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Since it's possible that not every member of this site has Dave's mastery of Google-Fu (I leave the question of which Dave as an exercise for the reader): "Challenges for taxonomy" | Nature (PDF)
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Just for fun I Googled "nested hierarchy" ... sure didn't get much ...

Not much out of the "About 501,000 results" (including this and this and this) that you thought would enable you to continue your asinine flailing, you mean.
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Where does one go for the RWNJ take on this? Free Republic seems to be down.

The Tree of Liberty Committees of Correspondence is usually good for a few laughs.
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And also a "phobia", by definition, is the "irrational fear" of something.

As a stand-alone word, yes. However, as a noun-combining suffix, it can also mean "intolerance or aversion for." The argument made by so-called Islamophobes that "I ain't afraid of Islam/Muslims so I'm certainly not an Islamophobe" is inaccurate and/or disingenuous.

As for Greatest Iam, he's demonstrated repeatedly and unequivocally that he's simply a  turd. All else follows from that.
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. . . I would have been more precise in my wording

All that would have accomplished is you being more precisely wrong.
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Apparently altrightdotcom looks askance at Chapman/stickman for his wavering (and "worse") on the white supremacist front, but aren't willing to disavow him entirely. "Is Based Stick Man Not So Based?"

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So why would the "based" stick man cuck on race, making an empirically false claim and alienating a significant proportion of his supporters? Much has recently been revealed about Chapman's personal life after he was doxxed by antifa in an article by the anarchist website It's Going Down. Though allegedly having read Arthur Kemp's fashy two-volume history of the White race, March of the Titans, Chapman has a child with a woman of Asian descent, and it would make sense that advocating civic nationalism is about as far as he can go without alienating her or his progeny.

This poses a strange scenario for those in the Alt-Right, who just several days ago stood toe-to-toe against antifa at Trump rallies across the country. While I agree that it is disheartening to hear the man who ascended to a meme call for the rejection of White interests, we must nevertheless continue to move forward with our uneasy alliance in order to make progress on altering social policy. Ending sanctuary cities, birthright citizenship, and installing a national E-Verify system are just a handful of policies that we can work together with civic nationalists on, and if successful, would put us closer to securing a future for our people.
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Computers and Technology / Re: AI playing Go
There are video game records of at least three of the informal online games between Ke Jie and AlphaGo available. Out of the three, Ke Jie won two (though more were played, and I'm not sure what the final overall score was). If there are any Go players here who might be interested, below is the first, which was won by AlphaGo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrFUTqFGUk
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You just made my point for me, dumbass.  You just admitted that you assumed it became gaseous.

Would you like to make a retraction?

For the third time, do you have an explanation for sublimation that fits the observed phenomenon better than the standard explanation? It certainly looks like you don't.
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I appreciate threads like this because they help motivate me to learn something. I don't know what your qualifications are,


Do qualifications determine truth?

No, however, they do give statements within the field of qualification more weight than those coming from unqualified individuals.

You should consider "experts" with extreme scrutiny. They will often hide their greater ignorance.

I'll take that under advisement, and consider the source. I already know that I should use extreme scrutiny when considering the claims of unqualified individuals who purport to overturn established knowledge. I've found over the years that they fail to produce the goods, practically without exception. 

<snipped a pile of unsupported assertions badmouthing those who don't agree with jimmcginn>

Yet, there is zero empirical evidence of gaseous H2O.  Right.  Why the fuck do you think that is?

You've asserted that there's zero empirical evidence of gaseous H2O, yet practical applications based on the existence of gaseous H2O have been used successfully for years.

Guesswork has its place, but when a qualified scientist makes a definitive statement they're not using guesswork

How the fuck would you know?  They are just going to tell you what you want to hear.  If you aren't tough minded you will forever wallow in vagueness.

On many occasions I've actually checked the empirical evidence behind the statements of reputable scientists, and learned that they weren't lying.

It appears that you really believe there is no empirical evidence supporting things like psychrometric tables. It seems that they work in practice though, otherwise they would have been discarded long since.

[crickets]

Ignoring this doesn't make it go away.

As I understand your position, water vapor (gaseous H2O) cannot exist at normal atmospheric ambient temperatures. If that is the case can you explain how ice sublimates in subfreezing temperatures?

First, dumbass, tell me why you have assumed that sublimation/evaporation produces steam.  You can't.  You just believe it.

First, thanks for the gratuitous insult. I've noticed that when you resort to that tactic, it's an indication that a good question you don't like and can't answer has been asked. So here's another: What would be the product of sublimation, if not gaseous H2O?

Go ahead, dumbass, tell us why you made this assumption.  Nothing I did led you to that assumption.  So, tell us.  Go ahead.

Thanks again, jimmcginn. Since the sublimation of ice by definition takes place at subfreezing temperature, liquid water cannot be the product.

Why don't you ask a meteorologists to explain how they know evaporation/sublimation produces steam.  You will never get an answer.  That's because they don't really understand it.  But they aren't going to tell you that.

I don't require a meteorologist to explain this one, jimmcginn. I've personally observed sublimation of ice over a period of days during which at no time did the temperature rise above freezing. The ice decreased in volume, and since there was no chance that it had melted into water, the only remaining conclusion I can come to is that it underwent a phase transition directly to gaseous H2O.

You didn't actually answer my question, jimmcginn: Can you explain how ice sublimates in subfreezing temperatures?
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I appreciate threads like this because they help motivate me to learn something. I don't know what your qualifications are,


Do qualifications determine truth?

No, however, they do give statements within the field of qualification more weight than those coming from unqualified individuals.

jimmcginn, but I'd surmise that you don't have any credentials as an atmospheric scientist. Are you telling us that the qualified scientists have been lying about the relative weight of dry air vs moist air for at least decades, if not hundreds of years? I'm trying to understand why they would lie. Maybe you could tell me your theory about that.

They aren't lying.  They genuinely believe it or just want to believe so they don't look very hard. 

I could even ask you the same question.  Why did/do you believe it?  You can't answer this question yourself. What makes you think it's any different for them?

Having spent time studying other fields, I understand that in science generally, knowledge is based on empirical evidence. Guesswork has its place, but when a qualified scientist makes a definitive statement they're not using guesswork if they're being honest. It appears that you really believe there is no empirical evidence supporting things like psychrometric tables. It seems that they work in practice though, otherwise they would have been discarded long since.

As I understand your position, water vapor (gaseous H2O) cannot exist at normal atmospheric ambient temperatures. If that is the case can you explain how ice sublimates in subfreezing temperatures?
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I appreciate threads like this because they help motivate me to learn something. I don't know what your qualifications are, jimmcginn, but I'd surmise that you don't have any credentials as an atmospheric scientist. Are you telling us that the qualified scientists have been lying about the relative weight of dry air vs moist air for at least decades, if not hundreds of years? I'm trying to understand why they would lie. Maybe you could tell me your theory about that.

I do have a question. I think that you've asserted that water doesn't exist in the atmosphere as vapor, only as droplets, no matter how small (please correct me if I'm mistaken). If so, can you describe how you determined that to be the case? I ask because it appears that scientists would not dispute that water droplets in the atmosphere may make it more dense than dry air.

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Humid air containing water molecules as liquid - droplets - may be more dense than dry air or humid air containing water only as vapor.

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Did you even read this before you posted it?  Are you retarded? 

Are you changing your story now? You said that you "know for a fact" that there have never been any attempts to weigh dry air vs humid air. I quoted what appears to be such an attempt. It even appears to support your idea. It took me only a couple of minutes to find it, so it seems that your assertion was ignorant and baseless.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
It seems like the State Department is denying that the "travel privilege review" is being done by the US.

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A State Department official told the Daily News that there is no such U.S. State Department procedure for reviewing "travel privileges" and that anyone with a valid U.S. passport can enter and leave the U.S.

The official said that it is up to other countries, such as Canada, to admit U.S. citizens or not.

A request for comment to the Canadian Foreign Ministry was transferred to the country's border agency.
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So you're saying that you don't know of any attempts to weigh dry air vs humid air?

I know for a fact that it has never been done.

That's a rather sweeping statement. In a scientific periodical from the first part of the 19th century, following the results of experiments by Saussure and Gay-Lussac, we find the following:

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One hundred cubic inches of air, barom. 30, standing over water at 60° Fahr., consist of 100 cubic inches of dry air supporting a barometric pressure of 29.484 inches of mercury, and 100 cubic inches of vapour, sustaining a pressure of 0.516 of an inch of mercury. But 100 cubic inches dry air, under that pressure, weigh 29.9754 grains, and 100 cubic inches of vapour under its pressure weigh 0.3278 grains. The sum of 30.3032 is the weight of the hundred cubic inches of moist air, sustaining the total pressure of 30 inches of mercury.

The Quarterly Journal of Science, Literature, and the Arts (Volume 20) 1826

Of course these scientists of nearly 200 years ago may have been incorrect. As I said before, you could make a name for yourself by designing a rigorous experiment to show their error, but apparently you'd rather get on the internet and spew bile. Since that will get you nothing but ridicule, the obvious conclusion is that you desire to be ridiculed. I hope that you will be able to satisfy at least some of that desire here.
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James could make a name for himself by actually weighing dry air and moist air, and thereby demonstrating that his hypothesis is correct. Too much trouble, I guess.

If it has never been measured/tested/verified then its an open question.

Avogadro's Law is well understood.  The math indicates moist air is heavier.

You could make a name for yourself by disproving Avogadro.

James McGinn / Solving Tornadoes

So you're saying that you don't know of any attempts to weigh dry air vs humid air? If that's the case, have you made any effort to rectify your ignorance? Have you even considered designing an experiment that would confirm or falsify your hypothesis? If not, what's stopping you?

By the way, great job with the self-quoting. I hear it's an effective way to get your point across.
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James could make a name for himself by actually weighing dry air and moist air, and thereby demonstrating that his hypothesis is correct. Too much trouble, I guess.
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It seems to indicate a deep ocean hydrothermal vent bacterial biota.

"3.77-billion-year-old fossils stake new claim to oldest evidence of life" | Science

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These tubelike structures, formed of an iron ore called hematite, may be microfossils of 3.77-billion-year-old life at ancient hydrothermal vents.
Image Credit: Matthew Dodd


Life on Earth may have originated in the sunless depths of the ocean rather than shallow seas. In a new study, scientists studying 3.77-billion-year-old rocks have found tubelike fossils similar to structures found at hydrothermal vents, which host thriving biological communities. That would make them more than 300 million years older than the most ancient signs of life on Earth--fossilized microbial mats called stromatolites that grew in shallow seas. Other scientists are skeptical about the new claims.

"The authors offer a convincing set of observations that could signify life," says Kurt Konhauser, a geomicrobiologist at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada, who was not involved in the study. But "at present, I do not see a way in which we will definitively prove ancient life at 3.8 billion years ago."

[. . .]

Taken together, the structures and their chemistry point to a biological origin near a submarine hydrothermal vent, the team reports online today in Nature. That would make them among the oldest signs of life on Earth--and, depending on the actual age of the rocks, possibly the oldest.

That doesn't necessarily mean that life originated in deep waters rather than in shallow seas, Papineau says. "It's not necessarily mutually exclusive--if we are ready to accept the fact that life diversified very early." Both the iron-oxidizing bacteria and the photosynthetic cyanobacteria that build stromatolite mats could have evolved from an earlier ancestor, he says.

[Continues . . .]

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So no one here has watched Horowitz's documentary?  If you haven't watched it, how do you know it's propaganda?

From JonF's link.

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Two Swedish police officers were interviewed in the film. Anders Göranzon and Jacob Ekström answered questions about how weapons are becoming more accessible. Horowitz also asked the officers about how crime has spread through cities. But the police officers now say that their answers were taken out of context, and are very critical of how their comments were portrayed on Fox News "Tucker Carlson Tonight". "I don't understand why we are a part of the segment. The interview was about something completely different to what Fox News and Horowitz were talking about", says Anders Göranzon.

Horowitz's assertions about Sweden are known to be dishonest. See "The Jewish Right-Wing Filmmaker Behind Trump's Much-Mocked Sweden 'Terror' Lie".

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Among other crackpot and Islamophobic causes, Horowitz has taken to slamming Sweden for supposedly coddling Islamic terrorists.

Horowitz spoke in the Fox interview about an attack "not long ago" and derided Sweden for allowing a wave of immigrant-fueled crimes, including a jump in the rape rate.

The attack actually took place in 2010, not anytime recently, and long before the war in Syria sent refugees flooding into Europe. His claim about rising crime is actually contradicted by Swedish statistics -- its rape rate rose only after a reclassification of crime descriptions.

. . . And "Trump's invention of a Swedish terrorist attack was funny. But it likely comes from a dark place."

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[T]his "rape epidemic" is as fake as the Bowling Green massacre.

Canadian reporter Doug Saunders rigorously investigated the narrative, and concluded that it "falls apart as soon as you speak to anyone knowledgeable in Sweden." Official Swedish statistics do indeed show a high rate of rape, but that's because Swedish law has an extremely expansive definition of what qualifies as rape under the law. Sweden has a higher official rape rate, in short, because its police are better able to investigate and prosecute sexual violence.

"What we're hearing is a very, very extreme exaggeration based on a few isolated events, and the claim that it's related to immigration is more or less not true at all," Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm University, told Saunders.
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Interesting but doesn't really cover the time period of interest.  Do you read Swedish? If so, maybe you can get some useful information out of http://www.bra.se/bra/nytt-fran-bra/arkiv/nyheter/2017-01-12-anmalda-brott-2016---preliminar-statistik.html?

I'm not going to spend the time to try to watch the Horowitz propaganda, but the graphic in Dave Hawkins' link is from 2012.
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Here's the sensible explanation for Trump's Sweden comment ... https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/19/ami-horowitz-documentary-sweden-is-now-europes-official-rape-capital/

Horowitz is a mendacious hack.

"How Anti-Immigration Activists Misuse Rape Statistics"

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Red is any kind of sex crime, blue is robberies, purple is any kind of physical assault, yellow is fraud, dark-cyan is any form of harassment and green is any kind of illegal threats.

The major result from this graph is that not a lot happens over time. Since 2005, most categories are roughly the same or slightly decreasing, although there is some random fluctuation from year to year.

[. . .]

Anti-immigration activists often point out that the observed number of rape reports per year is increasing. This is true, but does not demonstrate that the actual incidence of rape is increasing. As we saw above, it is more or less constant over time (with some year-to-year fluctuations).
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Politics and Current Events / Re: KKK leader found dead
wife shot him.

She apparently aided and abetted, while her son did the deed.
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Politics and Current Events / Re: Trumpocalypse
here's what i want to know: who wrote his speech? you can say what you want about it, but it was more coherent and well-thought-out than anything else this dude's ever said when he has to talk for more than 2 minutes.

According to this piece from last month, it was Stephen Miller, who used to work for Sessions.
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Why May 17? Why not today?

Good question. I tried to find an answer, but all search engines were full of Assange using the fact that she isn't being released immediately to back away from his "grant clemency and I'll agree to extradition" tweet.
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In Detroit, the rubber has hit the road, and school children have paid the price.

"Betsy DeVos Wants to Use America's Schools to Build 'God's Kingdom'" | Mother Jones

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In Michigan, Detroit has been at the heart of the charter push, which began in the early '90s. In 1996, former Metro Times reporter Curt Guyette showed how the Prince Foundation, as well as the foundation run by Dick DeVos' parents, funded a carefully orchestrated campaign to label Detroit's public schools as failing--and pushed for charters and "universal educational choice" as a better alternative. While Betsy DeVos has not called for an end to traditional public schools, she has written about the need to "retire" and "replace" Detroit's public school system and pressed for aggressively expanding charter schools and vouchers. (In 2000, Dick and Betsy DeVos helped underwrite a ballot initiative to expand the use of vouchers in Michigan and lost badly.)

Detroit's schools--where 84 percent of students are black and 80 percent are poor--have been in steady decline since charter schools started proliferating: Public school test scores in math and reading on the National Assessment of Educational Progress have remained the worst among large cities since 2009. In June, the New York Times published a scathing investigation of the city's school district, which has the second-biggest share of students in charters in America. (New Orleans is No. 1.) Reporter Kate Zernike concluded that lax oversight by the state and insufficiently regulated growth--including too many agencies that are allowed to open new charter schools--contributed to a system with "lots of choice, with no good choice."