personality traits though. Both seem to think that they know more about whatever topic comes up than people who actually understand it; both are incapable of admitting they are wrong (and both are wrong very frequently). Humber probably gets the nod for creativity (at least when it comes to insults and lies).

I hate to admit it, but Humber was largely responsible for me following and participating in the DDWFTW threads for all these years. More times than I like to admit, he had me staying up late because "someone on the internet is wrong". He was certainly the most entertaining crank or troll I ever encountered, though he started to slip a bit in the later years.
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Science / Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
So you guys found another denier? Wonder what Humber is up to these days? And will RR finally do his long promised test runs of his latest cart this fall?

To show how naive I was I actually believed at some point Humber and the 2 others who's names I've forgotten..Harold something and the later guy...would finally get it after I posted that letter from the guy in charge of the AP test saying none of the teachers had challenged question 11 on that test in 2014, How could they all miss the difference gearing could make? Never understood that one.

Oh well, we now live in a 'post reality' world and maybe Humber was a prophet preparing us for Trump. Such is life..

He wasn't a denier, exactly (he accepted that ddwfttw works), but he was convinced that spork (and just about everyone else in the conversation) were explaining it incorrectly (and it was obvious from this thread and another that he participated in that he had no clue what he was talking about).
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Science / Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
Oh for anyone who isn't up to speed on this (wasn't myself until just now):

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Electric_Universe

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EU figureheads Wallace Thornhill and David Talbott are staunch supporters of Velikovsky's mythological-based fairy tales and often pay tribute to the enormous influence he has had on shaping their own far-fetched theories.

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The Electric Universe, Wallace Thornhill's website
Thunderbolts Forum, probably the most popular EU advocate website, run by David Talbott
Thornhill says Thunderbox.disinfo is his sister site.
I can confidently tell you that we do not use "Electric Universe" theory to guide exploratory spacecraft through our solar system.  Gravity theory seems all that's needed.

Most Electric Universe advocates have math skills that seem to top out somewhere between long division and linear algebra (or less).
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Science / Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
Hang on, the people who run that site seriously think Velikovsky has credibility? WTF?

I'm tellin' ya - perfect impedance match.  He's found his people.

I think you're right. BTW, I have frequently seen the thunderbolts forum referred to as the thunderdolts forum. Based on the two threads that he has participated in here, I think our friend will fit right in over there.
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Poor Jim didn't realize that arguing against a phase diagram was going to be a hilarious fail.

I saw no evidence that he understood the basics of phase relations, e.g. that boiling point varies with ambient pressure. He seemed to think that 100 C was the boiling point of water regardless of pressure. He certainly didn't understand that the gas phase can exist at less than the boiling point.

It would have been interesting to have him boil potatoes at my house (8400 feet above sea level) and see what kind of creative explanations he would come up with to explain why it takes them so much longer to cook than it would at sea level.
Wow, that's up there.  Looked at your profile (Central City, CO) and didn't realize there were towns that high in the Rockies.

Looking at Google Maps, it looks like an old mining town turned into Casino destination with tailings piles all over.  Is this gold/silver country?  Or some other gems or rare earth deposit?
Poor Jim didn't realize that arguing against a phase diagram was going to be a hilarious fail.

I saw no evidence that he understood the basics of phase relations, e.g. that boiling point varies with ambient pressure. He seemed to think that 100 C was the boiling point of water regardless of pressure. He certainly didn't understand that the gas phase can exist at less than the boiling point.

It would have been interesting to have him boil potatoes at my house (8400 feet above sea level) and see what kind of creative explanations he would come up with to explain why it takes them so much longer to cook than it would at sea level.
Wow, that's up there.  Looked at your profile (Central City, CO) and didn't realize there were towns that high in the Rockies.

Looking at Google Maps, it looks like an old mining town turned into Casino destination with tailings piles all over.  Is this gold/silver country?  Or some other gems or rare earth deposit?

Mostly gold. It was one of the first areas mined in the Colorado gold rush (1859). 8400 isn't that high. There's a couple towns in Colorado over 10,000, and lots of them 8000-9000.
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Since when did Ben Carson have a first class intellect? I mean ok he became a doctor, but he seems to have shut off the thinking circuits since then.

When I first saw Carson in a debate, I said, "Wow, this guys no brain surgeon.", but then I found out he is a brain surgeon. Go figure.
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Poor Jim didn't realize that arguing against a phase diagram was going to be a hilarious fail.

I saw no evidence that he understood the basics of phase relations, e.g. that boiling point varies with ambient pressure. He seemed to think that 100 C was the boiling point of water regardless of pressure. He certainly didn't understand that the gas phase can exist at less than the boiling point.

It would have been interesting to have him boil potatoes at my house (8400 feet above sea level) and see what kind of creative explanations he would come up with to explain why it takes them so much longer to cook than it would at sea level.
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Can we start here?



Your point?

You don't have a clue what anything on that phase diagram means, do you?
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Science / Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
The real question is how can a million tons of water float in the sky?

You can't explain it.
Believers never stop believing.

It's easy to explain.  Electricity.  Electrons enter our atmosphere constantly from above.  It's called the solar wind.  We also know it as static electricity.  H2O microdroplets have a positively charged external shell (related to surface tension).  Water microdroplets rise to balance out these charges.

It's simple physics.

BTW, this was first theorized by Velikovsky in 1946:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16597#p118190



Wow. He's citing Velikovsky, and he thinks everyone else is ignorant about science.
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Science / Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
This forum is the refuge of trolls and idiots.
Every forum of which you are a member is a refuge of at least one idiot troll.  Mathematically provable.


No intelligent person is going to stay here very long.



I guess that's why  you're hanging around.