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Do you realize that you are an idiot? Bobcats are a fantastic use of our limited fossil fuel resources first and foremost because they can be used for building water catchments which help the planet immensely. Secondarily they enable people to "recolonize the land" as I am doing.
And they are another one of the many things missing from Dave's distopia.

Hey, someone had to say it.

(And, Dave, we know you can't comprehend why. That doesn't affect reality.)
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Trump Is So Dense Angela Merkel Had To Explain The 'Fundamentals' Of EU Trade To Him -- 11 TIMES

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According to The Times of London, during their meeting last month, German Chancellor Angela Merkel had to explain to Trump that Germany can't negotiate a trade deal on their own and had to instead go through the EU - almost a dozen times.

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Ten times Trump asked [German chancellor Angela Merkel] if he could negotiate a trade deal with Germany. Every time she replied, 'You can't do a trade deal with Germany, only the EU,'" the official said.

They continued: "On the eleventh refusal, Trump finally got the message, 'Oh, we'll do a deal with Europe then.'

That's right. She had to tell him eleven times before the message finally sunk into his thick orange-tinged skull. ELEVEN! Let that sink in for a minute. Grade school children comprehend these simple concepts better than the damn president
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The main ongoing expense in the hair sheep business is land lease. The Hoppings reported lamb sales this past Feb at $150 per head wholesale at the sale barn ... no marketing effort at all which is a big deal ... these were lambs that were born in April of 2016.  They also sell quite a few breeding ewe lambs each year for about $230 each last I checked. They wean an average of 1.5 lambs per ewe each year so I think their revenue per ewe is north of $250. Land leases are typically $20 per acre so the $200 net per ewe is fairly conservative I think.
This sounds like a detour from the subdivision idea. Is it?
You really do not read my posts do you?   Setting up regenerative agriculture on the land is the first step for me toward starting a "sustainable subdivision."
so, these subdivisions will include sheep? Every one acre gets its own hair sheep?
Lol

You get kudos for trying to keep up. Its hard with all the spam.

Step 1:  Set up a regenerative agriculture system with animals. My first choice would be sheep to start off with.  

Step 2: If it works well and is profitable for myself and for the investors then we start having serious conversations about housing, infrastructure, and common areas.
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Correct

           [citation needed]
You don't need citations.  You need a new attitude.  I've given you citations in the past from experts who are in a position to know and you dismiss them based on God knows what ... your superior intelligence I guess.
No, Davietie-dipshit, you have not given any citations on benefits of opening up a forest canopy. It's just another of your bullshit fantasies.

You did give ONE citation to a study in which opening the canopy increased yield of a cacao plantation.  Which does not generalize to any forest in any situation.

And which appears to be contradicted by Cacao Cultivation under Diverse Shade Tree Cover Allows High Carbon Storage and Sequestration without Yield Losses:

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One of the main drivers of tropical forest loss is their conversion to oil palm, soy or cacao plantations with low biodiversity and greatly reduced carbon storage. Southeast Asian cacao plantations are often established under shade tree cover, but are later converted to non-shaded monocultures to avoid resource competition. We compared three co-occurring cacao cultivation systems (3 replicate stands each) with different shade intensity (non-shaded monoculture, cacao with the legume Gliricidia sepium shade trees, and cacao with several shade tree species) in Sulawesi (Indonesia) with respect to above- and belowground biomass and productivity, and cacao bean yield. Total biomass C stocks (above- and belowground) increased fivefold from the monoculture to the multi-shade tree system (from 11 to 57 Mg ha-1), total net primary production rose twofold (from 9 to 18 Mg C ha-1 yr-1). This increase was associated with a 6fold increase in aboveground biomass, but only a 3.5fold increase in root biomass, indicating a clear shift in C allocation to aboveground tree organs with increasing shade for both cacao and shade trees. Despite a canopy cover increase from 50 to 93%, cacao bean yield remained invariant across the systems (variation: 1.1-1.2 Mg C ha-1 yr-1). The monocultures had a twice as rapid leaf turnover suggesting that shading reduces the exposure of cacao to atmospheric drought, probably resulting in greater leaf longevity. Thus, contrary to general belief, cacao bean yield does not necessarily decrease under shading which seems to reduce physical stress. If planned properly, cacao plantations under a shade tree cover allow combining high yield with benefits for carbon sequestration and storage, production system stability under stress, and higher levels of animal and plant diversity.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Trump boots second government employee from current post after Breitbart attacks them by name

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Nowrouzzadeh came under fire from the Breitbartites for her Iranian-American ethnicity, for her role helping to craft the Iranian nuclear deal, and for the usual "alt-right" racist drivel supposing that her college-aged work as an intern for an Iranian-American group was truly a front for blah blah burpfart blah. (The pattern of targeting individual Americans for conspiracy-laden smearing will be familiar to any watcher of the far-right, from 12-year old S-chip recipients to charity workers to career civil servants.)

While career government officials are in theory protected from being fired in partisan purges, they aren't protected from being reassigned out of their jobs and into others. This is the second time Breitbart conspiracy-laden attacks on named government officials have immediately preceded the Trump administration doing just that; you could forgive a person for coming to the obvious conclusion that the critters scurrying around the current office are purging government offices based on the conspiracy theories they read on far-right websites. We know, after all, that Donald Trump is prone to believing anything he reads on Twitter.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
Your president is unhinged:

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83
Did he really do this?

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AP: Do you feel like that's one thing that you've changed, that you maybe are actually asking the direct questions about some of these things?
TRUMP: Yeah. Let me give me an example. A little before I took office there was a terrible article about the F-35 fighter jet. It was hundreds of billions of dollars over budget. It was seven years behind schedule. It was a disaster. So I called in Lockheed and I said, "I'm sorry, we're going to have to bid this out to another company, namely Boeing," or whoever else. But Boeing. And I called in Boeing and I started getting competing offers back and forth. ...
TRUMP: I saved $725 million on the 90 planes. Just 90. Now there are 3,000 planes that are going to be ordered. On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than that, but it's $725 million. Gen. Mattis, who had to sign the deal when it came to his office, said, "I've never seen anything like this in my life." We went from a company that wanted more money for the planes to a company that cut. And the reason they cut -- same planes, same everything -- was because of me. I mean, because that's what I do.

Because that is revolutionary.  He really isn't beholden to anybody, he isn't worried about how much money people might give or withhold from his war chest.  But he does seem to not like getting ripped off by a defense contract.

How is that unhinged?
Because it's a fantasy. He didn't get the price reduced.  How Trump got credit for slashing price of fighter jet when he didn't, Trump's claims of saving millions on F-35 jet untrue, says armed services committee Dem, F-35 Cost Cuts Had Little To Do With President Trump.
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Another Republican head rolls.

Former district judge charged with human trafficking

From Juanita Jean's beauty salon

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The Child Sex Trafficker
April 23, 2017 By: El Jefe

Remember the nonsensical story about Hillary running a child sex trafficking operation at the back of a pizza joint in DC?  Remember the nut job who believed it and came in shooting an AR-15?  Remember all that?  Well.  The story is actually true, but it's not Hillary, it's not in a pizza joint and it's not in DC.  It's actually in Campbell County Kentucky and the trafficker is Tim Nolan, a high profile Republican who is closely associated with the Tea Party, the KKK, and was Campbell Country chair of the Trump campaign.  During the delegate battle in Kentucky, he challenged Mitch McConnell for control of the state delegation.  He serves (at least for now) on Campbell County's school board.
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and the Trump administration seems unaware of the possibility that the US could lose ground by making changes.
But he can't lose, he's such a great negotiator. He'll wave his dick and Canada will cave.
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If so, what do you think happens to US export deals if the US bans imports?
Who said anything about banning imports? I'm not in favor of banning imports. But I am in favor of tariffs so as to protect our own industry.  The United States federal government was financed for most of our history with tariffs  if I recall correctly.

Dave, try to focus.  You set out some kind of principle that it was stupid for countries to import stuff from other countries instead of making it themselves.  If that is some kind of principle, then both exports and imports, in your view, should be minimised, whether by bans or tariffs, right?

That might - possibly - work for very large countries, which are large enough to have enough resources, and a large enough internal market, to be self-sufficient.  But it won't work for countries that aren't.  They need to import and export.

Right? So your principle only applies to very large countries, right?

Or wrong?

And if right, what do you think will happen to US exports if the US raises much larger tariffs on imports?  You think other countries will just suck it up?  Countries that rely on exports and imports?  On trade?
"Try to focus"

Lol

Says the woman who can't focus.

Right if we are talking about things like cars.  I cannot imagine the country of Guyana in South America developing their own domestic auto industry.  I'm not making any blanket statements here ... I just find it odd that a large county like the USA should have to buy cars from Japan.  Why aren't we good enough and smart enough to build our own?
We are.  But we need lots of imported materials to do so.

However, the free market has determined that there's a place for imported cars and cars made in the US by foreign companies.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
House Oversight Committee calls on Trump's business to prove he's not violating the Constitution

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During the January 11 news conference, Dillon said that Trump's plan to circumvent the constitutional problem posed by deals of that sort is "to voluntarily donate all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotel to the United States Treasury."

But as of March 17, the Trump Organization hadn't donated any foreign profits, according to USA Today.

"The Trump Organization now says it plans to make the donation after the end of the calendar year," USA Today reported, but Trump's business "would not provide a copy of the policy or otherwise explain how Trump hotels and similar businesses will separate profits from foreign governments' rentals of rooms and suites, conference rooms and banquet facilities, or payments for other services at its hotels, and deliver the money to the Treasury as the president and his lawyers spelled out in a nationally televised January news conference."
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(we are resource rich)
Well, yes and no.  A lot of critical stuff for today's cars and other products. comes from other countries.  Nickel from Canada.  Rare earths from China. We have bauxite but not enough to satisfy our needs; Australia, South America, and Africa have gobs. China, Russia, Portugal, Austria, and Bolivia give us tungsten. China, Russia, South Africa, Tajikistan, and Bolivia give us antimony.

Modern civilization requires many more different resources than your 14th century distopia.
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But people have been engaging in trade for many thousands of years, to the great benefit of civilisation.
What benefits?  I'm sure there are some, but I'd like to hear which things you think are benefits due to international trade (because it IS international trade you are advocating here).
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. Duh.

Follow the money.

The main reason is money.  If you choke off international trade Walmart's prices skyrocket, along with everyone else's. 

Also some things are just not available in the US, and some things are done better overseas.

But the main reason is economics.
price is actually a terrible argument. It assumes a materialism worldview.
Capitalist companies tend to have a materialistic worldview.
sure, but it isn't a good argument for policy unless you accept that consumption is always the best outcome.
I.m not talking about policy, I'm talking about the reasons things are as they are.
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But people have been engaging in trade for many thousands of years, to the great benefit of civilisation.
What benefits?  I'm sure there are some, but I'd like to hear which things you think are benefits due to international trade (because it IS international trade you are advocating here).
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. Duh.

Follow the money.

The main reason is money.  If you choke off international trade Walmart's prices skyrocket, along with everyone else's. 

Also some things are just not available in the US, and some things are done better overseas.

But the main reason is economics.
price is actually a terrible argument. It assumes a materialism worldview.
Capitalist companies tend to have a materialistic worldview.
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You're not going to "teach me economics" because you don't understand economics. 
Fun thing, Dave.

I do.
Great.  Teach me something then if you can.
You obviously can't learn.  But here it is again:

Are there any fundamental reasons why anybody in the United States should have to buy any  manufactured product from any other country?    I really cannot think of any.
You really can't think at all.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Products are made in other countries mostly because of the cost of labor. If they were made in this country the manufacturers would have to charge significantly more for their product. Even after shipping and import costs. Companies that are still manufacturing in the US are doing it with automation, not workers.

Trump's not bringing back any significant number of manufacturing jobs.  The economics aren't there.
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Here you go, Dave. Simple explanation of the benefits of international trade from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce...

https://www.uschamber.com/international/international-policy/benefits-international-trade-0

(Even simpler version: pretty much the same benefits as any other form of trade, just on a larger scale.)
I want to hear YOUR explanation in your own words
See my just previous messages. See Dave run away!!
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But people have been engaging in trade for many thousands of years, to the great benefit of civilisation.
What benefits?  I'm sure there are some, but I'd like to hear which things you think are benefits due to international trade (because it IS international trade you are advocating here).
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. Duh.

Follow the money.

The main reason is money.  If you choke off international trade Walmart's prices skyrocket, along with everyone else's. 

Also some things are just not available in the US, and some things are done better overseas.

But the main reason is economics.
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Are there any fundamental reasons why anybody in the United States should have to buy any  manufactured product from any other country?    I really cannot think of any.
You really can't think at all.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Products are made in other countries mostly because of the cost of labor. If they were made in this country the manufacturers would have to charge significantly more for their product. Even after shipping and import costs. Companies that are still manufacturing in the US are doing it with automation, not workers.

Trump's not bringing back any significant number of manufacturing jobs.  The economics aren't there.
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"Isolationist" ... "Globalist"

It all depends on what you mean  by these terms.
"Globalist" means "Jew". I just found that out.
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Not sure where this should go:

"BILL O'REILLY IS A CENTRIST" IS THE KIND OF RESULT YOU GET WHEN RIGHT-WINGERS DO SCIENCE

{link does not go to Breitbart)

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Exclusive: Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 U.S. election - documents

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By Ned Parker, Jonathan Landay and John Walcott | WASHINGTON
A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters' faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

They described two confidential documents from the think tank as providing the framework and rationale for what U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded was an intensive effort by Russia to interfere with the Nov. 8 election. U.S. intelligence officials acquired the documents, which were prepared by the Moscow-based Russian Institute for Strategic Studies [en.riss.ru/], after the election.