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Because Constantine won the Battle of the Milvian Bridge through the power of hugging.
Freedom of worship was not secured by Constantine. Sorry try again.
So who was is secured by?
Jesus and his disciples.
::)
 
What a remarkably dumb thing to write.
I told you, Bluffy is on a holy hyperbole high for Sunday.
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Yes I know it's not the same. Bill and Monica was orders of magnitude worse.

Why?

Abuse of power. Massive power so it's massive abuse.

It's quite apparent that you haven't understood a word of what any of us have been saying. What do you think the power dynamic was between the Masaai man and the girl he married?

Monica had a choice, Almost everyone in her country would have baked her up if she said 'no' at any point. That is power.

The Masaai girl, on the other hand... what choices did she have if she said no?

I'll remind you of the Masaai woman politician who did escape child marriage by saying 'no'. She ran away from home every time her family tried to coerce her into it. She was able to get her grandfather to intervene and let her go to school. She says she was lucky. Other girls didn't get that same support.
Personally, I wouldn't bake her  :grin:
Quite right old boy, the young ones are too tender to bake.

Unless we're talking about 420, then baking might help her with any anxiety she might be having.
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If an arson burns down a house it's a big deal.

If an arson burns down the White House it's a much bigger deal.

If someone drops a nuclear bomb on Washington DC it's much bigger still.

Size Matters.
None of which is eqiv to a consensual BJ at work.

If someone blows the President in the Oval Office it's no big deal.

Seriously, do you think nobody else has had sex in the Oval Office?
I like to daydream of either Dick and Pat or Ronnie and Nancy getting down and dirty on that big seal on the floor.
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That is one of the worst analogies I've seen from you yet.
There should be a law against Bluffy attempting analogies.
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If an arson burns down a house it's a big deal.

If an arson burns down the White House it's a much bigger deal.

If someone drops a nuclear bomb on Washington DC it's much bigger still.

Size Matters.
Are you suggesting that if the President get blown, it's a bigger deal than if, say, the Vice President gets blown?
And that getting blown in the White House is a bigger deal than in, say, the Watergate? Or on a white sandy beach of Hawaii.

I'm leaning more and more toward the "Bluffy is an InCel" theory.

Of course, burning down the White House itself is a big deal, it's an extremely important building, both functionally and historically. Plus it's be really hard for someone to burn it down, it's very sturdily built. And there's a lot of guards making sure people don't even get the possibility of a chance to try. But obviously, the White House is a more important structure than just any house.

As for nuking DC, yeah, that would mean the death of a lot of people and a major disruption of our national government. But, obviously, there's a big difference between burning down one house and nuking a major city that's the Capital of a major nation, likely killing a million or more people.  By the way, nuking a city is not simply a bigger form of arson. It would be either an act of terrorism or war.
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Yes I know it's not the same. Bill and Monica was orders of magnitude worse.

Why?

Abuse of power. Massive power so it's massive abuse.
Bad logic there Bluffy.

If the President is doing some honey-do work around the place and strips a screw, would it be a massive stripping of a screw?
If he gets a cold, will it be a massive cold?
Does he take massive shits? Would you need to get a massive bucket if he were to come visit you?

Would this also apply to if the President lies, they are automatically massive lies?

Again, as many have noted, including Lewinski herself, it was she that initiated the affair. She was the aggressor.

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No Dave, we're pointing out that the consensual relationship that Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky is not the same at all as an arranged relationship between with an underage girl and a man old enough to be her grandfather. There's nothing fake about this.
Actually, let's get it straight, at 75 and 15, grandpa is 5 times older than the bride. Say each of the generations before her took 16 years to birthing a child, her mother was 16 when she was born, he was 60, her grandmother was 32, her great grandmama was 48, her great great grandmama was 64 and her great great great grandmama was 80, He should have been involved with someone at least as old as her great grandmama and even she would have been 12 years his junior.
8
Photon's mad.
Yes, he's mad, but he's mad for the right reasons.

High octane gasoline, a clean windshield and a shoeshine!
9
Nope.
Dave has no fucking clue about Kepler or Brahe or how the three laws of planetary motion were obtained. He also has no fucking clue about Galileo or Newton's methodology. Dave has his fucked up narrative, and does not care to compare it to actual objective evidence. He's already decided, therefore what he believes is true. No need to go messing up a perfectly good fantasy with that pesky reality.

Dave's idiotic conspiracy theories all tie together into a nice fantastical narrative that all lead to YEC, he just can't rationally or logically explain how, and doesn't care that he can't.  He earned the bame Bluffy for a reason.

He should have folded long ago, but he's sitting there, holding his cards, thinking he's fooled the others, when everybody else quit playing with him years ago and have moved on to a new game entirely. But Dave still thinks he has a winning hand in the game that doesn't even fucking use cards any more.

He's so out of his depth, it would be pitiful, if he wasn't a colossal asshole all the time.
My edit of your "Dave's idiotic conspiracy theories all tie together into a nice fantastical narrative that all lead to YEC," is "Dave's idiotic conspiracy theories all tie together into a nice fantastical narrative that all stem from YEC,".

YEC first and foremost. All things follow from that premise, that assumption.
Since YEC is true, everything related to it is also true, certainly more often than not. And certainly more so than anything that refutes it or even challenges it. Anything that supports YEC is automatically true. Anything that does not is questionable if not outright wrong.
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Another thing that's always interesting to me about these types of discussions is the dichotomy between your stated worldview and you're stated moral outrage about this or that.

No one ever has serious discussions about age-appropriateness in mating of dogs or cats. And probably not with gorillas and baboons and chimpanzees. And your stated view is that we are very close to chimpanzees biologically.

Yet everyone's head explodes if a 70 year old Maasai guy marries a 15 year old.

Which is fine I guess. But the reason your head explodes is because you are borrowing from my worldview, not making a logical thought based on your own worldview.
Um, Bluffy, nobody's head has exploded.

You might want to put down your book, "Euphemisms for Dummies" for a while.

Also, your habit of characterizing everything to it's extreme possibility is really getting old.
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:facepalm:
Another roll of the "I got nuthin :o " die.
Um, no, Bluffy doesn't gamble, that involves risk, and since he knows everything, well more than anybody else, except maybe god, it's not gambling. No, Bluffy doesn't gamble. That's why he doesn't roll the dice. He's large and in charge with BIG BUTTONS, and specifically in this matter, the BIG BUTTON labeled "I gun nuttin :o".
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:facepalm:
Bluffy, just as your argument regarding researchers (Octohatters in Ivory Towers) toeing the line so they can be cool and get invited to those fabulous soirees, considering the line back then was to not upset apple carts, the highly probable result of doing so being charged as an heretic and suffering a lot of grief (possibly death or life imprisonment with torture) not to mention not being allowed to continue one's work, those great researchers of that time had a whole lot more incentive than some nice appetizers and moderately good wine and possibly some interesting conversation. Even if that new prof from Evo-Devo has been flirting with you and will be there. I here there's a hot-tub. Woo hoo!!
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In fact, it often takes such a long time that people collectively forget the bad agricultural practices that caused it, such as in the case of North Africa, so they make up sciency sounding fairy tales to explain what happened.
Oh brother ::)

Are you back to your Humans Created the Sahara idiocy?
I'm not "back" to it. I never left it because it's not idiocy. It's the truth.

Here's what the FAO has to say about it

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  The Sahara

There is historical evidence that at least once or probably twice a great part of the Sahara was populated under the Mandigan and Saharan Empire from about the year A.D. 320 to 680, and it is therefore clear that radical changes for the worse have taken place in the natural flora over great parts of the present Sahara within historic times. Records maintained over 500 years indicate that the Sahara desert has moved southward at the rate of one meter a year on a wide front of 3,000 kilometers. Lake Chad, which some decades ago was an ideal refuge for migrating birds from Europe, is steadily diminishing in surface area and depth, and the color of its shores is turning from green to brown.

There are records of explorers of the last century as well as from those of Roman days (Herodotus, Pliny) which provide proof of man's previous occupancy of very considerable parts of what is now absolute desert. But while some authorities say that the writings of ancient historians reflect nothing except the conditions existing in their own times, more recent explorations, as for instance that of Duveyrier (1864) in the western Sahara, record information on vegetation and on forests which have now practically disappeared. These records make clear that explanation of this disappearance does not lie in a radical change of climate (desiccation), but indicate that man alone is responsible.

In 1497, El Hadj Mohammoud, the Emperor of the Songhai dynasty, made a pilgrimage to Mecca from Gao in what is now Mali with a suite of 800 people and numerous horses and donkeys, crossing a region which at that time was occupied by people living in permanent villages, the remains of which are still discernible today. NOW the whole area is desert. Slowly but surely, the desert is on the march.

    

http://www.fao.org/docrep/e3200e/e3200e03.htm
YAY!!!!
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I am well aware that Donald Trump was fast and loose with women in his younger years. But he seems more honest than Bill Clinton and I suspect that women who slept with him understood the arrangement better than they ever did with Bill. Bill seems like a shyster who would trick women into thinking that he loved them in order to get them to sleep with him.
"seems"

"suspect"

"seems"

OK.

Seems suspect to me.
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Dave, are you an incel?
How dare you ask him that.
Such information is very personal and intimate.
16
Let's try talking about male sheep instead of male humans, shall we? Maybe you understand them?
You like male sheep?
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OMG Borealis... you have no understanding of men whatsoever.
Bluffoonic projection.
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Quote
pedophilia
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ped·o·phil·i·a
 (pĕd′ə-fĭl′ē-ə, pē′də-)n. The deriving of sexual gratification from sexual fantasies or acts involving a child.

ped′o·phil′i·ac (-ăk) adj. & n.
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pedophilia
(ˌpiːdəʊˈfɪlɪə)n (Psychiatry) a variant spelling (esp US) of paedophilia
Collins English Dictionary - Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
pe•do•phil•i•a
(ˌpi dəˈfɪl i ə)

n. sexual desire in an adult for a child.
[1905-10]
pe′do•phile` (-ˌfaɪl) n.
pe`do•phil′i•ac, adj., n.
pe`do•phil′ic, adj.
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
pedophilia
a sexual attraction to children. -- pedophiliac, pedophilic, adj.
See also: Children-Ologies & -Isms. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
I wonder how many definitions had to be discarded by Dave until he found one that he liked?

We don't know because he didn't cite it.
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
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"Medical texts explaining procedures ..."

1) Insert forceps into vagina
2) Grasp head of baby fetus with forceps
3) Grip scalpel loosely with free hand
4) ....
5) ....
Do you know what the standard name for the procedure you're failing to describe is?

Because as it is, you are continuing to fail at anatomy.

Told you. He has no clue. I'm sure he's been indoctrinated with the same set of misleading and/or outright false outrage-inducing gibberish as most anti-choice activists, so I suppose it isn't entirely his fault.
He chooses it.

It's his fault.
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"Medical texts explaining procedures ..."

1) Insert forceps into vagina
2) Grasp head of baby fetus with forceps
3) Grip scalpel loosely with free hand
4) ....
5) ....
Do you know what the standard name for the procedure you're failing to describe is?

Because as it is, you are continuing to fail at anatomy.
What doesn't Bluffy continue to fail at?
21
A lot of surgical procedures are "gruesome".
SFW?
Hell, I still can not look at the videos of the knee replacement surgeries I had a year or so ago. Just too gruesome.
22
Spare us the fake sensitivity Hawkins.
You advocate capital punishment.
You called for the execution of politicians you disagree with.
Not to mention the etymology of the phrase "heads rolling" is pretty gruesome.
23
Well Dave.
If I decide to cheat on my wife (and embarrass my kid) by bonking hookers,  will it make a huge difference whether I do it in my office or in a motel?
No. But you're not the president of the United States with the eyes of the entire world on you. 
What difference does that make?

Most of the world's leaders thought the whole bruhaha was hilarious.
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Well Dave.
If I decide to cheat on my wife (and embarrass my kid) by bonking hookers,  will it make a huge difference whether I do it in my office or in a motel?
I favor the torch on the Statue of Liberty.
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No it does not.
feel free to explain.
i don't need to explain anything.
You are the one making libelous assertions here.
It's up to you to justify them.
Or badger, as per usual.
if you are an abortion supporter then you are most likely okay with late-term abortions which means that you are good with killing babies.
I am not an abortion supporter. I do not advocate for abortion. At best, it's a personal matter of last resort. And, for the most part, none of my business.
However, I do support a woman's right, along with everyone else's right, to have virtually absolute control of their body. Regardless of what's growing inside of it or why or how that got started.
Would you be OK with the government meddling in your private personal affairs, to the point of making it illegal for you to use condoms, or to have a vasectomy? Or to have sex at all? Even with yourself?

Why do you think you should have that power over women? To decide their lives on a very critical matter.


BTW, your sky daddy kills lots more babies than all of humanity. He even kills animal babies. Plus rapes virgins. And murders little kids. And advocates genocide and slavery. And taking other people's lands. And approving of killing of other men so to get their foreskins so to qualify to marry the princess. Yeah, nice guy. And those are the parts that got reported. Just think of the stuff that was so horrific or disgusting it didn't get reported.